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killzonearchery 07-09-2008 11:00 PM

Wraps no Wraps
 
How good do wraps work and what do they do? Are they worth getting them?

HOGHUNTINGUNLIMITED 07-09-2008 11:22 PM

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They're mostly to look cool... I think... Butthey also help see what kind of blood is on your arrow if you get white wraps but other than that they are just to look cool.

Bullet Hole Bailey 07-09-2008 11:49 PM

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personalization.....and being able to tel what kind of blood....other than that theres not realy a need or real big "use" for them beside to personalize yer stuff


Washington Hunter 07-10-2008 12:17 AM

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As has been mentioned, they allow you to see type/color of blood on your arrow, though this works best with all white wraps. Other than that, wraps really help aid in seeing yourr arrow in flight. Because of this, you're better able to see where you hit before the animal takes off as well.

RidgeFACTOR 07-10-2008 03:57 AM

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No glove, no love..........wrap that rascal. lol

GMMAT 07-10-2008 06:43 AM

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They're mostly to look cool... I think... Butthey also help see what kind of blood is on your arrow if you get white wraps but other than that they are just to look cool.
Nope.


personalization.....and being able to tel what kind of blood....other than that theres not realy a need or real big "use" for them beside to personalize yer stuff
Nope.


Other than that, wraps really help aid in seeing yourr arrow in flight. Because of this, you're better able to see where you hit before the animal takes off as well.
Yep.

But the MAIN reason I put 6" wraps on my arrows is.......I use reflective material. It makes them WAY easier to find in the dark (shine a ight in the area) and once you find it at your POI (or on the trail) I stick the arrow up in the ground and use it for a point of reference while I'm tracking. I can shine my light back along the trail to get my bearings and see the reflective wrap, with ease.

Nothing wrong with using them for personalization purposes.....but mine serve an even morevalid purpose.



ron3775 07-10-2008 06:47 AM

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Do you need to refletch them to put wraps on or can you put them at the base of the fletching? My sons arrows are camo with red and black fletchings. Very hard to find when the neighbor shots my sons bow and misses into the cowfield.

BobCo19-65 07-10-2008 06:55 AM

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They just look good without having to hand paint the arrow. It may reduce a bit of FOC however.

GMMAT 07-10-2008 06:59 AM

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Good point, Bob. I should have stated that I use a really heavy (450gr) arrow.

TG78 07-10-2008 07:26 AM

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One thing I might add as a benefit is that most say you will get better adhesion from the vane to the wrap then from the vane to the shaft if you are using carbon arrows. My local shop talked me into them for this fact and for visibility during and AFTER the shot. Onestringer is a great place to look for wraps and Mindy can make almost anything you want. Their wraps are about 1.1 gpi so just make sure that this weight in addition to all the other things on your arrow will work with your current spine setup (as advised to me by others). Have fun.

brucelanthier 07-10-2008 07:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: TG78

One thing I might add as a benefit is that most say you will get better adhesion from the vane to the wrap then from the vane to the shaft if you are using carbon arrows. My local shop talked me into them for this fact and for visibility during and AFTER the shot. Onestringer is a great place to look for wraps and Mindy can make almost anything you want. Their wraps are about 1.1 gpi so just make sure that this weight in addition to all the other things on your arrow will work with your current spine setup (as advised to me by others). Have fun.
I would disagree with that. If good glue is used and the fletches are put on correctly they adhere to carbon as well as anything. I have pulled arrows through targets and the vanes remain on. If the local shop you speak of cannot get fletches to adhere just as well on carbon as they do a wrap then you may want to check into other shops in your area.

killzonearchery 07-10-2008 09:23 AM

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I have done wraps once befor and they where ok. But i have fletched hundreds of arrows. They both stick about the same. If anything straight on te shaft is better becuase i can pull them straight throught targets without messing them up. If u use a wrap it might mess up the wrap. I had one that pulled the fletching and the wrap half off.

TG78 07-10-2008 09:56 AM

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Brucelanthier I respect your disagreement about sticking in you personal experiences but I do have to defend my shop. The gentlemen that I deal with there has fletched more arrows in two years then I will in two lifetimes (and he is in his 30th year)and in his opinion using all different types of glue and arrows through the years he gets better adhesion to wraps then bare carbon shafts. I would like to add that I have read through multiple posts here stating that they get better adhesion as well. I had put up a similar post a while back and one of the more popular responses that I got for a benefit was better vane adhesion. Again I mean no disrespect Bruce but I have to defend my guy as I place a lot of merit on his opinions.

HOGHUNTINGUNLIMITED 07-10-2008 11:06 AM

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GMMAT what else do they do besides look cool "to some people" and they show what kind of blood is on the arrow... You still have to wait 30 minutes before you can go track the animal. To me they're a waiste of money... Just what I think

TG78 07-10-2008 11:45 AM

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Hoghuntingunlimited I could see a lot of scenarios where you would be able to do a short retrieve on your arrow to examine the blood without spooking or tracking the animal yet. Then based on the blood seen you may be able to decide how much longer or shorter you might wait.

GMMAT 07-10-2008 11:49 AM

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GMMAT what else do they do besides look cool "to some people" and they show what kind of blood is on the arrow...
You obviously didn't read my post.;)

MeanV2 07-10-2008 11:49 AM

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I like them for visibility/personalization reasons, but I won't be using them on any new arrows because it really adds weight where I don't want it.

Dan

TG78 07-10-2008 11:55 AM

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Dan I know as you said you don't want the weight back there but I am curious if you have tested your arrow flight with and without. I am not attacking your statement but more curious how it changed them for the worse.

MeanV2 07-10-2008 12:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: TG78

Dan I know as you said you don't want the weight back there but I am curious if you have tested your arrow flight with and without. I am not attacking your statement but more curious how it changed them for the worse.
I have had trouble on some setups where I could not get as tight of groups as normal out at 40 and 50 yards. So I had to go to 125's to tighten things up.

Lots of variables in building a great flying/grouping arrow/broadhead combination and just one of them is FOC, but I never overlook it.

This year I plan on shooting the New Grizz Trick and it's only available in a 100 grain model. Stepping up to 125 grains would not be possible with that particular model;)

Dan

HOGHUNTINGUNLIMITED 07-10-2008 12:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT


GMMAT what else do they do besides look cool "to some people" and they show what kind of blood is on the arrow...
You obviously didn't read my post.;)
The dude just wanted to know if they were worth the money and I said no and they make your arrow shoot diffrent than without a wrap so I say if you don't need to look cool... than don't get them

I don't need to look cool:D

GMMAT 07-10-2008 12:52 PM

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Jesus, Hog.....Here's my quote from page 1.


But the MAIN reason I put 6" wraps on my arrows is.......I use reflective material. It makes them WAY easier to find in the dark (shine a ight in the area) and once you find it at your POI (or on the trail) I stick the arrow up in the ground and use it for a point of reference while I'm tracking. I can shine my light back along the trail to get my bearings and see the reflective wrap, with ease.

Nothing wrong with using them for personalization purposes.....but mine serve an even morevalid purpose.


TG78 07-10-2008 01:02 PM

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There are other reasons for using them other than "looking cool" and anyone who tells you otherwise does not know what they are talking about. There are many people on this site who can attest to other benefits. I cannot tell you how many times I hear I like my wrap for this or that, again it is a personal choice but it is used for something more than just a sticker.


GMMAT 07-10-2008 01:13 PM

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And don't think for a second that added weight to your arrow is (always)a BAD thing.

In the right circumstances/setup.....it's DESIRED.;)

Howler 07-10-2008 01:25 PM

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Maybe if everyone used "personnalized" wraps on them so that any time you lost an arrow, weather it bestuck in a lost animal or just stuck in the brush some where, the arrow could br traced back to the shooter, kind of like bullet stamping. Maybe this would curb bad shot selection/placement. [8D];)

I like lookin' cool I guess, but I also like being able to have an easier time finding my arrow. Same reason I sometimes use lighted arrow nocks! Now those things really aid in showing arrow flight, much better than bright vanes and wraps!



MeanV2 07-10-2008 03:34 PM

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And don't think for a second that added weight to your arrow is (always)a BAD thing.
Most just prefer not to add weight on the back end if they know much about the workings of an arrow. Weight on front is good, but adding weightto the back canbe most generally is Not Good.

If anyone uses lighted nocks, wraps, vanes, etc. Be sure to check your FOC. If it's not high enough keep your shots close.

Dan

killzonearchery 07-10-2008 09:36 PM

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well i fletch up 4 for my grandpals arrows. i have used them befor and i thought they where ok. But i did them for him and within a couple of shots the are all ready wearing the color off. Does anyone no y this is? Are they just chep ones r do ur alls do this to?

im ocd 07-11-2008 05:37 AM

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I started using wraps this year. I like the added visibility. I don't like adding weight to the rear of the arrow, but there is no free lunch. Since I'm using feathers it helps offset the added weight. I used Blazer Tigerwraps because the stripes help hide surface imperfections on the shafts from being re-fletched. I also like using Blazer wraps with feathers because it's not PC.[8D]




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