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rybohunter 07-07-2008 07:52 AM

Huge rack = lotta points?
 
This always cracks me up and I’m sure many of you know guys like this. The ones always seeing the 12 & 14 points. It seems like so many guys see a big racked buck and are automatically giving it a higher number of points because its big. I was at a party this weekend, and a pretty nice 8 point come thru the guy’s yard. 16-17” wide, 7-8” tines. He’d been seeing it for several weeks now. One of the party goers saw it and was like “oh that thing is big, its gotta be at least a 10, probably a 12 point, being that big”. I couldn’t help but smile. I know guys that see “12 points” all the time, and know full well they didn’t count points, but if its big to them, it MUST be a 12 point.

Steven McBee 07-07-2008 07:54 AM

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lol, ever time we go to breakfast at this corner cafe up in gallatin on opening morning, someones always in there telling us how they missed the 14 pointer. That seems to be the story every time someone misses a nice little 8 or even a small 10, the story ends up as a boone and crockett 14 point

Schultzy 07-07-2008 07:56 AM

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Damn Ryan I hear this all the time!! Its usually the gun hunters or the farmers in the area saying this to me. If they were all right with there observations I'd have booners coming out of the woods every where!

Kamil 07-07-2008 07:59 AM

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WHAT!!!??? IT'S NOT TRUE!!???:D:D:D J/k yeah I find that a lot of peopleae exaggerate when it comes to talking about the number of deer they have seend and the size.

JoeRE 07-07-2008 08:04 AM

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I share similar thoughts. If someone says they saw (or missed, or whatever)a 12 (or 14) pointer around here, I almost automatically discount it. They exist, of course, but very rarely. ThemostpointsI have seen are two 11 point typicals (notincluding nontypical stickers), out ofmaybe ahundred or more mature bucks over the years. I knew a forked brow tine 12 but that doesnt count as a typical.

GMMAT 07-07-2008 08:05 AM

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I take what my neighbors say with a grain of salt.....but I still listen;).

My next door neighbor (and by that....I mean he lives on the 25 acre tract, beside me) is the exception. He's a former bowhunter....and when he tells me he saw something that got his attention......I listen. He saw my '06 8-pointer before I did. He said...."He's a nice8-pointer for around here". When I showed him the harvestphoto....he said "Yep...that's him".

My best little woodlot........the landowner told me of a buck that was hanging out in there.....that looked like his rack was too big for his body. He saw me drag my '06 buck out.....and said "Yep.....that's him".....lol.

Same deer......two different descriptions.....by two different experience level people.

So.....like I said....I take everything they say with a grain of salt.;)


kickin_buck 07-07-2008 08:11 AM

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I had a brother-in-law that always seen big deer, I mean every outing. The funny part is, he never put one down. I got to know his BS line after hunting with him the first year. Everything was a 12, but his kick was they had "stickers" or "kickers". Everyone knew it was BS if he said the word stickers or kickers.

drhntr178 07-07-2008 08:13 AM

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Same story around here with most guys.

But my dad, who doesnt hunt,is on the other end of the spectrum. Almost everything he sees is a 6 point even the 140 and 150 class deer.I tried to teach him how to estimate points, and heevenhas a high quality set of binos and spotting scope. Nothing has helped.The funny thing is that ive never found any sheds from a 6 pointer on the farm. Wekilled and shown him sheds from deer killedscoring over 140" that heseen several times and thought were 6 pointers.(One was a 12 pointer and one was an 8 pointer)

HuntingBry 07-07-2008 08:14 AM

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Ryan, I've always wondered if that was just a PA thing or if it happens elsewhere too. Around here the majority of the bucks, even the very big bucks carry an 8 point frame. I don't know why, that's just the way it is. But you'll see a big boy posing in a field far off and someone in the shop will be talking about him saying just what you said. "He had to be at least a 10 point being that big."

10 points around here are pretty special. If you see a 12 you'd better shoot because that is rare for this area.

bloodcrick 07-07-2008 08:14 AM

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I here you Ryan :DI work with a guy that has seen :eek:a 16 pointer every opening day for firearm for the last 10 years :DBut never gets him :D

GregH 07-07-2008 08:17 AM

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Over the years, the number of points of a decent buck that has been spotted by someone, has grown to be 14 points.

"Oh Greg, you should have seen the buck I saw from my stand tonight!"

How big?

"A 14 pointer!."

How wide?

"At least 24 to 26 inches wide!."

This guy shot one and described it to me like that above. The next morning he went out and recovered it and never called. When I got home I called him and found out he got it, so I went over to see it. When he opened the garage door, he sheepishly said, "It's not as big as I thought".

There lay a 2 1/2 year old 9 pointer with a 15 inch spread and scored about 115 gross.

So much for the B&C 14 pointer! :eek:

Schultzy 07-07-2008 08:21 AM

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Right on Greg!! Its just like bear hunting, everyone says there bear weighs 300+. 95% of the time there full of it!

Siman08/OH 07-07-2008 08:50 AM

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We always give myuncle a hard time because he once told us he saw a "16 pointer" run across the horse pasture(from 200 yards away and no binos:eek:).


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