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NCRemington700 07-14-2008 08:54 AM

Going bow shopping!! Help!!
 
Ok guys a little help here. I'm getting ready to sell my 30" draw Switchback and get a new (or new to me) bow. My draw length is between 31-31.5" since I'm 6'5" tall. I've kinda narrowed my choices down to 3 (so far!). Opinions on all four from everyone here would be greatly appreciated.

GMMAT 07-14-2008 08:56 AM

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I saw you rother post, but didn't respond. I can tell you as a former SB owner.....that I like the SB a LOT more than the Drenalin.

Just my .02, but if I was gonna go that route....I'd shoot the Dren a LOT more.

Steven McBee 07-14-2008 08:56 AM

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mathews drenalin ld

PABuckbuster12 07-14-2008 08:59 AM

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After seeing HuntingBry's Drenalin set up. I am a supporter of the Drenalin. I shoot the bear truth, but the next one I think will be a matthews.A very very nice set-up. Shoots quiet and super smooth.

bigdees27 07-14-2008 09:04 AM

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dren ld... no doubt

NCRemington700 07-14-2008 09:07 AM

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Keep in mind I have not shot any of these yet. I'm going strickly off of advice from ya'll, others, and available draw lengths.

Arthur P 07-14-2008 09:10 AM

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I'd pick the Commander. The center post pivot gives the bow the anti-torque effect of a deflexed riser with the speed of a reflexed riser. The longer your draw, the easier it is for even a slight amount of torque to screw up your accuracy, so anything that limits the amount you can accidently torque the bow is a big plus. (My draw is 33.5", so I've been there. ;)) The Commander would be a much more forgiving bow for you to shoot than the other three and you'll still get very good arrow speed.

YooperMike 07-14-2008 09:10 AM

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Wow, mathews lovers unite! I would definetely say go to the Bowtech route. May as well have the leading edge technology. I'm a long draw guy too, and that Drenalin LD is a snail (by todays standards). The 101 is awesome, screaming fast, but I love my Commander. I've wanted to trade it in twice, but j ust can't part with it. Fantastic bow, quietest you will find, and with the ATA length, the accuracy is excellent.

Edcyclopedia 07-14-2008 09:11 AM

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I have a Sasquatch friend that has the drenalin and he likes it.
:D
Coming from a short-crotch (29" inseam) like myself, I can't vouch for this, so word of mouth only.;)

I do however, have a 4 year old Matthews bow and love it and that's my final answer!

bigcountry 07-14-2008 09:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: NCRemington700

Keep in mind I have not shot any of these yet. I'm going strickly off of advice from ya'll, others, and available draw lengths.
Don't worry, most on here giving advise haven't shot them all either.:D

I have shot the drenlin and switchback and like the switchback more just because of its limb design.

I own a commander and love it and highly recommend it for a draw like yours. But its heavy. Noticably heavy. I have shot the 101st and if your a speed freak, you won't be happy unless you have this one. But, the commander is so much more quiet and shock free. I will take that over the 101st

Brknarrow1970 07-14-2008 09:15 AM

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I have both the 07 and 08 commanders - preferred the 07 commander for shootability of the ones you have listed - commander would be my choice

TexasBowHunter 07-14-2008 09:15 AM

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I shoot the commander and it is amazingly smooth and quiet, the bow has speed to spare. Keep in mind that this bow has a longer axle to axle than the others you mentioned, which works for me well. I recently just went looking for a back up bow and after shooting many I wound up buying the guardian which is the shorter version of the commander. The guardian hold all the same qualities of the commander, zero recoil, smooth draw and the quietest bow I have ever witnessed....
All the bows you mentioned are good quality bows and as you know you need to see what fits you the bestand feels the most comfortable....Good luck

NCRemington700 07-14-2008 09:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: Edcyclopedia

I have a Sasquatch friend that has the drenalin and he likes it.
:D
Sasquatch?!?! Ouch


Thanks for theinputs guys, keep them coming!

TG78 07-14-2008 09:18 AM

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I shot all four recently and liked the 101st the most out of that group. I am a newbie but there was no contest in feel stealth and draw for me. Both of the bowtechs in my mind were better bows for ME. I will not hate on Matthews as I know they are a good bow as well but just not for me.

NCRemington700 07-14-2008 09:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: Brknarrow1970

I have both the 07 and 08 commanders - preferred the 07 commander for shootability of the ones you have listed - commander would be my choice
Well you can sell me your 08 then Frank!

im ocd 07-14-2008 09:24 AM

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Consider trying the PSE X Force;)

JFergus7 07-14-2008 09:27 AM

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I don't see "None of the Above" as an answer so I didn't vote. Just be sure to shoot all of them before making any kind of decision!

bigdees27 07-14-2008 09:27 AM

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Don't worry, most on here giving advise haven't shot them all either.:D
actually i have shot all these bows, so i am speaking from experience:eek:. i like the bowtechs. i personally won't have one because i've had limb problems with the 2 that i have owned. i also like both the mathews, but i like the dren ld more because of the longer ata and its faster than the switchback ld. but hey, thats just me

NCRemington700 07-14-2008 09:28 AM

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I'm not a speed freak. I'm more interested in a smooth draw, very low hand shock, and quiet. I'm not going to be taking shots at deer at 45-50 yards. A smooth draw is very important. I really don't like bows with a hard "wall" at the end of their draw cycle.

GMMAT 07-14-2008 09:32 AM

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I'm more interested in a smooth draw, very low hand shock, and quiet. I'm not going to be taking shots at deer at 45-50 yards. A smooth draw is very important. I really don't like bows with a hard "wall" at the end of their draw cycle.
Then you don't want a Bowtech. Everything in bold is the reason to go the Mathews route. The portion in italics is the reson to go with the commander.

Good luck.

You just described why you should keep the bow you have;)

Edcyclopedia 07-14-2008 09:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: NCRemington700


ORIGINAL: Edcyclopedia

I have a Sasquatch friend that has the drenalin and he likes it.
:D
Sasquatch?!?! Ouch


Thanks for theinputs guys, keep them coming!
Sorry just having fun!!!
I forgot you had big feelings too...
Mine are small feelings, so people can say what they want about me.:(

bigdees27 07-14-2008 09:35 AM

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Then you don't want a Bowtech. Everything in bold is the reason to go the Mathews route. The portion in italics is the reson to go with the commander.
x2

blakefrautschi 07-14-2008 09:36 AM

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Dren LD for sure, i shoot the drenaline alot considering that is my dad's bow of choice... i don't have a big enough pocket...it might not be the fastest, but its smooth, quiet, and its relliable. but the Bowtech 101st is also a great bow. fast too.

Arthur P 07-14-2008 09:40 AM

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Don't worry, most on here giving advise haven't shot them all either.
Once I shot the Commander, wasn't much point in shooting anything else. Love at first draw. :D I didn't buy one for myself was because I knew the pain that shooting a bow caused me would soon override my desire, the point I reached just a few months after I'd shot the bow. If I'd thought I had another 5 years to go, I'd be shooting a Commander - with an extra long string loop;) - right now.

NCRemington700 07-14-2008 09:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT


I'm more interested in a smooth draw, very low hand shock, and quiet. I'm not going to be taking shots at deer at 45-50 yards. A smooth draw is very important. I really don't like bows with a hard "wall" at the end of their draw cycle.
Then you don't want a Bowtech. Everything in bold is the reason to go the Mathews route. The portion in italics is the reson to go with the commander.

Good luck.

You just described why you should keep the bow you have;)
I've been getting along fine with my Switchback but it is toooo short in DL for me. I got it for a good price about 2 years ago. I can feel the torque in my hand when I'm practicing because I'm over-extending myself and the bow. I know my form is suffering from the short DL too.

GMMAT 07-14-2008 09:46 AM

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I've been getting along fine with my Switchback but it is toooo short in DL for me. I got it for a good price about 2 years ago. I can feel the torque in my hand when I'm practicing because I'm over-extending myself and the bow. I know my form is suffering from the short DL too.
I have no idea (on if yours can be retrofitted with a cam of your specific DL)....but a new cam is about $90.

JeramyK 07-14-2008 09:52 AM

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All 4 bows listed are good shooters. You really can't go wrong with any of them. I think the big thing for you (since you know you are currently torquing the Switchback) is to find which bow holds the best at full draw. That's not something any of us can tell you.

Brknarrow1970 07-14-2008 10:04 AM

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sorry dave post should have read have had both, I have neither of them now -

hatchet jack 07-14-2008 10:20 AM

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Try shooting a Darton Bow before you you buy!

Hatchet Jack

NCRemington700 07-14-2008 10:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: JeramyK

All 4 bows listed are good shooters. You really can't go wrong with any of them. I think the big thing for you (since you know you are currently torquing the Switchback) is to find which bow holds the best at full draw. That's not something any of us can tell you.
The only reason I'm torquing it at full draw is b/c the DL is too short, otherwise it is fine.

bigcountry 07-14-2008 10:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: Arthur P


Don't worry, most on here giving advise haven't shot them all either.:D
Once I shot the Commander, wasn't much point in shooting anything else. Love at first draw. :D I didn't buy one for myself was because I knew the pain that shooting a bow caused me would soon override my desire, the point I reached just a few months after I'd shot the bow. If I'd thought I had another 5 years to go, I'd be shooting a Commander - with an extra long string loop;) - right now.
Well, thats because your knuckles drag the ground my man.

Arthur P 07-14-2008 10:55 AM

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You're just jealous that you don't have an 82" wingspan. ;)

BigJ71 07-14-2008 11:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: NCRemington700

I'm not a speed freak. I'm more interested in a smooth draw, very low hand shock, and quiet. I'm not going to be taking shots at deer at 45-50 yards. A smooth draw is very important. I really don't like bows with a hard "wall" at the end of their draw cycle.
Well.... What you are describing is the Mathews Switchback LD. I have one and it's all that you describe and then some! While it's not as fast as the Switchback XT from an IBO perspective (350gr 70lb 30in)you will gain speed with the longer draw. Mine is set at 32in and I'm getting 275+/- fps with a 477gr arrow.....With an 8in brace height no less!;)Not a burner by any means but perfect (IMHO) for a hunting setup.

Very accurate and stable hunting platform.




BigJ71 07-14-2008 11:17 AM

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I just re-read your other post (quiver thread).....seems like you're set on the Dren LD. Well if it shoots ANYTHING like my Switchback LD then you've got yourself a winner! Hey it can't be bad....afterall this is Mathews we're talking about, they don't make a bad bow.

NCRemington700 07-14-2008 11:20 AM

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I'm not necessarily set on the Dren. I've got a regular Switchback right now and if theLDshoots anything like it, I'm sure I'd be very happy! I'm checking to see right now if my shop hasboth in stock for me to shoot!

BigJ71 07-14-2008 11:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: NCRemington700

I'm not necessarily set on the Dren. I've got a regular Switchback right now and if theLDshoots anything like it, I'm sure I'd be very happy! I'm checking to see right now if my shop hasboth in stock for me to shoot!
Great idea NC, go out and shoot them all if you can. Shoot the Bowtechs too and decide what you like the best. personally I liked the Mathews. It was actually my second choice but after I shot it more than a few dozen times I really started to get the "feel" for this bow. It seemed the more I shot it the more I liked it and that hasn't changed! Please do yourself a favor and shoot as many shots through each bow as time will allow. You will get a much better feel for the bow that works best for your shooting style.

Good luck and from my experience, you won't be sorry you took the time. If I didn't give the Switchback another shot (pun intended) I probably would have missed out on what is quickly becoming my favorite bow of all time.

Germ 07-14-2008 11:41 AM

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Elite GT500

Better Limbs - Barnsdale
New Cam system for Binary system Zero Cam lean or limb twist
For a speed bow GT500 has a great ATA 35 7/8ths and BH 7.25
Pull is smoothest on a speed bow I have ever drawn.
If you like hard walls, this bow has one[&:]



mohunter82 07-14-2008 11:47 AM

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sorry brother I would love to help ya out but I know I haven't shot any of those yet. my shop has them b ut ihave never shot them and I cant talk bad or good on a bow I haven't used in a hunting setup. Wish ya luck with your choice thuough.

gplant 07-14-2008 12:04 PM

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Hows things going Dave? Well when I went on the new bow hunt I tried a ton of them.After it was all said and done the PSE X-Force won hands down.If you have never tried one you got to give it a go!!!! I didnt find any shooting differance between the Dream Season and the X-6 so I went for the extra speed and got the X-6. Send a note when you get time and let me know how things are going.GOOD LUCK WITH THE BOW SHOPPING!!
Oh yea give the Elite GT500 a try as well.I got one on the way.This is also one heck of a bow!!!!!
Greg

NCRemington700 07-14-2008 02:30 PM

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I just got quoted $720 for a Dren LD and I'm waiting on a call back on the Switchback LD price...should be less I would think.


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