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lol actuly they do bigcamo.com has one to fit me.
for 299. for the pants and jacket

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screw that i found out last year just what wearing blue jeans can do for you
i had a huge doe 70s out right infront of me bust me stomped her foot and took off

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Ahh yes,the old "Pimp the Hunter" technique. Yes they do this every day of the week. Does anyone make a living without selling out to the masses anymore?

Disclaimer: I will be wearing Scent Lok Baselayers this fall. I like cheap base layers.


LT

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I would choose light weight camo. Hopefully the other source would be Ultimate Camo.:)
The carbon is inside the scent lok suite. They don't want you to wash it very often. What happens to all the other odors that adhere to the outter layer of the garment??
I wash my close before every hunt every time. And shower. I found this is the absolute best scnet control I can obtaine. Chris

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hey for the right cash i would wear it love it and say it was the greatest thing made.

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I said that anticipating the response. They are exactly the same in weight and every other aspect, including camo pattern..

One has SL....one does not. Which one do you choose?

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I'm staying away from the carbon stuff just because it seems to twist and bind in the crotch area a little to much for my liking.

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kind of an impossible scenario...if you take two identical garments but add a carbon layer to one, that one will be hotter, heavier, not as breathable.

Honestly, i guess Id flip a coin if your scenario happened. if they are the same weight, breathability, temp....then they will work the same for you IMO. If they are identical in every aspect except the SL technology, then they are identical. I guess I am one of those guys who honestly thinks it doesnt help, not even 1%.


two way street here as well though. The people defending it want to only cite the religious wearers of the suits who go through 100 steps of scent control anyway, regardless of the type of clothing they are wearing....IMO These same scent control freaks would be just as well off using their routine on regular fabrics.

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The difference, TEmbry is....(as far as how the board goes with these threads)......I've NEVER, EVER heard a SL wearer start a thread .....telling non SL wearers they're dumbasses for not wearing the garments.

We see it the other way all the time.

And why you wouldn't aswer my question.....is ..it's pretty obvious to everyone.

It's all about the money.;)

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I wear what I consider to be the best camo made, I won't wear anything else. Gray Wolf is a sponsor of WKP, and I'm very good friends with Jeff the owner. He and his business partner actually came down and hunted Iowa with us this past season.

When I started WKP, I asked Jeff to sponsor us because I won't wear anything else. I told him that if he wasn't interested in sponsoring WKP, I would just not have a clothing sponsor. Because Jeff believes in what we're doing, he jumped on board. Because Jeff is a small manufacturer that produces everything here in Wisconsin, he isn't in a position to pay any major sponsorship fee, or provide my entire crew with free gear. I didn't care because it truely is the best stuff I've ever hunted with.

Predator Camo - same situation, not getting anything, but believe in the pattern. Gray Wolf's Intrusion Treeline is another killer pattern!

Vital Gear - Wrote the owner with the same message, won't use any other sight, and he also stepped up to sponsor us.

I didn't start WKP to make a ton of money through sponsorship. I was actually anti-sponsor starting out because I was so sick of watching infomercials.

I'm committed to keeping our stories real without doingblatent product plugs, which in the long-run means I will make less money. I'm willing to make less money doing what I LOVE to do, and make my living doing what I'm good at - which is the product design / engineering end of things. Just being able to hunt everyday is worth everything to me! I don't think I care about being a millionair nearly as much!

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That answers a few questions I had in the back of my head;)

I wonder if you could get Jeff (GWW) to post up his thought son the Scent Lok company. I'd love to hear his opinion of them. Ditto the folks at Predator.

I don't think we're going to see that, though....for the reasons I eluded to, earlier.

Thanks for clearing that up.;)

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even if i did not want it i would take it and ebay it. :D:D

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Great point, and one I agree with. You're only supposed to wash the suit a couple times at mostduring the hunting season. How does throwing it in a dryer everyday clear up the oders on the outer side, or inner side not absorbed by the carbon? After wearing mine two days in a row in 70+ weather, it didn't smell Irish Spring clean, I can tell you that. Secondly, I like to spray myself lightly with acorn scent. A no-no with Scent Loc.

No, I don't. I don't think it helps anymore than any other piece of hunting clothing you may wear. So, supposedly, that makes me as dishonest as you are stupid :D! You know they're still using dogs in experimentation to smell cancer cells in human patients urine and breath. I can't even smell my own farts anymore.

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LOL....that's OK, Valor. I know I'm not stupid;)

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I know that I am going back to the first and secondpage here but I have been on the road for 15 hours today so I missed all of this. ;)

Wealways hear the "but the dogs are trained" argument in these carbon suit threads.

If we aren't training these deer to fear human scent every single day of hunting season, especially on high pressure public land, we are only fooling ourselves. If the deer aren't trained to fear human scent then why do carbon suits exist in the first place?

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We're not intentionally training them to avoid human scent (deer). We're also not training them to SEEK OUT the faintest of human scent.

ALL we're trying to do is mask it to the point that they think we're further away than we actually are (by playing the wind, using SL products...if you're so inclined....and by practicing a solid scent control regimen).

We're NOT gonna fool 'em 100%. We're trying to make them think we're not an immediate threat.

I don't even think this (these type)study is remotely applicable.

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Tell that to the guy who is trying to fool a bloodhound and escape prison rape.[:-]Would he rather the bloodhound not smell him at all or not smell him as strongly?

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A deer 1,000 times better than a human?

C'mon.. you don't seriously believe that do you?

Did you get that from the IMB website. I once read that garbage there too. Or perhaps your buddy told you that?

The donkey does not have a better sense of smell than the wolf.

The comparison from bloodhound to deer is NOT valid.

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Yep. I sure do. It's a SCIENTIFIC fact, not mine, that a dog has better sense of smell than a human, a deer better than a dog, and a bear better than a deer. Our noses and brains are built accordingly. You dispute that? Really? Polarbearscan smell dead seals and whales hundresd of yards away, underinches of ice.You'll doubt an animals sense of smell, to justify your belief in one of the biggest hunting gimmicks of all time. You know, maybe I'll start selling magic Scent Loc blankets. You throw it over you and not only can the deer not smell you, they won't be able to see you! Kind of like Frodo's cloak in Lord of the Rings. I'm sure you would practice good scent control even without Scent Loc, so I'm thinking your success is based more on yout talent and skill as a hunter, than a garmet.

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I think we all know he's not disputing the above. I think (as I would) he's disputing the degree of "better". 1,000 times better?

That'll make you say...."Oh.....nevermind" RE: the rest of your......post.;)

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Dogs, and bears, are intellegent creatures. Deer are not. Dogs, and bears, are trainable, and can be studied. Their sense of smell can be tested in the real world because of their intellegence and trainability. Deer cannot. They are prey. Can't get them to sniffexplosives in siutcases, can't get them to smell rotting meat in a vacuum packed bag in a cooler. You can with dogs and bears. Deer have more olfactory nerves/receptors in their nasel cavities than dogs, less than bears. A larger portion of a deers brain is devoted to the olfactory lobe than a dogs, less than a bears. Therefore, they are somewhere in between, hence the guesstamite by reasearch. Walks like a duck, swims like a duck, looks likek a duck, quacks like a duck. It's probably a duck.

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Hence the dispute of the "guesstimate" and nothing else.