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pa_yote_hunter 08-04-2008 04:00 PM

RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
I am from SE PA and know what they can do. A farm i hunt in one of the areas they where hired to come take care of a deer problem really got hit hard. I do not like it one bit. I say let bow hunters go in and do what we do best....maybe have a drawings for managed hunts on these lands......anything but hired killers

silentassassin 08-04-2008 04:02 PM

RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
I don't know anything about the organization other than they seem to have marketed themselves pretty well and pretty professionally IMO which I am sure goes along way towards opening doors for them to hunt on. Pretty innovative way to obtain prime time hunting properties if you ask me.

Rob/PA Bowyer 08-04-2008 04:03 PM

RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 

ORIGINAL: DougE

These guys have to hunt the same seasons and bag limits as every one else.In many cases,it's extremely hard to get access to more urbanized areas.they do seem a big conceited but I have no problems with what they're doing.
Exactly, I feel many here are looking at this all wrong. It looks like nothing more than an extreme way to try to get permission to hunt otherwise unhuntable urban areas.

They still have to follow all game laws.

pa_yote_hunter 08-04-2008 04:06 PM

RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
well....i do not think i made it clear in my first post. I do not know if it was the same group that came to my area. However the group that did come to my area used night vision and baited the crap out the area. They where only supposed to take does, but rumor has it that they took more than does

gamespooker 08-04-2008 04:09 PM

RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
I don't see why this is even an issue. Walk a day in a farmers shoes and then post about it. They can't just let anyone come onto their land and kill deer because of liability reasons. These guys found a way to make money doing what they love. I mean let's be honest how many of you would let any old local yokel come kill deer on your farm?

PABuckbuster12 08-04-2008 07:23 PM

RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 

ORIGINAL: gamespooker

I don't see why this is even an issue. Walk a day in a farmers shoes and then post about it. They can't just let anyone come onto their land and kill deer because of liability reasons. These guys found a way to make money doing what they love. I mean let's be honest how many of you would let any old local yokel come kill deer on your farm?
Funny I know a dozen farmers, and they all let people hunt on their lands. Hence why they make them sign the waivers and give permission slips. I'd let any local hunt the land before I pay some wanna be rambo come hunt them at night and bait them and basically exterminate them. Heres a ? I wonder if the game commission has acounted for the numbers these douschbags are taking. A farmers may have crop damage, but in SE PA he has a line of dedicated hunters, mostly bow hunters, that are safe, understanding, determined, and cooperative waiting at their front door for permission to hunt these deer ethically. This is bullcrap what these people are pulling. If they "love" deer hunting. Do it the right way! Scout, get permission, Scout, put your time in the woods, prepare, etc. Dont feed ol miss granny a line of crap saying her poor lil todo is going to catch lime disease so she should pay these guys to shoot off her deer. Anyone who tries to tell me these guys are in the same class of hunters as the rest of us should re evaluate what kind of hunter they are.

Downsouth13 08-04-2008 07:31 PM

RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
Only in America!!

GMMAT 08-05-2008 04:29 AM

RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
Wow.....a LOT of conjecture in here.....


These guys have to hunt the same seasons and bag limits as every one else.
Ummmm.....NO they don't. trust me.;)


They still have to follow all game laws.
True....in so much as the game laws make room for depradation permits. Some are "doe only".....some are not. I can tell you with 100% certainty....that they DO NOT have the same "seasons" we have to abide by. For instance.....the airport in Winston-Salem, NC is fenced in, completely. Hundreds of acres of woods and fields.....ALL fenced.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why deer and planes landing and taking offdon't mix with an abundance of deer;). So......the group I told you about, yesterday, approached the owners of the airport about their "problem". They secured a depradation/nuisance permit (one of the services groups like this offer.....and they're GOOD at getting them) and now they hunt there.....as far as I know.....ANY TIME THEY WANT TO.

I know for a fact they hunt there well into the spring.

If your goal is population control and "exermination".....what difference would mating seasons, bag limits, etc.... make? Your goal is 100% population control. The health of the herd is not even an afterthought.

The one thing these guys (here) have on their side is......they offer this "service" from the standpoint of bow hunting. It also doesn't make sense to allow rifles/ML's in an area planes are.

They have a niche' that they're filling.....and like I said.....they're good at what they do (in regards to securing lands to extend their seasons). They're also very secretive (wouldn't you be?) about what's being taken off these properties.....but I wouldn't be surprised in the LEAST to find out they've killed some slammers while performing their "services".;)

Rob/PA Bowyer 08-05-2008 05:57 AM

RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Wow.....a LOT of conjecture in here.....


These guys have to hunt the same seasons and bag limits as every one else.
Ummmm.....NO they don't. trust me.;)


They still have to follow all game laws.
True....in so much as the game laws make room for depradation permits. Some are "doe only".....some are not. I can tell you with 100% certainty....that they DO NOT have the same "seasons" we have to abide by. For instance.....the airport in Winston-Salem, NC is fenced in, completely. Hundreds of acres of woods and fields.....ALL fenced.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why deer and planes landing and taking don't mix. So......the group I told you about, yesterday, approached the owners of the airport about their "problem". They secured a depradation/nuisance permit (one of the serices groups like this offer.....and they're GOOD at getting them) and now they hunt there.....as far as I know.....ANY TIME THEY WANT TO.

I know for a fact they hunt there well into the spring.

If your goal is population control and "exermination".....what difference would mating seasons, bag limits, etc.... make? Your goal is 100% population control. The health of the herd is not even an afterthought.

The one thing these guys (here) have on their side is......they offer this "service" from the standpoint of bow hunting. It also doesn't make sense to allow rifles/ML's in an area planes are.

They have a niche' that they're filling.....and like I said.....they're good at what they do (in regards to securing lands to extend their seasons). They're also very secretive (wouldn't you be?) about what's being tken off these properties.....but I wouldn't be surprised in the LEAST to find out they've killed some slammers while performing their "services".;)


Jeff, I understand and that is true in NC.

That group in question here (given website) is nothing more than a bunch of hunters looking to score more land. No where on this particular website says anything about special perks. It's nothing more than an elaborate way to get some prime usually unhuntable land.

Huntable is the key word, they are hunting, not exterminating.

I understand the hired hand guys etc....these guys are not them. These guys are only asking permission to hunt, not hiring out to take out deer.

If I'm wrong, show me on their website where I am.

tsoc 08-05-2008 05:57 AM

RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
Seems quite well done and clever to me.An inovative way to gain access.


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