How big of a threat are coyotes?
07-01-2008 | 07:41 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: How big of a threat are coyotes?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Interesting about the yotes....but I'm perplexed as to why you think a deer herd doesn't do the same thing.
Coyotes (as well as mosquitos)have the natural ability toadjust their litter sizes to reach carrying capacity, unlike most animals (deer, elk, antelope, etc.) that generally have 1 or 2 babies per year.
07-01-2008 | 07:46 PM
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RE: How big of a threat are coyotes?
coyote offspring population is determined by the number of coyotes an area can sustain.
Conversely.....in the climate I live in.....IF the population were low....I'm betting the fawn survival rate would be >1/doe.
There's a good article in the current D&DH discussing this. I'm also witnessing this in my woods.
07-01-2008 | 07:54 PM
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RE: How big of a threat are coyotes?
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And deer herds are controlled (by mother nature) using the same principle. In areas of high deer density.....high (>60%) fawn mortality rates (due mainly to fawn abandonment) and does not being bred equate to the same end result (i.e. population determined by numbers the area can sustain).
coyote offspring population is determined by the number of coyotes an area can sustain.
07-01-2008 | 07:56 PM
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RE: How big of a threat are coyotes?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
And deer herds are controlled (by mother nature) using the same principle. In areas of high deer density.....high (>60%) fawn mortality rates (due mainly to fawn abandonment) and does not being bred equate to the same end result (i.e. population determined by numbers the area can sustain).
Conversely.....in the climate I live in.....IF the population were low....I'm betting the fawn survival rate would be >1/doe.
And deer herds are controlled (by mother nature) using the same principle. In areas of high deer density.....high (>60%) fawn mortality rates (due mainly to fawn abandonment) and does not being bred equate to the same end result (i.e. population determined by numbers the area can sustain).
Conversely.....in the climate I live in.....IF the population were low....I'm betting the fawn survival rate would be >1/doe.
07-01-2008 | 08:04 PM
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RE: How big of a threat are coyotes?
ORIGINAL: bemidjihunter
Intresting side note-a doe will almost always concieve two fawns. If the winter is severe enough or if food is scarce enough, one will be misscaried. And if the option is there, it will always be the male. I'm not sure why.
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07-01-2008 | 08:22 PM
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RE: How big of a threat are coyotes?
ORIGINAL: janesburg
I've heard of the doe aborting a fetus if it can't support it (hard winter). I've never heard that the doe will always abort the male. Where did you get that information?
ORIGINAL: bemidjihunter
Intresting side note-a doe will almost always concieve two fawns. If the winter is severe enough or if food is scarce enough, one will be misscaried. And if the option is there, it will always be the male. I'm not sure why.
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
07-01-2008 | 08:42 PM
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RE: How big of a threat are coyotes?
Depends on their food supply. I've had them kill my dogs, sheep and a calf once.Normally ifthey have plenty of rabbits they rarely mess with other animals.
Iknow somefarmers that do not kill them because rabbits can cause havoc on vegetable gardens.
Iknow somefarmers that do not kill them because rabbits can cause havoc on vegetable gardens.
07-01-2008 | 09:40 PM
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RE: How big of a threat are coyotes?
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Wow, that is very interesting. I will try to wipe them all out then. 
This is true, but your talking about the carrying capacity being maintained by mother nature. Even if the deer population is devastated by a horrible winter or something like blue tongue, all the does in the area can breed and have twins (assuming the food sources are adequate) and the herd can still be short of the carrying capacity. Coyotes on the other hand don't have that problem.
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
And deer herds are controlled (by mother nature) using the same principle. In areas of high deer density.....high (>60%) fawn mortality rates (due mainly to fawn abandonment) and does not being bred equate to the same end result (i.e. population determined by numbers the area can sustain).
coyote offspring population is determined by the number of coyotes an area can sustain.
This is true, but your talking about the carrying capacity being maintained by mother nature. Even if the deer population is devastated by a horrible winter or something like blue tongue, all the does in the area can breed and have twins (assuming the food sources are adequate) and the herd can still be short of the carrying capacity. Coyotes on the other hand don't have that problem.