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ButchA made a point in another post i thought i would share on and ask everyone opinion.

I do not like the hunting shows that all they do is kill 200 class deer.
I do not like the shows that hunt places that are more or lesshunting farms.

How come so many of us hate hunting farms IE fence operations, But we have no problem watching them on TV.
I think we all need to make a push to get the shows to at least so some public land hunts, public land where they scout it plant the food plots.

Come on guys we need some realistic hunting.

I love the big buck shots but i love the doe shots just as much.

That is one reason i watch spirit of the wild and getting close at least some of the time they hunt like us

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I've yet to see a show where all they do is shoot 200" bucks. In fact, I may have only ever seen 1-2 200" bucks killed on film EVER.

Most guys DO hate watching fenced shows and complain about it on here every other week or so.

If you planted food plots on public land you could be breaking laws in some states.

Yea, um I do believe uncle ted hunts some fenced operations.
And the Lakosky's hunt very highly managed private farms......so I'm not real sure what you are trying to say?

If you watch enough shows, there are some public land type hunts done, typically out west. When someone is making money to produce lots of footage of deer getting shot, they would mostly all go broke trying to make that happen on public land.

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I remember a drury outdoors show once that showed Craig and Deb Olson. the reason i remember it is because they got out of the doctor went onto public land hung stands and then killed a mature buck. all on fully accessable public land.

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If you want to watch public land hunting on tv, then check out Eastman's Hunting TV (on the Outdoor Channel), as most all of their hunting is DIY on public land. They certainly manage to kill some big animals without the need for high fences...good, informative show and pretty entertaining t'boot.

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i have seen more then a few 200s shot i think every season at least once lee and tiff each get one
I did not mean 200 as in a 200 inch deer i just meant most shows go after big racks and thats it.
Yes lee and tiff and uncle Ted hunt deer farms but they also hunt there own land alot.
i see Ted miss alot and i see him take alot of small bucks and does to manage his farm.
I understand they get paid to kill deer but once or twice a season make a challenge out of the hunt.

Also i do understand you can not just plant a food plot on govt. land.
i am lucky my public land does it for me. One of my spots are on a corn field.
Two others food plot with clover and some kind of corn looking stuff.
And just found a spot with both corn and bean fields right by each other

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i will go dvr it now. i have stopped watching a few shows because of it. i hate high fence shows.

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bigtim...you need to understand a little more clearly. Uncle Ted hunts almost all high fence, including his own land. Lee and Tiff hunt private land that they either own or they lease and manage by themselves.

It doesn't take private land to make a realistic show or dvd.I do understand youpoint about wanting to see folks kill some deer that may include smaller bucks, does, or whatever.My company is banking on there beinghunters like you that want to seehunts like that cause that is exactly what wehave to offer. Yeah, we kill somebig deer, but by no means are all of them giants and we most definitely don't hesitate to smack a doeor two or three either.

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Yep, had to chuckle at that one... Uncle Ted is king of the high-fence hunt. ;)

Lee & Tiff's land may be privately ownedbut at least it's fair-chase.

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Hey bigtimm hate to burst your bubble but spirit of the wild is mostly behind high fences

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I did? ;)

I just think it would be really cool to watch a hunting show where they show rub lines, scrapes, terrain, and the best spot to hang a treestand. Then they hunt from that same treestand and take a regular, common, 6 pointer.

No high fences.
No $5,480.95 (each) game preserves.
No guides.
No goofyness in front of the camera or do any camera tricks or massive editing and splicing in different scenes/times of day.

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Pretty sure all the land Ted hunts is high fence.... not 100% but most of the game on his ranch and the ranches he hunts are only allowed if their fenced in?

Ryan.

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very good post.
took the words out of my mouth.

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i guest i should have clarified what i thought.
I have no problem with privet land if i had some to hunt i would not look at the public land.
I have no problem with outfitter or ranch. I could even see someone going to a large fence area say 2000 or more. If someone gave me a hunt for xmas or what ever in a fence operation i would properly go unless it is just a which deer do you want to shoot shop.

i do not have a problem with shows shooting bigger deer.
I just would like to see more of the hunting and not just the shooting.
Like ButchA a few post ago i would like to see more scrap more stuff like people looking for a good stand site.

You know know thta i think about it we need a show that is more of a scouting show.
That shows the asspectes of what we do before we shoot.

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And if ted really hunts high fence mainly it makes me realy think twice about watching his show

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I don't know if thisquite qualifies, but the first part of the year I watched a lot of Mossy Oak's The Obsession Revealed when they were showing their turkey hunting shows. After each hunt they would dissect the hunt a little with "what went right" and "what went wrong". Not every hunt they showed ended in success. There were segments that were called something like "What would you do?"or something similar. I thought the show was entertaining and informative.

They just started their deer hunting shows this month and I've yet to watch one. If they have the same format as the turkey hunting shows, there might be some good ones during the season.

I've watched quite a few shows where the hunt is distilled down into one or two segments, but it you listen to the narration, you get a sense of how hard some of these guys hunt. The last Primos show I watched (for elk) they talked about they had been hunting for2 weeks before Will Primos got his elk with a bow. The last Realtree show I watched, David Blanton was hunting whitetail in Canada (maybe Alberta?) and hunted the whole week without filling his tag, but the next hunter they sent up there had success. I've seen turkey hunting shows with Eddie Salter that show footage from one successful hunt, but there will be off hand comments made like "we've been hunting for the last three days and haven't had any turkeys respond to us" or things like that. One of the best segments I saw happened a few years ago to Michael Waddell. I don't know where he was hunting, but he had anHUGE buck show up and he was hunting with an anterless only tag. All they could do was sit and watch. (I had the same thing happen to me last year on a special area hunt. Doh!) The camera was there filming so obviously they don't only shoot footage of big buck hunts.

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It would be a nice change of pace to see one hunting show based solely on hunting public land. Just to see the strategies they use. Im not just talking about Public land out west where there are thousands upon thousands of acres, im saying all types. Deer hunting Public land outside big cities (Like Chicago for me!) with heavy hunting pressure as well out west and smaller plots under 5,000 acres in the midwest. I wouldn't care if they bagged something everytime, but that would be a challenging hunt where we knew they weren't at some 10,000 acre farm. I hate when I watch these hunting shows and their guide tells them about the "3 180's and 4 170's" they've been seeing. Give me a hunt where they walk into a place with limited scouting and have to use their hunting knowledge and past experience to get a deer.A show like thatwould be impressive and a nice breath of fresh air to the hunting community. There's so many of us that hunt public land that is hunted by many others but there are rarely shows that cover that.

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Man i love watchin ted, but the sad truth is that he is almost entirely high fence with his hunting. But hell hes having fun so who cares, its entertaining.

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I have seen a couple of DIY hunts on public and private lands that were pretty good. I think one was on Driven 24/7 in Iowa and the others were on Lone Wolf's Whitetail Addictions. One other I saw this week was on Huntin Hard where two guys took a nice buck in NJ on public land. There are some good hunts out there andI think the DIY on Public/Private will become more popular.

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again ted hunts almost solely on his owned private ranches. very few hunts are fair chase.one ranch is next to hishome in Jackson, MI.. sunrise acres


i think most of us hunters are in the same boat.... that we would like to be taught more kind of on a step by step hunt. mainly what we are seing is a dream hunt... that these guys do dozens of times in a year... which again makes me less apt to spend my money on buying a video that i know i will not want to watch again because i learned nothing and only got to see my dreams being spent by someone else. why not hunt in reality once in a while... it would be reaffirming to see...

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Yet another example of Antler Inflation. To be a commercial success they have to be knocking down a great big buck, even if it is high fenced or a semi-tame "managed" deer. I'd rather watch curling.[&:]

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Not sure if everyone can get it but look for 'Hunting with Penns Woods'. These guys hunt Western PA (and a few other places in Maryland, WV) but the PA is all DIY public land hunts. Plus they get the kids involved each week.

The one thing I could do with out are all the deer drives, but still a good show.

on your own adventures man, those guys go hard.

Two year old thread man.

Guys you need to go to whitetailsinc.com it is Todds new web show and he is showing all the work and why we hunt where we do.. Also go check out our videos at whiteknuckleproductions.com we are bow only use no guides or outfitters all the land is either leased gotten by knocking on doors or publicland.. Mine and Steves bucks this year for the video came off of stateland in Illinois, two of the hardest bucks we have ever killed.. Walt

I could give a rats butt about Tred Barta, but he does shows on public land. Saw him sling arrows at Elk on public land before. I have not watched a hunting show in over two years, so not sure if he still does it.

Nuge is well known for hunting in cages and on deer farms. Just throwin that out there.

Other than that I think it would be cool to see public land hunts, I like watching the cabelas memories in the field and stuff like that. You'll like team overkill i think they're website is www.teamoverkill.net Anyhow

The reason they don't hunt public land is there is way way way too many variables. I.e. other hunters, scouting issues, its just way more difficult, watching pro hunters on TV is more of a dream world for the most part.

Again all this is just my opinion.

Ryan.

I agree. Uncle Ted is a riot. He doesn't try to hide the high fences. It's entertainment and if I had the money, I just might very well try and establish a similar set-up, in adddition to "fair-chase" hunting. If there is such a thing.

I like watching the hunting shows where they only take 150 plus class bucks on carefully managed farms. I don't do that but I might if I had the opportunity, time and $$$. So its fun for me to watch. Even if I do end up arrowing a mere 100 class buck.

Also, I like uncle Ted's cooking segments. And Jim Zumbo's. Too bad they don't do more of them and other shows don't do much if any of them. Would be nice to focus a little more on what you can do with the meat you get from your hunt!