It's far less "urban" than one would think, really. I'll post a photo at the bottom of this post.

I saw WAY more bucks with corn NOT in those fields (already harvested). They go to the same places to eat.....(ag fields).....whether it's corn or beans....but the beans stay in the field a lot longer. So....in theory....they need other food sources (either IN my hunting area....i.e. mast crops....or outside my hunting area....but still need to travel through my area to get there) sooner....when corn is planted. I hope that makes sense. It's "logical", to me.

Illegal, here....THANK GOD! I can't imagine what it would be like with dogs running through the sanctuary.....and hunters lining the outside.

Interesting to say the least. I guess this season will tell the tale.

IN the little urban plot that jeff is hunting it is very possible, now if it was on a 150 acre track or bigger, that wont happen as often, but in small plots the dominant buck will have one area to himself, the others will only be passerbys that will get run out. I saw this big time on one of my plots. Only 10 acres and one big deer, I shot him, three days later a new dominant buck showed up and is running the place now.

Guys....there's over a square mile of woods in the interior of my hunting area.......with not a single, occupieddwelling on it.

I'll post up a photo in a few of the area I speak of. They have PLENTY of room.....PLENTY of sanctuary.

The large arrow head shaped "traingle" in the center of this photo is the land I speak of......and every deer I hunt has the run of this entire area....and I assume they use most of it at varying times throughout the year.

Again, I say pressure. If you're hunting 40+ times a year in a small tract like that, you're sure to push animals out or force them to move at night, either way the result to the hunter is the same - you don't see them. You admitted you also saw less does. You admitted you were "more intrusive" this season. That's spells too much pressure.

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Fair assessment, Sooner. I accept that......and chalk it up to doing what I thought needed doing. It's a catch-22.

I live about 1/4 mile from Mr. Poachy McPoacherson and his toofless gang. Yeah......they venture abound from time to time.

Once I see a buck once and let him go, I never expect to see him again. Since 90% of the bucks I do pass are 1.5 year olds, I don't think there is any way I could tell if I ever saw them again.

I think yinz are making a big deal out of nothing.

IMO it is your herd adapting to the pressure that you have put on them over the last two years.... That is A LOT of sits for one chunk of land, especially land that only serves as a travel corridor and does not provide them with any of their daily needs.....[/align][/align]No matter how careful you are, outside the rut it would be awfully hard to get away with that much intrusion and expect to see 2.5+ year old bucks.... [/align][/align]Once you start hunting these other tracts, many of the questions you have pondered will start answering themselves thru new experiences.[/align]

Gotta hunt them edges and let em come to you.

That's all I CAN hunt, LT.