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I'm jumping in here late but i want to add some thought to this (might have been said),

All of my buddies (aged 16-23) think the "only" way to shoot is to have their bows maxed out at 70+ pounds, and they always rag on me for my 55lb draw. Yet whenever we shoot more than a few rounds of arrows, or, if its on the colder side of things, they have trouble drawing their bow. Now i can pull back their 70lb bows, but i don't like to. Especially if a big buck is coming down the trail my way, i don't want to have to deal with straining to get my bow pulled back.

Ive never had my bow chrono'd and if i did the numbers probably wouldn't be that great, but it kills deer and i limit my shots to 25 yards anyways....so it works for MY setup.

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I think that was well said. That is why I am joining me and my son to an archery league in the next week or so. I still may end up with a Matthews next year however, LOL!

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I'm basically a 20 yard bowhunter. If I have two different bows that produce equal accuracy (in my hands) at hunting ranges, but one shoots about 280 fps and the other 315 fps, why shoot slow? ;)

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I agree Magic. I think at 50 pounds youwould be fine when you're in the zone...if the zone is 20 yards....However some situtations can play a role with slower bows....for instance ....alert deer....looking at you upon release....we all know there are times when deer "drop and turn" at the pluck of a string....obviously speed helps with the variation in arrow trajectory on a deer that is in the alert mode when you release....

but then I reflect back to the late 80's....When we tossed heavy 2216 easton aluminums at 31 inches....and we never had a problem......

I guess my final opinion would be......a relaxed deer at 20 yards doesn't know if you're shooting 230 fps or 312....A good subject that has me thinkin......

I guess the bottom line is....find the lungs with a sharp head....and yer home free.....

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Ya I love it when the (speed freaks) tell me and my dad and the group of Traditional hunters I hunt with that were nuts bringing our recurves and longbows out west to the mountains and open country being you can't get any animals closer then 30 to 40 yards. I here the same thing every time from these folks (you can't shoot an arrow at 40 yards with a recurve and expect to be deadly)! I say yep your right and I would never attempt it! The funny thing is these people eat there words 9 times out of 10 when they see us again with our animals. Learn to hunt better if you can and get them close so you don't have to worry about having a 300+fps bow. It can be done believe it or not! I have no choice in the matter being I choose to hunt with a recurve. Speed is nice but its by far not a necessity. Allot of bow hunters don't put the time and patience into bow hunting anymore, lets get a fast enough bow so we can shoot 40+ yards instead.

I'm not one bit what so ever knocking you folks who shoot a very fast bow. Whatever fits your style of hunting I guess is good for you. My recurve shoots about 210fps. It has got the job done.

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Alright, this is PAINFUL to read. :D


Here's what I think on the situation. You guys like to jump on one another because you don't agree with them, and that is DEFINATELY not right. Speed is something that is relative. At what point are you guys saying something is slow, or fast? If you can get the speed with your setup, why wouldn't you want it? It doesn't make any sense, if you can get the speed, use it. Speed has advantages, no doubt about it, especially if you can get it and stay at a comfortable poundage. For deer, if you are shooting high poundage, I think the optimal KE setup and all around setup is 400-450gr. That's going to punch through just about anything. Run the numbers, if the happy medium isn't with one of those numbers I'll be surprised. For me, I'll be shooting lower poundage this year, out of a semi speed bow (330fps IBO).

I don't think it's right for the people who are shooting slow arrows, to talk down and passs judgment off on the speed guys. If a guy can shoot high poundage to hunt with (I don't feel comfortable doing so) and want to shoot a speed setup, I think that's great. A 400gr arrow going 300fps or better is going to punch through about anything. (In North America). My setup is based on killing deer, and honestly it doesn't take as much as what some people think. Last year I shot a 360gr arrow at 280fps and blew through a doe at 35yards on the ground. This year the arrow will be a little lighter and faster, and I'll be willing to bet it'll pass through again ;).

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No it isn't right! Is it right just the opposite? I've seen more bow hunters laugh and put down people because they are not shooting the fastest set ups they can. I've seen more of this then people talking down people with speedy bows.

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I agree Schultz.


Pretty much...Passing Judgment=BAD [8D]:D

I just said that, because thats the way this thread was heading.

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I know where your coming from Matt.;)

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My last hunting bow kicked a 480 grain arrow out at a smoking 170-180 fps. I killed several deer and hogs with it. I had to do two things; Keep the shots close and aim low.

I'm getting 244 fps out of my bowtech. I still aim at the deer's heart. The difference is; I usually hit them there. I also don't need a pin for 10 yards,another one for 15 yards and one for20 yards. :)