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Swift Arrow 04-29-2008 03:15 PM

How much is this expense?
 
Say that I wanted to start my own Outfitter out West for Elk, deer, and black beer. How much does it cost to pay a certified guide with experience to help with my business? Do they get a certain percentage and/or salary?

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oakcreek 04-29-2008 05:21 PM

RE: How much is this expense?
 
When i work for any other outfitters i'll make $1000 per week

Swift Arrow 04-29-2008 11:06 PM

RE: How much is this expense?
 
Yeah, if it would be ok with your friends and your father to share it, than I would not mind looking at the plan at all, thanks. So is that 55-60k annually just for deer and turkey? I do not get it?

I was thinking about starting an outfitter guide service out west preferrably in Western Montana. I would hunt Elk, Mulies, Whitetail, and Black Bear. I need some experience so I figured I would learn while I am out there for a few years while I have dedicated and experienced guides working for me. I would like a 5 bedroom/5 bath ranch to be used during the hunting seasons for 5 day hunting packages. In the off months I would like to use it as a vacation spot for family vacations, horse back rides and trout fishing. I already have a lot more in mind but I think you get the idea. For start up I will probably have to get a loan for over 2,000,000 to buy and take over a prime ranch on a few thousand acres with rights to so many mileson national forest or state land.

Swift Arrow 04-29-2008 11:07 PM

RE: How much is this expense?
 
Which seasons, what states, and does that make a percentage or include tips? Thanks

moosehunter21 04-30-2008 12:04 AM

RE: How much is this expense?
 
Personaly I think its a HUGE endeavour and you might be getting in over your head. If you do go ahead with the plans Good Luck! and dont forget to tell us so we get a HNI discount!!! LOL

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FOP23 04-30-2008 07:14 AM

RE: How much is this expense?
 

ORIGINAL: Swift Arrow

For start up I will probably have to get a loan for over 2,000,000 to buy and take over a prime ranch on a few thousand acres with rights to so many mileson national forest or state land.
Given today's economy, I'm not sure banks/savings and loans are writing those kinds of checks. What type of equity to you have to back a loan like that?

LKNCHOPPERS 04-30-2008 07:27 AM

RE: How much is this expense?
 
I think you will be at a huge disavantage owing that much money and having that kind of overhead. I would plan on doing everything yourself because you like doing it, not hiring people to do what you can do.

oakcreek 04-30-2008 07:39 AM

RE: How much is this expense?
 

ORIGINAL: Swift Arrow

Which seasons, what states, and does that make a percentage or include tips? Thanks
I guide in Manitoba for deer and bear and it doesn't come from a percentage or include tips.Tips should never see the owners hand.If you trying to figure out what it would cost for a wage pay a hourly wage just doesn't work well (imo) base there pay on a daily bases x number of dollars per day for the entire hunt 10 day hunt pay for 10 not just days hunted.
If this is your dream don't let anyone tell you it can't be done, there's lots of ups and downs just look ahead and keep on going.


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