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magicman54494 07-03-2008 12:16 PM

RE: Big Buck Barometer
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Many people say that age determines the trophy. Why do these people then complain that their area doesn't produce inches?

Most I see in this thread talking about it....aren't complaining. Pointing out something thats simply "the way it is" isn't a complaint, at all. It stating a point of view (and most likely...a fact).

Why do they suppliment with minerals? Minerals don't increase age.

Minerals aid not only bucks....but does, alike. Does use the minerals to aid them during lactating. Mineral sites are also good spots to put up trail cams to get an inventory of the herd one is hunting. It serves a valuable service to the hunter and the herd, in triplicate.

Why do they plant food plots?

See above.

Why don't people look at a deer mount or picture and ask "how old was he"?

I do. First thing I wanna know is: 1. Where was he shot? 2. HOW was he taken (what weapon)? 3. How old was he? & 4. What did he score?

People come in the forums all the time and ask opinions on a deer's age v. what he might score.

Why do people ask "what did he score"?

Because they want to know what he might/did score???

Why does the deer contest on this forum go by score and not age?

Because it had to have SOME method of distinguishing a "winner". Ask the forum (via a poll)if the 5.5yr old the man from TN shot that scored 105" is a bigger "trophy" than the 110" 2.5yr old from IL that was entered. The contest, of course, notwithstanding;)
Thanks for clearing that up for me.

I curious, why would anyone suppliment the food and mineral needs of the does in an area that is already way overpopulated?

If 2 deer walked past your stand at the same time and one was 5.5 years old and scored 115 and the other was 3.5 and scored 155 which trophy would you shoot?

Germ 07-03-2008 12:17 PM

RE: Big Buck Barometer
 

ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

Hell no your not seeing them if your spooking them with spotlights from july on. It's all comming to "LIGHT"now.:D:D
;)

MN/Kyle 07-03-2008 12:20 PM

RE: Big Buck Barometer
 
Richard Simmons is gay?


It really does not ALL boil down to location. Location is only part of the equation, like it or not...... that's gospel.
I tend to agree with this.



rybohunter 07-03-2008 12:29 PM

RE: Big Buck Barometer
 
I live about 40 minutes from Fran but our main hunting spots are more like 1.5 hrs apart.
Spotting is my best chance to see what’s in my general area, but it’s a lot of work & gas. I could go 5-6 nights without seeing a shooter, then all in a sudden catch a bachelor group at the right time. They get real spooky of the lights and people taking pot shots at them. I’m not sure if the pressure of spotting kills or saves more deer. They get hammered often enough with the light, I think they start to disappear before the crosshairs are centered.

Greg / MO 07-03-2008 12:32 PM

RE: Big Buck Barometer
 
Come oooon October 1st.

Buck Magnet 07-03-2008 12:32 PM

RE: Big Buck Barometer
 
My question is why in the world should we care how "smart" or "wise" the buck we shoot was (usually associated with age)? Isn't our whole goal to kill a deer? I have shot two bucks in PA that were over the 6 year mark and don't see any differance between them and the 3 year olds. The only real difference I see is a 1.5-2.5 and 3.5's or older.

Germ 07-03-2008 12:32 PM

RE: Big Buck Barometer
 

ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle

Richard Simmons is gay?


It really does not ALL boil down to location. Location is only part of the equation, like it or not...... that's gospel.
I tend to agree with this.
I do also to a point.

Let be honest as for has habitat wise Minn has over twice as much as Iowa. Iowa shoots a larger percentage of their herd than Minn. Yet Iowa shoots twice as many big bucks also.

Management plans and hunters make a huge difference in location. Take Iowa's management and hunterattitude, put it in Minn,and we are all hating Minn instead of Iowa[8D]

I truly hate Iowa, Ill, Wis and KS[8D]

GMMAT 07-03-2008 12:32 PM

RE: Big Buck Barometer
 

I curious, why would anyone suppliment the food and mineral needs of the does in an area that is already way overpopulated?
Because it's not the fawns' fault. Call me a softy....but if I can help the does by providing minerals....I will. That it also helps the bucks is a bonus. That it also aids me in getting photos of the bucks.....icing on the cake. Plus....hell I'm gonna shoot a few of 'em....and I likes 'em healthy!


If 2 deer walked past your stand at the same time and one was 5.5 years old and scored 115 and the other was 3.5 and scored 155 which trophy would you shoot?
I've answered this honestly in a previous post. I'd shoot the 155. Shrink those numbers to 105" 5.5yr old and a 115" 3.5yr old....and I arrow the 105" 5.5yr old every time. It doesn't matter to me whether anyone else feels this way, believes me, or otherwise. That's what I'd do. See....in my woods they would BOTH be 2 of the "best" representative deer, there.....and I'd be tickled to death to take either one.

I don't chastise anyone for being an antler hunter....nor do I question their sanity or sincerity. Good for them. I'm an opportunist. Given the opportunity....I'll take the 1st "best" representative deer out of my woods that offers a shot. Hang 'em high.

quiksilver 07-03-2008 12:33 PM

RE: Big Buck Barometer
 
Gary - the old lady that lives on one of the farms I hunt told me (honestly) that she had only seen 5 deer all season. The neighbor told me that they all died of EHD this year. He was serious. Laypeople have no clue what's lurking.

BTW - Rybo lives about 45 minutes away. I think he hunts further away yet.

But back to the mysterious ghost-bucks, I like to think that I DO know what caliber deer live in my own back yard.

Thousands and Thousands and Thousands of deer, every possible time of year... I don't know how else to tell you - but Ido indeed knowwhat kind of deer live in my area. You guys act like there's some kind of higher level of understanding involved... There's not.

I KNOW there's a statistical anomaly or two running around, and I HOPE that someday I'm lucky enough to see one... But I know some damn good hunters. And I know some people who hunt on some greatly-managed farms... And NOBODY is consistently killing PY bucks year-in, year-out in my area.I know this. For sure.

The fact of the matter is, if a big buck exists, it has to either die, or the antlers have to fall off. No way around it. When either of these events take place, it leaves hard evidence of its existence behind. My point is that where NO HARD EVIDENCE IS EVER FOUND - it's reasonable to presume that this imaginary caliber of deer simply did not exist in that area.

The tooth fairy doesn't beam down to earth and suck up the sheds. Aliens don't come down and scoop up the carcass.

bawanajim 07-03-2008 12:35 PM

RE: Big Buck Barometer
 

ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle

Richard Simmons is gay?


It really does not ALL boil down to location. Location is only part of the equation, like it or not...... that's gospel.
I tend to agree with this.
I do also to a point.

Let be honest as for has habitat wise Minn has over twice as much as Iowa. Iowa shoots a larger percentage of their herd than Minn. Yet Iowa shoots twice as many big bucks also.

Management plans and hunters make a huge difference in location. Take Iowa's management and hunterattitude, put it in Minn,and we are all hating Minn instead of Iowa[8D]

I truly hate Iowa, Ill, Wis and KS[8D]
And PA;)


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