seeing a deer from the road and stalking it
08-10-2008 | 09:19 AM
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RE: shooting from the road when you were driving.
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
In PA it's illegal to step out of a vehicle and shoot at any animal, however, it is totally legal to drive up the road, get out and walk back the road and shoot from the road. If you get out of a vehicle, you have to walk off the road XX yards, but if your parked 100 yards down the road I honestly don't think it's illegal to shoot from said road.
Every rifle season guys line up on the roads to watch as drivers push woods.
That being said,
I really don't see a problem if you put a good stalk on a deer after seeing them from the vehicle. Tim's question, would you walk back and off the road into the woods and take a shot? I consider walking into bow range of any animal is a feat regardless if you caught a glimpse of said animal from a vehicle. Seeing them from the truck, no not hunting but stalking to bow range of a whitetail, hunting no matter how you spotted them. IMO
Never have done that tho, would seriously consider it.
In PA it's illegal to step out of a vehicle and shoot at any animal, however, it is totally legal to drive up the road, get out and walk back the road and shoot from the road. If you get out of a vehicle, you have to walk off the road XX yards, but if your parked 100 yards down the road I honestly don't think it's illegal to shoot from said road.
Every rifle season guys line up on the roads to watch as drivers push woods.
That being said,
I really don't see a problem if you put a good stalk on a deer after seeing them from the vehicle. Tim's question, would you walk back and off the road into the woods and take a shot? I consider walking into bow range of any animal is a feat regardless if you caught a glimpse of said animal from a vehicle. Seeing them from the truck, no not hunting but stalking to bow range of a whitetail, hunting no matter how you spotted them. IMO
Never have done that tho, would seriously consider it.
08-10-2008 | 09:42 AM
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RE: seeing a deer from the road and stalking it
Well you've edited your post to the point it's not even the same post I read last night. Yes, I'd consider stalking and shooting. Last night you were driving by a field and shooting him or driving into the field and shooting. Entirely different senerio than you began with. Last night, as the thread title states "Shooting From the Road when you're driving" points out the big shift. LOL I know, you changed it' title, put it didn't change the heading on the last couple pages. The original still pop up. LOL
08-10-2008 | 09:49 AM
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RE: shooting from the road when you were driving.
i got the idea because i saw a show where they did this in the west like new mexico or something
ORIGINAL: demoIL
Everyone has there own opinion of "hunting" If it's legal and your ok with it then do it.. Some don't think it's challenging to just go sit in a tree stand and wait for a deer to walk by.. In some regions spot and stalk starts this way. You use a boat or a vehicle to drive and glass until you see an animal. Then you put on a stalk and if your lucky and good you get a shot.. I've seen it done in the mountains and I've seen it done in Africa.. On the other part that some have brought up, if you stopped in the road I would never even consider shooting from the road or a vehicle but I don't think that's what your saying... soooo...
Everyone has there own opinion of "hunting" If it's legal and your ok with it then do it.. Some don't think it's challenging to just go sit in a tree stand and wait for a deer to walk by.. In some regions spot and stalk starts this way. You use a boat or a vehicle to drive and glass until you see an animal. Then you put on a stalk and if your lucky and good you get a shot.. I've seen it done in the mountains and I've seen it done in Africa.. On the other part that some have brought up, if you stopped in the road I would never even consider shooting from the road or a vehicle but I don't think that's what your saying... soooo...
08-10-2008 | 09:54 AM
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RE: seeing a deer from the road and stalking it
i in no way changed anything in the post i never said i would drive into a field or shoot from the road or vechial.
The first line in the post said that.
The orginal post is still the same i changed the title because it was recommend to me so it was less confusing
Yes the title said shooting from the road but the post said something differnt thats why i changed the title.
Whati mean by the post is seeing a deer while driving andstopping up the road and stalking into the woods.
The first line in the post said that.
The orginal post is still the same i changed the title because it was recommend to me so it was less confusing
Yes the title said shooting from the road but the post said something differnt thats why i changed the title.
Whati mean by the post is seeing a deer while driving andstopping up the road and stalking into the woods.
ORIGINAL: davidmil
Well you've edited your post to the point it's not even the same post I read last night. Yes, I'd consider stalking and shooting. Last night you were driving by a field and shooting him or driving into the field and shooting. Entirely different senerio than you began with. Last night, as the thread title states "Shooting From the Road when you're driving" points out the big shift. LOL I know, you changed it' title, put it didn't change the heading on the last couple pages. The original still pop up. LOL
Well you've edited your post to the point it's not even the same post I read last night. Yes, I'd consider stalking and shooting. Last night you were driving by a field and shooting him or driving into the field and shooting. Entirely different senerio than you began with. Last night, as the thread title states "Shooting From the Road when you're driving" points out the big shift. LOL I know, you changed it' title, put it didn't change the heading on the last couple pages. The original still pop up. LOL
08-10-2008 | 10:01 AM
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RE: seeing a deer from the road and stalking it
whats the point in the pic david.
Here is the post
OK first i know it is beyond illegal and unethical to shoot from a vehicle or even when you on a road. not my question.
i say right here i i do not mean to shoot from a vehicle or the road
I have been driving either looking for a pull off or field or area that looks like it might be a spot to scout.
Every time i go scouting i see at least one or two field that have good size deer in them.
If you where driving came up on a bean fieldsaw deer on public property would you drive up alittle park get out. walk make to field.
Then walk in the woods say 20 feet and take a shot if the deer were still there. I think here you can not hunt with in 10 feet of a road so i would move atleast 20 if i could
It says right here i mean to walkback into the woods from the road not shoot from the road or a vehicle.
i know this might be hard with a bow. but what if you had a rifle or a
muzzle loader.
Give you answer for bow ml and a shotgun or rifle. if it differs.
I did not change the title to deceive anyone or change i point on the subject.
I changed it because a member pointed out it made the post confusing
Here is the post
OK first i know it is beyond illegal and unethical to shoot from a vehicle or even when you on a road. not my question.
i say right here i i do not mean to shoot from a vehicle or the road
I have been driving either looking for a pull off or field or area that looks like it might be a spot to scout.
Every time i go scouting i see at least one or two field that have good size deer in them.
If you where driving came up on a bean fieldsaw deer on public property would you drive up alittle park get out. walk make to field.
Then walk in the woods say 20 feet and take a shot if the deer were still there. I think here you can not hunt with in 10 feet of a road so i would move atleast 20 if i could
It says right here i mean to walkback into the woods from the road not shoot from the road or a vehicle.
i know this might be hard with a bow. but what if you had a rifle or a
muzzle loader.
Give you answer for bow ml and a shotgun or rifle. if it differs.
I did not change the title to deceive anyone or change i point on the subject.
I changed it because a member pointed out it made the post confusing
ORIGINAL: TJF
He isn't talking about shooting them out of a vehicle or road hunting as we know it. I detest that and agree it is very dangerous and stupid. I've had to hit dirt a few times from carelessroad hunting slobs shooting at running deer.
Sadly it isn't illegal here and used by quite a few. [:'(]
Just not sure how you get road hunting out of seeing a deer, drivng past itand getting out to stalk it. You still have to be sure of your target and what's beyond. We are talking two different things.
Tim
edit... the tittle of the post does sound like road hunting... maybe that is were the confusion is.[&:] Iwas refering to his post. I still agree with you on the road huntingthough.
ORIGINAL: davidmil
Besides being illegal in just about every state I know of.... the biggest thing is... it's just down right dangerous. You have no idea who's around, who's sitting in the hedgerow behind the animal or anything. I had one of the scariest incidents involving just such a senerio many years ago. I had returned from 2 tours of dodging bullets in Vietnam. I left the service and was living in Georgia. I had this woods that was great and secluded except for a dirt road down one side of it. One particular morning I was hunting about 125 yards off the road in a pine head. It was a big open set of pines with a thicket down one side and at the back. I was sitting near the intersection of the two thickets in the back corner. I was glassing and saw some does come across the road walking in my direction. I wasn't looking for doe meat that day so just relaxed and watched the parade of 8 does. They were maybe 50 yards out in front of me when this pickup came up the road. It was all up hill from the road to this little knob I was on. Big Bubba and Yahoo # 2 see the deer. Their first shot out the drivers window missed it's mark and took the bark off a tree about 3 yards from me at head height. My instant reaction was a round over the pickup which got it moving real fast. They could have just as well hit me as the tree. They didn't see me or know I was there. I had walked in from a logging road 200 yards away. They weren't thinking about someone being around. All they were trying to do was break the law and poach a deer. No deer is worth disregarding the old rule of "being sure of your target and what's beyond". If they had wounded or killed me they probably wouldn't have known it and would have driven off.
Besides being illegal in just about every state I know of.... the biggest thing is... it's just down right dangerous. You have no idea who's around, who's sitting in the hedgerow behind the animal or anything. I had one of the scariest incidents involving just such a senerio many years ago. I had returned from 2 tours of dodging bullets in Vietnam. I left the service and was living in Georgia. I had this woods that was great and secluded except for a dirt road down one side of it. One particular morning I was hunting about 125 yards off the road in a pine head. It was a big open set of pines with a thicket down one side and at the back. I was sitting near the intersection of the two thickets in the back corner. I was glassing and saw some does come across the road walking in my direction. I wasn't looking for doe meat that day so just relaxed and watched the parade of 8 does. They were maybe 50 yards out in front of me when this pickup came up the road. It was all up hill from the road to this little knob I was on. Big Bubba and Yahoo # 2 see the deer. Their first shot out the drivers window missed it's mark and took the bark off a tree about 3 yards from me at head height. My instant reaction was a round over the pickup which got it moving real fast. They could have just as well hit me as the tree. They didn't see me or know I was there. I had walked in from a logging road 200 yards away. They weren't thinking about someone being around. All they were trying to do was break the law and poach a deer. No deer is worth disregarding the old rule of "being sure of your target and what's beyond". If they had wounded or killed me they probably wouldn't have known it and would have driven off.
He isn't talking about shooting them out of a vehicle or road hunting as we know it. I detest that and agree it is very dangerous and stupid. I've had to hit dirt a few times from carelessroad hunting slobs shooting at running deer.
Sadly it isn't illegal here and used by quite a few. [:'(]
Just not sure how you get road hunting out of seeing a deer, drivng past itand getting out to stalk it. You still have to be sure of your target and what's beyond. We are talking two different things.
Tim
edit... the tittle of the post does sound like road hunting... maybe that is were the confusion is.[&:] Iwas refering to his post. I still agree with you on the road huntingthough.
ORIGINAL: davidmil
Well you've edited your post to the point it's not even the same post I read last night. Yes, I'd consider stalking and shooting. Last night you were driving by a field and shooting him or driving into the field and shooting. Entirely different senerio than you began with. Last night, as the thread title states "Shooting From the Road when you're driving" points out the big shift. LOL I know, you changed it' title, put it didn't change the heading on the last couple pages. The original still pop up. LOL
Well you've edited your post to the point it's not even the same post I read last night. Yes, I'd consider stalking and shooting. Last night you were driving by a field and shooting him or driving into the field and shooting. Entirely different senerio than you began with. Last night, as the thread title states "Shooting From the Road when you're driving" points out the big shift. LOL I know, you changed it' title, put it didn't change the heading on the last couple pages. The original still pop up. LOL
08-10-2008 | 10:32 AM
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RE: shooting from the road when you were driving.
ORIGINAL: TJF
If I were driving to one of my spots to hunt and happened to come across a deer out feeding... I thought I might be able to stalk it... you are darn right I would try and have. How is this not hunting or unethical??
Do I drive around just looking for deer to stalk?? Nope... although it still would be hunting if I did and ethical as long as I followed all laws. It's a " hunting "oppertunity nothing more.
I probably put more time into scouting then 95% of the people on HNI. I know what a great feeling it is to scout, hunt and kill a specific buck. If youwant to passup an unplannedoppertunity... what ever floats your boat.I won't if I think I have a chance, my mood or the deer in question.
Tim
If I were driving to one of my spots to hunt and happened to come across a deer out feeding... I thought I might be able to stalk it... you are darn right I would try and have. How is this not hunting or unethical??
Do I drive around just looking for deer to stalk?? Nope... although it still would be hunting if I did and ethical as long as I followed all laws. It's a " hunting "oppertunity nothing more.I probably put more time into scouting then 95% of the people on HNI. I know what a great feeling it is to scout, hunt and kill a specific buck. If youwant to passup an unplannedoppertunity... what ever floats your boat.I won't if I think I have a chance, my mood or the deer in question.
Tim
08-10-2008 | 11:15 AM
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RE: shooting from the road when you were driving.
thats the idea
i had not thought about stalking untill i thought of this i am a big guy and did nto think i could.
Like you said i would not drive around till i found some deer. my main spot i pass one field walk through another.
The second spot i plan to hunt i pass three fields one corn one clover and walk through a bean field to get to my spot.
Around he you do not drive through the fish and wildlife area with passing a field or two. they have alot of clover/sorgum field here for the deer
i had not thought about stalking untill i thought of this i am a big guy and did nto think i could.
Like you said i would not drive around till i found some deer. my main spot i pass one field walk through another.
The second spot i plan to hunt i pass three fields one corn one clover and walk through a bean field to get to my spot.
Around he you do not drive through the fish and wildlife area with passing a field or two. they have alot of clover/sorgum field here for the deer
ORIGINAL: RuttNutt
+1
ORIGINAL: TJF
If I were driving to one of my spots to hunt and happened to come across a deer out feeding... I thought I might be able to stalk it... you are darn right I would try and have. How is this not hunting or unethical?? Do I drive around just looking for deer to stalk?? Nope... although it still would be hunting if I did and ethical as long as I followed all laws. It's a " hunting "oppertunity nothing more.
I probably put more time into scouting then 95% of the people on HNI. I know what a great feeling it is to scout, hunt and kill a specific buck. If youwant to passup an unplannedoppertunity... what ever floats your boat.I won't if I think I have a chance, my mood or the deer in question.
Tim
If I were driving to one of my spots to hunt and happened to come across a deer out feeding... I thought I might be able to stalk it... you are darn right I would try and have. How is this not hunting or unethical??
Do I drive around just looking for deer to stalk?? Nope... although it still would be hunting if I did and ethical as long as I followed all laws. It's a " hunting "oppertunity nothing more.I probably put more time into scouting then 95% of the people on HNI. I know what a great feeling it is to scout, hunt and kill a specific buck. If youwant to passup an unplannedoppertunity... what ever floats your boat.I won't if I think I have a chance, my mood or the deer in question.
Tim
08-10-2008 | 12:25 PM
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RE: shooting from the road when you were driving.
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No, i wouldnt
Example: During turkey season me and my brother were in the yards with our guns getting ready to go into the woods and a HUGE gobbler runs accross the road and into the yard with us......neither of us thought about shooting, no reward in that.
No, i wouldnt
Example: During turkey season me and my brother were in the yards with our guns getting ready to go into the woods and a HUGE gobbler runs accross the road and into the yard with us......neither of us thought about shooting, no reward in that.
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08-10-2008 | 02:25 PM
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RE: shooting from the road when you were driving.
hey in ky or nc that might have been true.
In both ky and nc i knew many people that had turkeys chickens and i knew a guy that had a farm.
said everyday the wild turkeys would come into the farm and hang out with his turkeys.
In both ky and nc i knew many people that had turkeys chickens and i knew a guy that had a farm.
said everyday the wild turkeys would come into the farm and hang out with his turkeys.
ORIGINAL: superstrutter
I agree, no reward in shooting your neighbors pet turkey.
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No, i wouldnt
Example: During turkey season me and my brother were in the yards with our guns getting ready to go into the woods and a HUGE gobbler runs accross the road and into the yard with us......neither of us thought about shooting, no reward in that.
No, i wouldnt
Example: During turkey season me and my brother were in the yards with our guns getting ready to go into the woods and a HUGE gobbler runs accross the road and into the yard with us......neither of us thought about shooting, no reward in that.
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08-11-2008 | 09:42 AM
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RE: shooting from the road when you were driving.
ORIGINAL: TJF
If I were driving to one of my spots to hunt and happened to come across a deer out feeding... I thought I might be able to stalk it... you are darn right I would try and have. How is this not hunting or unethical?? Do I drive around just looking for deer to stalk?? Nope... although it still would be hunting if I did and ethical as long as I followed all laws. It's a " hunting "oppertunity nothing more.
I probably put more time into scouting then 95% of the people on HNI. I know what a great feeling it is to scout, hunt and kill a specific buck. If youwant to passup an unplannedoppertunity... what ever floats your boat.I won't if I think I have a chance, my mood or the deer in question.
Tim
If I were driving to one of my spots to hunt and happened to come across a deer out feeding... I thought I might be able to stalk it... you are darn right I would try and have. How is this not hunting or unethical??
Do I drive around just looking for deer to stalk?? Nope... although it still would be hunting if I did and ethical as long as I followed all laws. It's a " hunting "oppertunity nothing more.I probably put more time into scouting then 95% of the people on HNI. I know what a great feeling it is to scout, hunt and kill a specific buck. If youwant to passup an unplannedoppertunity... what ever floats your boat.I won't if I think I have a chance, my mood or the deer in question.
Tim
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That is why I was a little confused by peoples answers. I think people interpreted it wrong. I hunta few spots within view of the road. If I was going out hunting, pulled into my parking area and saw abuck in one ofthe fields I had been preparing all year, You better believe I am putting a stalk on. Granted it will be a few hundred yards, but I put time intomaking that area deer ready. I wasn't"RoadHunting" I was going to my spot. What am I supose to do, scare off the deer, get in my stand and hope it comes back to make it ethical? If you are truly going to that spot to hunt and would have been out in that area deer or no deer, I find nothing wrong with it. If you put on some sort of stalk or used your knowledge of deer and deer hunting to move into a position that made you make an ethicalshot that wasn't something any road hunter could take, then I say go ahead. A Stalk to me though isn't going 100 ft up the road, parking the truck and walking back down to where you saw the deer, go 15 ft. off the road and attempting the shot. If an effort was put in and you had the posibility to get busted by the deer, then I find nothing wrong with it.