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T.....This....right after I just told you I wasn't missing a thing. It doesn't "bother" me......but you asked "why"?

I also think you knew how this "might" turn out;).

Also T....I think it's probably gotten MORE tolerant in here over the years. I was told once of a pretty prominent board member who used to post "Get that ****ing gun kill/gun post off the ****ing bowhunting forum" everyt ime he saw a thread involving ANYTHING "gun".

So the tolerance level of such is pretty good in here, I think.

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I imagine that's why it's called the "bowhunting" forum.;)I guess there was public out-cry, so they put the "deer hunting" forum at the top of the forumsjust the other day.:D:D

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Um Tony.........because you are asking if hunting with a bow is different or the same experienceas hunting with a firearm, thus comparing the two.

I felt it was a great opportunity to try and shed some different light...a new perspective if you will on hunting as a whole and my disdain for anything or anyone who tries to separate us as hunters simply because of the "tool" we choose to utilize. Let me answer your question more directly, better yet let me put it to you this way......

If you askyourquestion to a gun hunter only,you will most likely get a favorable response to most types of hunting and the traditions that go along with them. If you ask this question to a bow hunter only you will most likely get a completely different view of your fellow hunters....Makes you wonder huh?

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Lmao, no problem NC!! Very true butno one went out hunting the next day being we knew it was going to be raining all day. We don't hunt in the rain all to often.

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Ithink you'd get about the same results if you ask a man training his retriever.

Say there,what kinda hound yarunnin ?

Or ask a man that is fly fishing.

Say there, what kinda bait ya using?

Or ask a man eating hot wings at " Hooters"

Say there, ya think those things are real?

Have a great weekend, I'm going to blast some woodchucks with my scope sighted, smoking fast, high powered, 264 Winchester magnum.;)

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Works both ways, John.....and your post proves it.

Now I love ya, brother.....but bowhunters get a bad rep with gun hunters, also. We're the "plague" around here.....because we're seen as getting "their" deer before they can legally ge tto them. If I had a dollar for every time I heard a "gun" hunter put down bowhunters for wounding/maiming game.....I'd have enough to buy one of your rookie cards at auction;).

Well...you know what I mean.:D

Have a great weekend.

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Maybe it's just me

I think Preacher is talking about the differnce between the family tradition of gun hunting, and the solitare tradition of a bowhunter. I know before this board I shared my bowhunting with almostnobody;)
Again who knows, I know I love all you guys, execpt Jeff[8D]

My gun hunting, well I sit with gramps with no weapon at all.
See gramps in his old age does not shoot so well, I don't want anything slowing me down as I run down what he just shot:D

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John, I asked if anyone could relate .....

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Its a real shame you didn't get his hair.[:-]

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GMMAT,

One interesting contrast is that on this site you rarely see gun hunters taking shots at bow hunting in general. Most like me are aware of some of the drawbacks (maimed deer) associated with bow hunting, but don't dwell on it because I dont really know that more bow hunters cripple deer than gun hunters. So, i keep my mouth shut. It might be nice to see some folks among the bow hunters extend the same courtesy.

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Nobody said you asked a bad question, T.......

Nothing wrong with baiting, either. Ask a question about that and see if ALL hunters share in their views......or if you have some people passionate about NOT utilizing the practice.

Like I said......this post is kinda like asking people if they love their Ford trucks as well as their Chevy trucks....and expecting everyone to sing Kumbaya and square dance around the two. Ain't happening.

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I LOVE that pic ...... worth 1,000 words!!!!:)

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Some people gave there perspectives Tony and you kept saying there missing out. Its just not in some peoples cards. I could reverse the question and say the same thing and get called an elitist by a few on the bow forum. I wouldn't do that though being everyone's tradition is different.

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Your damn right, all his sons are bald:eek:

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Like I said.....remember where you are.

Go find me a post in the Deer Hunting forum (which EVERYONE knows is where the gun hunters hang out) where gun hunting is talked down upon by a "bowhunter". I'll check back in, Monday on that one.;)

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Sounds like a Tradition? ;) Hows your sons looking?[:-]

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BTW preach

Rob's post shows what some gun hunters want that the bowhunters seem to have. The feeling of just you, woods and the animal.

Rob was not being an Elitest at all, I feel he was just showing the other side of the coin, what some gun only hunters are missing.

screwed

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I've found out a long time ago that some folks are more comfortable with a narrow centralized form of hunting and that's fine. It's quite normal for folks to try and rise to the top of an activity be it hunting, sports or what not and it's easier to attain that by concentrating solely on one aspect. What is disturbing to me though is the attitude that is projected from certain groups of hunters to others simply due to their choice of weapon or style of hunting. It's reminiscent of the Dr. Seuss story about the "Star Bellied Sneetches" In my opinion Bow hunters as a whole are far less likely to allow others to their "frankfurter roasts orpicnics or parties or marshmallow toasts." :eek:

Again this is just my take on it but judging by what I've seen in my area and what I've read right here on this site over the years...I don't think I'm too far off.;)

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I doubt that i would find that GMMAT, and i also doubt that i would hear much trashtalking about bow hunters, even though the gun hunters dominate. Kind of makes my point.

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You got it, Gary

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CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D

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You can bet it does Jeff...And I've seen the nasty side of gun hunters just as you describe. But, overall the number is skewed way more to the bow hunter elitist than gun hunter elitist. Sad but true...but hey I'm doing my best to "shine the light of open mindedness" upon the masses.:D:D

You have a great weekend too bud!

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I don's see trash talking, here, Lanse.

John: I agree wholeheartedly with your last post.

Have a good weekend, all. Peace out.;)

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You might look a little closer at some of the comments here and in other threads where gun hunting is discussed. You may not consider it trashtalking, but it is a hell of a lot more negative than the comments that you will hear about bowhunters by gun hunters elsewhere. I would be happy to be proven wrong in this, but based on the comments by some other folks as well, i think that i am on the right track.

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I'm "outa here" too.....I'm about to take my 325lb fat Italian arse and get in the pool with the family.....WhooooHoooo cannon ball!! Well not quite, I think I'd splash all the water out of it.[&:][&:](not a very big pool;))


Don't fight guys....we're all in this (hunting) together!


later taters......

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Well BigJ, unfortunately some of us are emphasizing "togetherness' a bit more than others.

I'm outta here too.

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I love my hunting period! I love my bows and I love my guns! I hunt the same way no matter the weapon in hand! I've killed deer at 10 yards on a few different occasions with.... yeah a gun! Just because you hunt with a gun dosn't mean you have to shoot at something 200+ yards away! You get out of it what you put in to it, at least I do!


I wonder how guys mindsets would change if they could only Bowhunt hunt for a week or 2 out of the year, kinda like turning the seasons around, longer gun and shorter bow seasons??? I wonder who would pick up a gun and hunt deer then?;) :) It just hard for me to imagine that folks never gun hunted for deer before... To each his own!

I love passing on the Tradition of the November gun season to my son and nephews like my Father and Grandfather did to me and my Brothers! Sure is something very special that I wouldn't miss for the life of me!


Great post PreacherBro!!!!!!! Sure would be kinda cool to share a camp one day brother, gun or bow!

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I would love to, Joe :)

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You better start paying more attention to what some of us say and post for pics on here then. I for one am part of a small great group of guys that get together for 6 to 7 days of straight bow hunting for bears. Camping, tenting, campfires, BSing, cooking over a fire, sucking down cold ones, lots of hunting story's get told from the years past over and over again and to top it off we do some serious bear hunting. This just doesn't happen on our bear hunting trips either being we get a group together usually for a trip to Wisconsin also. We have a blast hunting and at the same time were serious about the animals were hunting.

It really depends on who you hunt with or what type of people you choose to surround yourself with. The group of bow hunters I hunt with are the farthest thing from what's been described by you.

Like I said before we need the gun seasons to control populations. I'll stand up for a gun hunters rights till the day I die whether I would use a gun or not for hunting!!

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LMAO!!

I wouldn't know about that one Jeff!

but then it could depend on the Strip Club and also depend on your Wife![8D]

Dan

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Actually it used to mean alot more to me years ago. Back then we would camp (friends and i ) for the last week of bow season and the first weekend of gun season. It was exciting as you mentioned Tony expecting the unexpected :)But since that we have gotten older, started familys, had kids and got away from the camp scene [&o]My Dad never deer hunted so i missed out there. I still go out with my kids for the gun opener and love watching them getting it done. I have a blastbeing with themeven if im still toting the bow. I kinda got away from hunting with my smoke poll in 2005 even after i killed my biggest ever a 155" er with it. There is nothing wrong with doing something you love doing ;)I just have more liking of the bowhunting. :)

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I still gun hunt and still enjoy it,but I'm not as serious about it as I am bowhunting ,my approach to gun hunting is different than bowhunting and I will sit longer and hunt harder with my bow than with agun,I mainly got into bowhunting to exstend my hunting season but it rapidly turned into a passion and obsession.

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My ass is hurting by the time I start gun hunting from all the bow hunting, but I still love to hunt deer with a rifle. I am one with nature, no bullets wizzing by my head, no orange clad hunters ruining my hunt, complete solitude while I'm going one on one with a buck, and usually hunting alone, not only while bow hunting, but also while rifle hunting. I don't have a camp full of family and friends.I picked up deer hunting, with gun and bow, on my own, so thereis no tradition, but I still love torifle hunt. I love to bow hunt. I love to gun hunt. I love to deer hunt. Let's all get along guys.

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Schultzy,

I refuse to surround myself with those types of hunters either, bow or gun. I don't think you fully understood what I was saying. For example, I am getting to the point where I cringe at the thought of going to one of my local Pro Shops because what I end up listening to from other supposed "hunters" is pure bow hunter elitist crap, it's enough to make you sick.I do my thing, get my range time in and leave. From listening to these jokers you'd swear that the only "real" hunting was done with a bow.[:'(]Pure BS from narrow minded, uneducated, uninformed, unlearned know-it-alls who do nothing but give a black eye to not only bow hunters but all hunters in general.

I see it here as well, hardly a week goes by where someone isn't spouting off about how gun hunters are slobs and bow hunting is the cat's meow because you have to get up close, hold your fire till you see the whites of their eyes and whisper sweet nothings into the deers ear before letting the arrow go.:eek:By making statements like that, done with the explicit intent to put down gun hunting and bolster what obviously is a self esteem that is in dyer need of a boost it only perpetuates to rift between the two styles of hunting further dividing hunters as a whole.....And for what? so someone can sit up on their high horse and proclaim to the world that the way they hunt is the hardest and most challenging and only the most skilled of hunters can do it therefore vicariously elevating themselves into the "super hunter" status.

I don't think we need the gun seasons to control the deer populations, I think we need it sohunterscanget out and enjoy the great past time that is hunting. You make it sound like once the population is controlled by them "mouth breathing cretin gunshooters" us "hunters" can go about our business. I'm pretty sure you didn't mean it that way but go back and re-read your sentence. You've pretty much relegated and lowered gun hunters to "population control specialists"only servingthe purpose of keeping the herd numbers in line....for the real hunters.Again, I don't think you meant it that way but it sure came off like it.

Don't fool yourself Schultzy that's the main reason why this junkverbiage is passed around like candy on Halloween, sofolks can say "look at me, I'm the great bow hunter". Half the guys at the Pro Shop I shoot at,I think only bow hunt for bragging rights and could care less for the real hunting bliss bow hunting offers.

Yes gun hunters are guilty as well for some of the nastiness that spews out like a septic tank overflown but from what I've seen and read over the years it pales in comparison to the elitist "better than thou" attitude coming from the bow hunting camp.

No I don't associate with those typeeither, I hang out with hunters.........

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I don't think about the difference, because frankly I do not care. I just hunt. I am not better, I am not worse. But one thing is for sure, I feel a heck of alot better with a bow in my hand than when I used to gun hunt. I love it.

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Yeah, I agree with that. Lots of clowns these days at the Pro Shops. Had one Superman tell me he could tell where a whitetail was from by the sheds/antlers. Since I've gotthem from Virginia, Michigan, Maine, and Maryland, he soon had his a$$ handed to him. He took a short vacation from the Pro Shop.But,I sure understandthe distaste for gun hunting by some. Had a guy a few years back, trespassing on myBud's property, waiting for the dogs to come through. Another friend and I told him he was trespassing, but since it wasn't our land, he ignored us. Deer pops out, he shoots it, then stands around and watches the dog as it tries to eat into the rear end of the deer, which is still alive.Asked him nicely to put the deer down, get the dog off the animal, and move on with his kill. It got ugly. He didn't get the deer, was prosecuted for trespassing, and the hunt club had one less hunting dog.

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The closest friends I have in the world are all hunters, but to put it in perspective the biggest assclowns I have ever crossed paths with have also been hunters.[:o]

Not just bow huntersor just gun hunters, just plane old slob hunters.And our ranks have more than enough to go around.[:@]

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That is absolutely true bawanajim,and there lies the dilemma.There are some styles of hunting that don't particularly appeal to me but I respect those who choose to participate in them.(provided they are legal)
The issue is always with the hunter or criminalas the case may be.There are a low of bowhunters that are idiots and there are a lot of rifle hunters that are idiots.It comes down to the individual.
How many times have you been in a pro shop or a sporting goods department and were sickened by the conversations that were taking place? Either the stupidity or the ego driven horse s--t you hear.I am not at all coming from an elitist perspective I am referring to very basic right and wrong kind of stuff.

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I 100% agree BigJ. I don't put myself in them situations anymore and go to these places. It makes me sick listening to these guys brag about taking there 50+ yard shots and thinking there the "Man" for doing it. There not a "Man" to me, more like a person who needs to get his stuff together and learn how to hunt instead of shoot! Bow hunting from what people use to do is way beyond what people do now, I don't care for it one bit so I don't put myself in that position anymore, you should do the same if you don't want to hear it!

Gun seasons in certain places are better/worse then other places. My neck of the woods most are slobs and could care less about anything. Up where my dad lives in Northern Minnesota its a completely different story. They take pride in there deer hunting up there, I wish more were like that around my place. The gun hunters in my area feel this way also, they don't care to be out in the havoc but they have no choice being they only have a 2 week season for slug hunting. I feel for allot of the people who take there hunting serious but at the same time they have to put up with the idiots of the sport.

Again your way off with me but I'm starting to get use to that in this thread.;) My phone is ringing off the hook during gun season to go out and help the gun hunters that I know and some I don't to help them out in a track job. Many friends of mine tote a shotgun around for deer hunting, most of these guys are quality hunters. I BS with these guys about hunting story's just like the folks who hunt with a bow, actually I talk more with guys who use a gun being bow hunting isn't nearly as popular as it once was. I don't dislike gun hunters one bit, I just can't stand the gun hunters that are "slobs" around my area which there is plenty of them. What I said is true that gun hunting keeps the population in control. Big deal if I said that, its the truth. Yes there's so much more to it then just that but I was stating a very important fact. When my cousins get together for slug season its neat as hell watching them interact with each other on the story's and the BSing, I love it! Ease your sensitivity button down a bit, your ego might be taking a hit otherwise.[8D]

Again quit putting yourself in that position BigJ. You don't need to hear it, the hell with them guys. I've heard it too and I no longer go to these places. My back yard does the trick.

This may be true where you live and or read in a bow hunting forum of some sort but Its the farthest thing from it where I live. I don't care for people like this whether there shooting a gun or bow, It don't go in my book. Its jealousy on both sides when you hear the stupid "I'm better then you" comments coming from both bow and gun hunters. It will never go away BigJ!

By the way BigJ I think some of the best deer hunters I've ever met are gun hunters. Thats the truth!!!



Great post to there Scot and Jim!!

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Worlds apart. I live & breath bowhunting. I don't have much tradition or comraderie in gun hutning but I still go. Typically it's just another day to be out. lately I've been using gun hunting to try different areas and weapons. Sometimes I have to rely on it a little more than I wishI needed to when i have a thin doe harvest in archery season.