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Have any of you ever held a loved dog (pet) while it was killed? Did you enjoy that kill?

Proably the biggest apples to Oranges comparison I've ever seen on this site.

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ORIGINAL: Charlie P

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Have any of you ever held a loved dog (pet) while it was killed? Did you enjoy that kill?

Proably the biggest apples to Oranges comparison I've ever seen on this site.

Why?

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ORIGINAL: brucelanthier

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ORIGINAL: Charlie P

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Have any of you ever held a loved dog (pet) while it was killed? Did you enjoy that kill?

Proably the biggest apples to Oranges comparison I've ever seen on this site.

Why?

Bruce,
This isn't an inflammatory question, it's a sincere one. Are you justlooking to debate this issue, or do you really believe that the killing of a family pet because it has to be put downand killing a deer during bowseason fall into the same category? To me, that would be like saying a drive-by shooting fatalityand killing an enemy in battle are the same. While both are killing, they are two totally different things.

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To me, that would be like saying a drive-by shooting fatalityand killing an enemy in battle are the same. While both are killing, they are two totally different things.

Fine....we'll do it your way.....but I don't think I'd wanna be associated with any of them that ENJOY that type killing, either.;)

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To me, that would be like saying a drive-by shooting fatalityand killing an enemy in battle are the same. While both are killing, they are two totally different things.

Fine....we'll do it your way.....but I don't think I'd wanna be associated with any of them that ENJOY that type killing, either.;)

Agreed, Jeff. I was simply attempting to point out thedifferences between the two examples.:)

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To me, that would be like saying a drive-by shooting fatalityand killing an enemy in battle are the same. While both are killing, they are two totally different things.

Fine....we'll do it your way.....but I don't think I'd wanna be associated with any of them that ENJOY that type killing, either.;)

I would not have any bad feelings about putting a bullet in a child molersters head, does that make me bad?

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ORIGINAL: brucelanthier

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Have any of you ever held a loved dog (pet) while it was killed? Did you enjoy that kill?

Proably the biggest apples to Oranges comparison I've ever seen on this site.

Why?

I believe that necessary killings fall into the same basic category which is why I had other references in my post and not just the pet reference. To put a pet out of any particular misery it may be in(old age, crippled, etc.)it is necessary to kill it. To eat my chickens it is necessary to kill them. To eat a deer it is necessary to kill it. Did I enjoy killing my pet? NO. Did I enjoy killing my chickens? No. Did I enjoy enjoy killing the deer? No. When killing the deer and chickens I also didn't suffer like I did when I have had to kill a pet BUT I didn't necessarily enjoy it. When I killed the fox I didn't enjoy that either but it was him or my chickens so it was a necessary killing. Killing varmints is necessary. Do I enjoy it? No.

Some folks were saying why would we hunt if we didn't enjoy the kill. I was trying to point out that you don't need to enjoy killing to enjoy hunting and, ultimately, killing something. I could have easily said to those that enjoy killing, why not buy live animals (chickens, goats, pigs, etc.) and kill them. But I am sure I would have heard about enjoying the hunt too.

We can all enjoy the hunt and eating the animals we hunt but some of us don't necessarily get that rush when we kill something. Doesn't mean we should hunt with paintballs ;).

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I would not have any bad feelings about putting a bullet in a child molersters head, does that make me bad?

Gary I wont debate this with you......but I will say I don't think you've thought this through. If you have.....I'd be surprised.

Nobody said anythig about feeling bad (afterwards). Would you "enjoy" it whie you were doing it?

I don't need to know the answer to that.

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ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
I believe that necessary killings fall into the same basic category which is why I had other references in my post and not just the pet reference. To put a pet out of any particular misery it may be in(old age, crippled, etc.)it is necessary to kill it. To eat my chickens it is necessary to kill them. To eat a deer it is necessary to kill it. Did I enjoy killing my pet? NO. Did I enjoy killing my chickens? No. Did I enjoy enjoy killing the deer? No. When killing the deer and chickens I also didn't suffer like I did when I have had to kill a pet BUT I didn't necessarily enjoy it. When I killed the fox I didn't enjoy that either but it was him or my chickens so it was a necessary killing. Killing varmints is necessary. Do I enjoy it? No.

Some folks were saying why would we hunt if we didn't enjoy the kill. I was trying to point out that you don't need to enjoy killing to enjoy hunting and, ultimately, killing something. I could have easily said to those that enjoy killing, why not buy live animals (chickens, goats, pigs, etc.) and kill them. But I am sure I would have heard about enjoying the hunt too.

We can all enjoy the hunt and eating the animals we hunt but some of us don't necessarily get that rush when we kill something. Doesn't mean we should hunt with paintballs ;).

I understand where you're coming from now, and I can relate. When I was growing up my parents had chickens and even rabbits for a while. I hated it when I had to kill them, but it had to be done. I've never had to have one of my dogs put down, but I have had to hold one of my beagles as it died from a snakebite. Just so you know, I understand and respect your views on this. They just differ from mine a little... that's all.;)

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I could have easily said to those that enjoy killing, why not buy live animals (chickens, goats, pigs, etc.) and kill them. But I am sure I would have heard about enjoying the hunt too.

The context of the question was, "the kill part of the bowhunt" ...... it NEVER was, "Killing" ........and the paintball analogy fits, IF you have another way of getting venison or you prefer beef over venison .... noone has yet to comment on that ...