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05-20-2008 | 07:52 PM
#71
Nontypical Buck
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From: Where the ducks don't come no more
RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
ORIGINAL: joshw020
You're kidding, right? . . . I'm not damning you for using a CB man, if it's your thing, it's your thing. . .but I see guys smoke deer ALL season at 40 & 50 yards without any problems from string jumping. Are they loud?. . .um, yeah. . .but at the speed those bolts travel, good luck to anything within 50 yards. This doesn't come from theories in my head bro. . .it's what I SEE with my own eyes each and every season.
ORIGINAL: Hotburn76
Most CB's sound like smacking a yard stick on a table at best. String jump is a big factor for CB hunting. I enjoy hunting with Cb's, and am not trying to compare them as level, but bogus statements like that make no sense at all. They are not the long range weapon people think they are.
ORIGINAL: joshw020
.... goes out into the field and kills a 200+ booner at 60 yards with nothing on his mind but the rack hanging on the wall....
.... goes out into the field and kills a 200+ booner at 60 yards with nothing on his mind but the rack hanging on the wall....
So Josh you actually sit in the stand/film with these guys shooting deer at 40-50 yards?
05-20-2008 | 07:54 PM
#72
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: H.R., Virginia
RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
ORIGINAL: joshw020
You're kidding, right? . . . I'm not damning you for using a CB man, if it's your thing,it's your thing. . .but I see guys smoke deer ALL season at 40& 50 yards without any problems from string jumping. Are they loud?. . .um, yeah. . .but at the speed those bolts travel, good luck to anything within 50 yards. This doesn't come from theories in my head bro. . .it's what ISEE with my own eyes each and every season.
ORIGINAL: Hotburn76
Most CB's sound like smacking a yard stick on a table at best. String jump is a big factor for CB hunting. I enjoy hunting with Cb's, and am not trying to compare them as level, but bogus statements like that make no sense at all. They are not the long range weapon people think they are.
ORIGINAL: joshw020
....goes out into the field and kills a 200+ booner at 60 yards with nothing on his mindbut the rack hanging on the wall....
....goes out into the field and kills a 200+ booner at 60 yards with nothing on his mindbut the rack hanging on the wall....
05-20-2008 | 07:57 PM
#73
Giant Nontypical
Joined: Sep 2005
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From: Mont County, Pa
RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
ORIGINAL: SwampCollie
So Josh you actually sit in the stand/film with these guys shooting deer at 40-50 yards?
ORIGINAL: joshw020
You're kidding, right? . . . I'm not damning you for using a CB man, if it's your thing, it's your thing. . .but I see guys smoke deer ALL season at 40 & 50 yards without any problems from string jumping. Are they loud?. . .um, yeah. . .but at the speed those bolts travel, good luck to anything within 50 yards. This doesn't come from theories in my head bro. . .it's what I SEE with my own eyes each and every season.
ORIGINAL: Hotburn76
Most CB's sound like smacking a yard stick on a table at best. String jump is a big factor for CB hunting. I enjoy hunting with Cb's, and am not trying to compare them as level, but bogus statements like that make no sense at all. They are not the long range weapon people think they are.
ORIGINAL: joshw020
.... goes out into the field and kills a 200+ booner at 60 yards with nothing on his mind but the rack hanging on the wall....
.... goes out into the field and kills a 200+ booner at 60 yards with nothing on his mind but the rack hanging on the wall....
So Josh you actually sit in the stand/film with these guys shooting deer at 40-50 yards?
I'm pretty sure the noise would get there first!
05-20-2008 | 07:57 PM
#74
Nontypical Buck
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From: Millboro, Va
RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
ORIGINAL: Lubricious
How fast do YOU believe these crossbows are shooting? Id wager that you are very far off from actual figures.
ORIGINAL: joshw020
You're kidding, right? . . . I'm not damning you for using a CB man, if it's your thing,it's your thing. . .but I see guys smoke deer ALL season at 40& 50 yards without any problems from string jumping. Are they loud?. . .um, yeah. . .but at the speed those bolts travel, good luck to anything within 50 yards. This doesn't come from theories in my head bro. . .it's what ISEE with my own eyes each and every season.
ORIGINAL: Hotburn76
Most CB's sound like smacking a yard stick on a table at best. String jump is a big factor for CB hunting. I enjoy hunting with Cb's, and am not trying to compare them as level, but bogus statements like that make no sense at all. They are not the long range weapon people think they are.
ORIGINAL: joshw020
....goes out into the field and kills a 200+ booner at 60 yards with nothing on his mindbut the rack hanging on the wall....
....goes out into the field and kills a 200+ booner at 60 yards with nothing on his mindbut the rack hanging on the wall....
Granted the difference is in KE .. my Hunter has 95 lbs. of KE compared to 70 or so with a compound. But it gets there not faster than a compound and in some cases much slower.
05-20-2008 | 08:12 PM
#75
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RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
Holy cow, I can't believe the load of crap on this thread. If anyone thinks a compound has twice the range of a crossbow, bottom line, nicest way I can say it, they do not know crossbows or compounds.
I have personally seen the effects of crossbows, and I don't like it. I see 18 year olds just wandering around public land with crossbow full cocked. I have hunted for decades, and have never seen this before with compounds.
I would still like to see them put in thier own season as its a totally different class of weapon compared to compound, recurve or longbow.
I guarantee I can make shots with a crossbow, I can't with a bow. You don't have have to stand, just use a gunrest.
I have personally seen the effects of crossbows, and I don't like it. I see 18 year olds just wandering around public land with crossbow full cocked. I have hunted for decades, and have never seen this before with compounds.
I would still like to see them put in thier own season as its a totally different class of weapon compared to compound, recurve or longbow.
I guarantee I can make shots with a crossbow, I can't with a bow. You don't have have to stand, just use a gunrest.
05-20-2008 | 08:14 PM
#76
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RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
ORIGINAL: RockinChair
My crossbow, the Horton Hunter is the top Horton model and it shoots ARROWS at a speed of up to 320 fps. The 82nd and 101st Airborne are advertised at shooting 330-340 fps. Now I'm no math major but I think that compound is shooting a bit faster.
Granted the difference is in KE .. my Hunter has 95 lbs. of KE compared to 70 or so with a compound. But it gets there not faster than a compound and in some cases much slower.
My crossbow, the Horton Hunter is the top Horton model and it shoots ARROWS at a speed of up to 320 fps. The 82nd and 101st Airborne are advertised at shooting 330-340 fps. Now I'm no math major but I think that compound is shooting a bit faster.
Granted the difference is in KE .. my Hunter has 95 lbs. of KE compared to 70 or so with a compound. But it gets there not faster than a compound and in some cases much slower.
05-20-2008 | 08:16 PM
#77
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RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
ORIGINAL: RockinChair
Cleary you haven't hunted with one. I just started a thread in the crossbow forum about the unique challenges that crossbow hunters face. I encourage you to take a look and think you'll soon realize that they are far differnt from a gun.
The only advantage a crossbow presents to the hunter is the luxury of not having to draw. And while I realize that is a major difference.. the disadvantages presented to crossbow hunters level the playing field IMO.
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
There soon to be legal every where. Here in Minnesota you can use them during the Archery season if you qualify for a permit (health reasons). Otherwise during the gun season there legal to use. I'm not a big pusher for crossbows, there not a bow by any means in my book. Keep them in the gun season if there going to be made legal and keep them out of the Archery season. There more of a gun then a bow to me.
There soon to be legal every where. Here in Minnesota you can use them during the Archery season if you qualify for a permit (health reasons). Otherwise during the gun season there legal to use. I'm not a big pusher for crossbows, there not a bow by any means in my book. Keep them in the gun season if there going to be made legal and keep them out of the Archery season. There more of a gun then a bow to me.
The only advantage a crossbow presents to the hunter is the luxury of not having to draw. And while I realize that is a major difference.. the disadvantages presented to crossbow hunters level the playing field IMO.
05-20-2008 | 08:21 PM
#78
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: H.R., Virginia
RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
I would still like to see them put in thier own season as its a totally different class of weapon compared to compound, recurve or longbow.
I guarantee I can make shots with a crossbow, I can't with a bow. You don't have have to stand, just use a gunrest.
I would still like to see them put in thier own season as its a totally different class of weapon compared to compound, recurve or longbow.
I guarantee I can make shots with a crossbow, I can't with a bow. You don't have have to stand, just use a gunrest.
Should compounds have a seperate season than traditionals? Totally different class of archery....
05-20-2008 | 08:22 PM
#79
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: Findlay, Ohio
RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
ORIGINAL: joshw020
You're kidding, right? . . . I'm not damning you for using a CB man, if it's your thing,it's your thing. . .but I see guys smoke deer ALL season at 40& 50 yards without any problems from string jumping. Are they loud?. . .um, yeah. . .but at the speed those bolts travel, good luck to anything within 50 yards. This doesn't come from theories in my head bro. . .it's what ISEE with my own eyes each and every season.
ORIGINAL: Hotburn76
Most CB's sound like smacking a yard stick on a table at best. String jump is a big factor for CB hunting. I enjoy hunting with Cb's, and am not trying to compare them as level, but bogus statements like that make no sense at all. They are not the long range weapon people think they are.
ORIGINAL: joshw020
....goes out into the field and kills a 200+ booner at 60 yards with nothing on his mindbut the rack hanging on the wall....
....goes out into the field and kills a 200+ booner at 60 yards with nothing on his mindbut the rack hanging on the wall....
But I still hold to one fact, you showa 200 class buck that was shot at sixty yards with a CB and I show you a deaf or dumb buck, plain and simple.
If you see deer getting shot at that distance as often as you say you must have deer in your part of the state that are different then the deer in the rest of Ohio and North America for that matter. CB's are loud and the entire woods knows it when you shoot one.
05-20-2008 | 08:28 PM
#80
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: H.R., Virginia
RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
So your comparing a entry level crossbow to top of thier game level compounds? How about coming down to reality and comparing a 255fps PSE to your 320fps horton
ORIGINAL: RockinChair
My crossbow, the Horton Hunter is the top Horton model and it shoots ARROWS at a speed of up to 320 fps. The 82nd and 101st Airborne are advertised at shooting 330-340 fps. Now I'm no math major but I think that compound is shooting a bit faster.
Granted the difference is in KE .. my Hunter has 95 lbs. of KE compared to 70 or so with a compound. But it gets there not faster than a compound and in some cases much slower.
My crossbow, the Horton Hunter is the top Horton model and it shoots ARROWS at a speed of up to 320 fps. The 82nd and 101st Airborne are advertised at shooting 330-340 fps. Now I'm no math major but I think that compound is shooting a bit faster.
Granted the difference is in KE .. my Hunter has 95 lbs. of KE compared to 70 or so with a compound. But it gets there not faster than a compound and in some cases much slower.
I dont think the crossbows have anything near uniform for speed measurement though ,so advertised speed might be optimistic. Anyone know?