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GMMAT 07-14-2008 10:15 AM

Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 
Anyone read this article in NAW?

Is that deer amazing?



wis_bow_huntr 07-14-2008 10:17 AM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 
man law violation....

PABuckbuster12 07-14-2008 10:17 AM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 
Is it online do you know? I havent seen that yet. But now i want pics!

Germ 07-14-2008 10:20 AM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 
Jeff is that the 412 lb buck?

AF Hunter 07-14-2008 10:22 AM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 
http://www.snopes.com/photos/hunting/412deer.asp

fatsbucknut 07-14-2008 10:24 AM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 
If i remember correctly i thought that deer was killed on some kind of preserve. Not positive though

npockat32 07-14-2008 10:25 AM

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omg. what a bruiser!

PreacherTony 07-14-2008 10:30 AM

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Here ya go





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Rob/PA Bowyer 07-14-2008 10:33 AM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 
Read the Snopes link provided by AF Hunter, that deer DID NOT go 412, they said a shade over 300 and the trick photography.

wis_bow_huntr 07-14-2008 10:33 AM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 
Thats been going around for a couple years, thers alot of controversy on the pics.

AF Hunter 07-14-2008 10:33 AM

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Look at the guy's left hand compared to his right hand in the second photo. Really looks like the photo was doctored.

GMMAT 07-14-2008 10:35 AM

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If i remember correctly i thought that deer was killed on some kind of preserve. Not positive though
Nope.

Though typically a trustworthy site.....I tend to believe the recent NAW article in this matter.

It's not claiming to be the world's heaviest (it would miss by almost ONE HUNDRED POUNDS). And......similar deer (recorded 380lbs) have been killed near there.



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HuntingBry 07-14-2008 11:00 AM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


If i remember correctly i thought that deer was killed on some kind of preserve. Not positive though
Nope.

Though typically a trustworthy site.....I tend to believe the recent NAW article in this matter.

It's not claiming to be the world's heaviest (it would miss by almost ONE HUNDRED POUNDS). And......similar deer (recorded 380lbs) have been killed near there.


Jeff, perhaps it is a different deer that NAW is publishing. That snopes reference has been around for a few years and circulated the net numerous times. I seriously doubt a publication such as NAW would have missed that as much as it has been around.

Does anyone have the NAW article so that we can see what they are saying?

gutshot 07-14-2008 11:11 AM

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I think that the guys head that is in the picture could weigh in around 412 lbs. [&:]

GMMAT 07-14-2008 11:17 AM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 
I've got the NAW article in front of me right now.

What's your question?

Germ 07-14-2008 11:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I've got the NAW article in front of me right now.

What's your question?
Is the buck mature:D

HuntingBry 07-14-2008 11:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I've got the NAW article in front of me right now.

What's your question?
Is the deer from the Snopes article the same deer as in NAW?

Siman08/OH 07-14-2008 11:27 AM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


If i remember correctly i thought that deer was killed on some kind of preserve. Not positive though
Nope.

Though typically a trustworthy site.....I tend to believe the recent NAW article in this matter.

It's not claiming to be the world's heaviest (it would miss by almost ONE HUNDRED POUNDS). And......similar deer (recorded 380lbs) have been killed near there.


I totally agree. NAW would not publish a story about a "fake" deer, and you can never trust what you read on the internet. Plus what the hell would snopes know about deer anyways.

Steven McBee 07-14-2008 11:29 AM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 

ORIGINAL: HuntingBry


ORIGINAL: GMMAT


If i remember correctly i thought that deer was killed on some kind of preserve. Not positive though
Nope.

Though typically a trustworthy site.....I tend to believe the recent NAW article in this matter.

It's not claiming to be the world's heaviest (it would miss by almost ONE HUNDRED POUNDS). And......similar deer (recorded 380lbs) have been killed near there.


Jeff, perhaps it is a different deer that NAW is publishing. That snopes reference has been around for a few years and circulated the net numerous times. I seriously doubt a publication such as NAW would have missed that as much as it has been around.

Does anyone have the NAW article so that we can see what they are saying?
i have the NAW article about it

HuntingBry 07-14-2008 11:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: Steven McBee


ORIGINAL: HuntingBry


ORIGINAL: GMMAT


If i remember correctly i thought that deer was killed on some kind of preserve. Not positive though
Nope.

Though typically a trustworthy site.....I tend to believe the recent NAW article in this matter.

It's not claiming to be the world's heaviest (it would miss by almost ONE HUNDRED POUNDS). And......similar deer (recorded 380lbs) have been killed near there.


Jeff, perhaps it is a different deer that NAW is publishing. That snopes reference has been around for a few years and circulated the net numerous times. I seriously doubt a publication such as NAW would have missed that as much as it has been around.

Does anyone have the NAW article so that we can see what they are saying?
i have the NAW article about it
Is it the same deer as in the Snopes link?


I totally agree. NAW would not publish a story about a "fake" deer, and you can never trust what you read on the internet. Plus what the hell would snopes know about deer anyways.
It is their business to thoroughly research and either verify or debunk Internet rumors. A business so propserous the Discovery Channel started a show doing the same thing. You may have heard of it, it's call Mythbusters.

Oh, and by the way, Snopes is very good at what they do.

Siman08/OH 07-14-2008 11:38 AM

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It is their business to thoroughly research and either verify or debunk Internet rumors. A business so propserous the Discovery Channel started a show doing the same thing. You may have heard of it, it's call Mythbusters.

Oh, and by the way, Snopes is very good at what they do.
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Im not saying that they arent good at what they do. But for me, i would rather trust what NAW would publish about a deer then what snopes would.

Matt / PA 07-14-2008 11:41 AM

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The NAW article clearly states that the deer was checked and verified by reservation game wardens using a "Mule deer Tape" to estimate live weight via girth. The whitetail tape was too small to even be used.
The deer was logged in by the game wardens as 412#.
It was stated that the deers hindquarter actually sat above the level of the truck bed it was that big.

I thought the pictures looked legit the first time I saw them and it seems they were. Too many armchair photoshop experts out there.



GMMAT 07-14-2008 11:42 AM

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Is it the same deer as in the Snopes link?
Yes.


It is their business to thoroughly research and either verify or debunk Internet rumors. A business so propserous the Discovery Channel started a show doing the same thing. You may have heard of it, it's call Mythbusters.

Oh, and by the way, Snopes is very good at what they do.
WHile I typically would agree.....I did go to the site (snopes) and read about the "experts" they cited as their sources. Seems you can believe people who have no first-hand knowedge of the deer in this situation.....or you can believe the guys at NAW.

Like I said......he's not claiming to have the world record.....in fact....he's (the hunter)not claiming ANY "notoriety", at all (quite the contrary). He only said he'd shot a big deer. The internet is where the "trouble" came into the equation. He's killed some giants in the past (score-wise) and damned near passed this one up.....because it didn't meet his expectations scoring-wise (I think it scored in the low 130s).

It's almost ON HUNDRED POUNDS lighter than the world record heaviest whitetail. So he wasn't going for this angle, at all.

It's just an awesome deer.....taken by an experienced big deer hunter.....with several (at least 3) witnesses.

HuntingBry 07-14-2008 11:51 AM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


Is it the same deer as in the Snopes link?
Yes.


It is their business to thoroughly research and either verify or debunk Internet rumors. A business so propserous the Discovery Channel started a show doing the same thing. You may have heard of it, it's call Mythbusters.

Oh, and by the way, Snopes is very good at what they do.
WHile I typically would agree.....I did go to the site (snopes) and read about the "experts" they cited as their sources. Seems you can believe people who have no first-hand knowedge of the deer in this situation.....or you can believe the guys at NAW.

Like I said......he's not claiming to have the world record.....in fact....he's (the hunter)not claiming ANY "notoriety", at all (quite the contrary). He only said he'd shot a big deer. The internet is where the "trouble" came into the equation. He's killed some giants in the past (score-wise) and damned near passed this one up.....because it didn't meet his expectations scoring-wise (I think it scored in the low 130s).

It's almost ON HUNDRED POUNDS lighter than the world record heaviest whitetail. So he wasn't going for this angle, at all.

It's just an awesome deer.....taken by an experienced big deer hunter.....with several (at least 3) witnesses.
Jeff, thanks for the update on the article. I wasn't trying to say Snopes was right or wrong, just that it is in most case a reliable source of information. From what you posted and what Matt said it sounds like the deer was never actually weighed. Is that correct? Also, where was the deer actually shot, because the stories going around had various locations?

Whatever the case is that is a cow of a deer.

PABuckbuster12 07-14-2008 11:56 AM

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One of the stories I read said it came from PA, which is true he did.....I passed him up 2 years ago when he was 315....didnt meet my "Standards" :eek:

If it is real. WOW! Can't wait to see the article. Thats awesome

Germ 07-14-2008 11:58 AM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 

ORIGINAL: PABuckbuster12

One of the stories I read said it came from PA, which is true he did.....I passed him up 2 years ago when he was 315....didnt meet my "Standards" :eek:

If it is real. WOW! Can't wait to see the article. Thats awesome
He must have managed to slip by the other king on the west end[8D]



early in 07-14-2008 12:03 PM

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I read that article as well. You can trust NAW with information. That buck was killed on reservation land, but that makes no difference. It was estimated at 412lbs.I have to be honest, when I first saw pics of that buck I was one of the one's saying it was photoshopped. I stand corrected. As GMMAT said, the world record whitetailis 500lbs+.

GMMAT 07-14-2008 12:03 PM

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Deer was measured and estimated weight attained (same method used to determine the world record holding deer at 511#'s).

Deer was killed on a 120,000 Indian Reservation in NE Nebraska.

twildasin 07-14-2008 12:08 PM

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this is old news! I seen that picture a year ago! Still a very big deer no doubt!

IAhuntr 07-14-2008 12:12 PM

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The purpose of the NAW article was to clarify some of the facts surrounding the deer and dispell some of the internet rumors regarding the buck. The buck was officially estimated to weigh 412 lbs on the hoof. The hunter never claimed any record with the kill and the rack is rather average as far as matureNebraska bucks go, but even if the conservation officers girth-tape estimate was way off and the buck only weighed 380 or even 360 lbs, he is still an awesome specimen of a whitetail deer.

GMMAT 07-14-2008 12:16 PM

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The purpose of the NAW article was to clarify some of the facts surrounding the deer and dispell some of the internet rumors regarding the buck.
Exactly. It may be "old news".....but it's 2008 "Substantiated".;)

HuntingBry 07-14-2008 01:03 PM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Deer was measured and estimated weight attained (same method used to determine the world record holding deer at 511#'s).

Deer was killed on a 120,000 Indian Reservation in NE Nebraska.
Thanks again for the update.

All I can say is holy crap! Even if their estimation is off by 20 lbs what a pig of a deer that is. I'm guessing the quartered it instead of dragging it.;)

Hoyt_Viper 07-14-2008 01:26 PM

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I wonder how far they tracked it with that gut shot?

GMMAT 07-14-2008 01:32 PM

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I wonder how far they tracked it with that gut shot?
????

It would be pretty easy to find him. Just follow the indentions down the slope to where he laid.;)

Rory/MO 07-14-2008 01:35 PM

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i honestly could not even imagine shooting a deer that big. and i thought 200 pounds on the hoof was big

peakrut 07-14-2008 02:40 PM

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Yes and many sure did doubt it.

forddeerslayer 07-14-2008 02:40 PM

RE: Nebraska's "412 Buck"
 
i read that and thought it was old news. i wasnt sure still a good read. i have never seen one that big. anyone read the article about the guy who owes a ton in court fees for what sounds like a bogus accusation for shooting a deer at night with a gun and he got it with a bow and everything that was amazing too.

tsoc 07-14-2008 02:44 PM

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I read the article and believe that NAW has the real deal story.I wonder if the other deer in his woods made fun of him? Or whether he had any doe companionship? :D


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