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pheasantfanatic 07-17-2008 03:50 PM

Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Ok, here are some better pictures. Fire away!!!!! I won't take offense to constructive criticism....:D





HNI_Christine 07-17-2008 03:53 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Is that part of your 'The Phantom' outfit?

:D

pheasantfanatic 07-17-2008 03:54 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Nope, it is just frickin' hot here today......:D:D:D

txmarshmonkey 07-17-2008 04:08 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Your release looks to bit a bit long or maybe the strap is too loose. I like my trigger finger a little closer to the trigger.

MOTOWNHONKEY 07-17-2008 04:11 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Other than the satin gay shirt the form looks good.

early in 07-17-2008 04:16 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 

ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

Other than the satin gay shirt the form looks good.
That's some funny chit right there!:D:D:D:DLook's good bro.;):D

TN Deer Hunter 07-17-2008 04:18 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 

ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

Other than the satin gay shirt the form looks good.
Glad you said it and not me. [:'(]

Other than that I see nothing really wrong except the release does look to loose or to long

pheasantfanatic 07-17-2008 04:31 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Hey, that is called "Generic UnderArmour".........;) Give me a break!!!!![8D]

whitetailbowhunter 07-17-2008 04:31 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Release looks to long or the strap too loose. Other than that. Looks good!

kwilson16 07-17-2008 05:37 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
I agree that the release could be a little snugger and I just don't know what to say about the spidey man shirt.

mohunter82 07-17-2008 06:27 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
yea the release is sitting way to far forward in your hand. and maybe its just me but it looks like your pulling your elbow to high like your torquing your shoulder or something.
Heck maybe my form is wrong. lol
but if your shoot ok then i wouldn't worry bout it.

bloodcrick 07-17-2008 07:19 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Finnaly, someone that does not have there finger on the trigger when drawn in the house. Some of these guys scare me.. Thank you!! :D

Greg / MO 07-17-2008 07:30 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
I'm in between sets of weightlifting... don't have much time. Someone else will be along later I'm sure to expound...

Grip looks better

Bow shoulder does not look bottomed out

You seem to be making a "Z" with your body aligment... upper torso is leaning back away from the lower torso (from what we can barely see), then your head comes back to align itself over the legs... Possibly from too long a draw. Next point could confirm that...

Look at your release forearm; it's still not in line with your arrow shaft... again, quite possibly due to too long a dl... I didn't look at what type release you were using, or if it was set too long or if your loop was on the lengthy side; those could be other possible culprits.

Work on standing up straight, bottoming your front shoulder out, ensuring the palm is rotated out of the way on the grip, and that you have your release arm more in line with your arrow shaft.


Need to go, time's up.

IAhuntr 07-17-2008 07:49 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Try strapping that release a little bit tighter to your wrist. Not tight like a wristwatch, but a bit tighter to get the release head under your finger closer. You see that big gap between your index finger and the trigger? That's why your right arm isn't level to your arrow. Shortening up your string loop a bit will take up any remaining slack to get your arm level. And are you sure that isn't a leotard? If it snapsunder your crotch I'm outta here!

HNI_Christine 07-17-2008 07:59 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
I'm telling ya, he's a super hero in his spare time.





Obviously I have nothing helpful to add. Back to work for me. [&o];)

pheasantfanatic 07-17-2008 08:03 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Come on...I know some of you guys wear UnderArmour!!!:D

(thanks for the tips too.....;))

BGfisher 07-17-2008 08:04 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
The draw length of the bow itself is pretty close. At least no more than 1/2" long. The problem, as mentioned, is your body position. You're leaning back at the waist---because you're stretched out too far. Already mentioned, but it's the release. Way too long as shown by the drawing elbow being below the hand at full draw. Oh, and part of the leaning problem might just be that you have more weight on the rear foot. Try balancing your weight better between the feet.

Some better pictures would show a shot from behind and slightly aboveyou to show forearm alignment with the arrow.

Washington Hunter 07-17-2008 08:26 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Your draw may be long, but only by 1/4 of an inch - if that. I don't think the leaning is associated with the draw length so much as you're just not aligning your body correctly. Concentrate on squaring yourself off before you draw; feet, hips, shoulders - all should be in alignment with one another.

Your grip looks better in the second picture. The first may be misleading, but it looks like you've got more of your palm into the grip.

Bottom your bow shoulder out. Its difficult to get used to, but once you do you'll fatigue less quickly.

Tighten up your release or buy one you can adjust down. I'd be willing to bet you punch your trigger more than once during any given practice session because you have to reach furhter forward than necessary.

Don't wear UA or any other tight fitting clothing (for the love of God, no spandex please) unless you want to get ragged on. :D

TFOX 07-17-2008 08:37 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Without being able to see the feet,it is hard to tell for sure but is looks like your head and feet are aligned properly but your hips are pushed too far forward.They should be centered under your shoulders.


I personally wear my wrist release like you BUT I have it shortened MUCH shorter so I can wrap my finger over it. Take a look at my avatar,that is how I have it in it.

Siman08/OH 07-17-2008 08:41 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 

ORIGINAL: pheasantfanatic

Come on...I know some of you guys wear UnderArmour!!!:D

(thanks for the tips too.....;))
Only when im ballin....and never the long sleeve attire

MichiganWhitetails74 07-17-2008 08:44 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Even ifyou had a speedo on I'd say one thing......

Its a HOYT
looks good to me..:)



pheasantfanatic 07-17-2008 08:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: MichiganWhitetails74

Even ifyou had a speedo on I'd say one thing......

Its a HOYT
looks good to me..:)


Sad part is....I have to shoot the Pearson on camera.......I just happened have the Hoyt out today..:)

Oh well, I like the Pearson just as well.;)

Nefarious12 07-17-2008 09:42 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
I like Pearson's better than any of the bows... esp. hoyt

all I would say is hit the weight room and put the hoyt in the garbage...

Kamil 07-18-2008 07:21 AM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 

ORIGINAL: pheasantfanatic

Come on...I know some of you guys wear UnderArmour!!!:D

(thanks for the tips too.....;))
Yeah, btu we don't take pictures with it on or wear a shirt over it or don't show the pictures!!:D

pheasantfanatic 07-18-2008 08:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: Nefarious12

I like Pearson's better than any of the bows... esp. hoyt

all I would say is hit the weight room and put the hoyt in the garbage...
Finally!!! Another Pearson shooter on here!!!. Where ya been all this time????[8D]
I will say that I love the Pearson, but I also enjoy shooting the Hoyt. They are completely different in draw cycle and all that stuff, but I like them both...

(btw, I shoot the Z-32)

Germ 07-18-2008 08:58 AM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Dude lift some weights and NEVER post a picture in a shirt like that again.

You just broker Man Law rule Page 28 Section 7
Never where a satin Gay shirt while holding a bow

You must now go

1.Kill a critter
2.Burn that shirt

To make it right:D

pheasantfanatic 07-18-2008 09:02 AM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Sir, Yes Sir!!!!! Right away, SIR!!!!!

(I'm staying right here....:D)

Big Duane 07-18-2008 12:39 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
if your arrows are hitting in the same spot, your form is great

if they're not, THEN you probably need to change

form is way overrated IMO

GMMAT 07-18-2008 12:47 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 

if your arrows are hitting in the same spot, your form is great

if they're not, THEN you probably need to change

form is way overrated IMO
If you're a gifted athlete.....I tend to agree. But from my teaching days (golf).....I can tell you that proper form makes it easier to perform a MORE repeatable task. To bolster YOUR argument....I'd submit Jim Furyk's golf swing. To bolster mine....I'd submit 95% of the other touring professionals doing it with almost identical fundamentals.

Knowing what I know, though....you'd NEVER "teach" anyone to do something in a non fundamental manner.......or, at least, not anyone you wanted to succeed.;)



PABuckbuster12 07-18-2008 01:05 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Buddy Buddy As king I pronounce you banishedfrom posting any picstill you get a new shirt. LMAO !

And that brings me to a different point. Forget the satin shirt men.............Somebody get this kid a Cheesesteak and show him where the weightroom is! Please!

Hope your one of the guys who can take the fun, because I am sure I wont be the last to throw a jab in there.

Good luck, PS Form looks good, try and relax a little bit more, you might be a little to stiff.(The again it might just be the shirt ;))

Rick James 07-18-2008 01:12 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Do they sell mens clothes where you got that shirt?

Shorten the release, don't shorten the DL on the bow. Align your feet/hips/shoulders and keep your head upright, and take another pic for us.

pheasantfanatic 07-18-2008 02:01 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 

ORIGINAL: PABuckbuster12

Buddy Buddy As king I pronounce you banishedfrom posting any picstill you get a new shirt. LMAO !

And that brings me to a different point. Forget the satin shirt men.............Somebody get this kid a Cheesesteak and show him where the weightroom is! Please!

Hope your one of the guys who can take the fun, because I am sure I wont be the last to throw a jab in there.

Good luck, PS Form looks good, try and relax a little bit more, you might be a little to stiff.(The again it might just be the shirt ;))
Oh, I won't take offense to anything. I have been around here long enough to know how you guys work.....;)

TFOX 07-18-2008 03:44 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


if your arrows are hitting in the same spot, your form is great

if they're not, THEN you probably need to change

form is way overrated IMO
If you're a gifted athlete.....I tend to agree. But from my teaching days (golf).....I can tell you that proper form makes it easier to perform a MORE repeatable task. To bolster YOUR argument....I'd submit Jim Furyk's golf swing. To bolster mine....I'd submit 95% of the other touring professionals doing it with almost identical fundamentals.

Knowing what I know, though....you'd NEVER "teach" anyone to do something in a non fundamental manner.......or, at least, not anyone you wanted to succeed.;)


ditto and to add,the form gets to be more important when things aren't perfect.

Huntinman23 07-18-2008 05:52 PM

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it is all good but the release. and the best part is you have a Hoyt
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OKbowhunter20 07-18-2008 06:25 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
I believe the shirts comments have been covered (I would be dissapointed if they weren't;))


Form looks good Lucan, only thing I can see is maybe shorten that realease or put it further up your forearm and tighten it down.

stabnslab_WI 07-18-2008 08:06 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Nice shirt dude!!! What color paint is that?

Roskoe 07-19-2008 02:11 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
Your form actually looks fairly good. Everyone's physical makeup is a little different - but you could be a tad long on draw length. Try either a Tru Ball Short/N Sweet or a Scott Silver Horn release. Tighten the connecting strap to where you canjust comfortablybrace your index finger behind the trigger duringthe draw cycle.

Also, great looking bow! You might want to check the cam timing on a draw board. From the photo, it looks like the top cam might be a little over rotated at full draw.

BGfisher 07-19-2008 05:25 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 
I noticed something after looking again. Do you see where the second knuckle is on your index finger? Right under the ear? That's just about where the third knuckle should be when you are at full draw. That difference is probably about 1 1/2".

I noticed also that along with the release being long you could shorten the loop a lot too.

And don't let these guys get away with ragging on your shirt. I'll bet there are more than a few who would just love to able to get into one of those things and look that good. Might even be a few that can't see their toes except when looking in a full length mirror. LOL You're young. Flaunt it.

early in 07-19-2008 05:53 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 

ORIGINAL: BGfisher

I noticed also that along with the release being long you could shorten the loop a lot too.

That loop does seem too long. I keep my loop shortso Ihave just enough room to clip on myrelease on. You look like you might have a half inch gap there.

davidmil 07-19-2008 06:12 PM

RE: Critique me again(updated with new pictures...)
 

ORIGINAL: pheasantfanatic

Nope, it is just frickin' hot here today......:D:D:D
OPS... quoted wrong guy. See next post.


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