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Your take on game cameras?
Does anyone feel like they educate deer and turkeys? I can defiantly see this happening, however I do believe with the right approach it could be eliminated (scent reduction, the correct entry and exit). Anyone have any experiences with this? I do think that if they are used right, they are a tremendous tool to the hunter.
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RE: Your take on game cameras?
They educate them alright. My pics went way down from what they were when I 1st had it out. If they can see it, hear it or even smell it thats enough right there to keep some bucks or even doe's from walking that same direct path. I've seen it in the snow where they will walk 20' further around the camera to avoid it.
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Yep definitly affected my area last season. I will now only use them on the fringes of my hunting area instead of tracking all through it just to get to them. These 2 guys disappeared on me after messing with them.
I also put some blame on another hunter he also kind of screwed the land up by the time Nov rolled around. ![]() ![]() |
RE: Your take on game cameras?
I think it depends on how you use your cameras. Two years ago we hung a camera in a new spot around the 1st of Nov. A guy hunted that stand about week and half later and shot a great 163" 10 the first hour on the stand. He pulled the camera and we had 13 pictures of that same buck. If you check your cameras alot and leave them in the same location, I think you educate them. Before season, I normally have my cameras on food plots and field edges and only check them maybe 1 time amonth. During season, I will hang them in areas that I am not hunting much and only check them/get them when I go in to hunt that area.
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RE: Your take on game cameras?
I think it depends on how you use your cameras. If you check your cameras alot and leave them in the same location, I think you educate them. I will hang them in areas that I am not hunting much I don't put trail cameras where I want to hunt. I put mine on my mineral site....and use it only for inventory purposes. Look at it this way.... If you put your trail camera out where you hunt.....that deer doesn't care whether your checking your camera.......hanging a stand.....clearing shooting lanes.....or scouting. ALL he knows is.....you've intruded his house, AGAIN. So....do they get educated? I'm sure they do. Are the cameras doing it? Hell no. WE ARE. |
RE: Your take on game cameras?
Jeff,
Agreed, on all accounts. Drop, good points as well! Everyone, IMO, very good points! |
RE: Your take on game cameras?
if you leave them in one location for too long, then yes
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I'm too lazy to put mine too far from the ATV path :D So for me, they don't hunt my areas b/c they are nowhere near my stands...
I love my cameras, but they can be a pain in the butt! :) |
RE: Your take on game cameras?
I would think if you left them there long enough the deer would just get used to them like everything else. They seem to only respond to things that are new or different. I really don't think deer are that smart, just paranoid as all get out.
My take on game cameras though is they way too expensive and I can't afford them.;) Paul |
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If you hang them out of trees I dont think you will do as much damage as far as educating them! Hang'um up high and point them down toward your trail!:D
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ORIGINAL: DropTine249 if you leave them in one location for too long, then yes Think about it like this: if there is something infront of the camera that the deer not only want, but instinctivly seek out, like food or minerals, they will come. If you put a camera over it for a few days, its a new and unusual thing to the deer. Once the camera has been there for some time, deer get used to it and deem it a non-threat. Same thing as a ladder stand, feeder, farm equipment..etc.... Deer will tolerate human scent to a certain degree. The deer on my main piece, I can drive right up to and talk to them...They dont care, they see a human in the field, they move down the field a bit, including mature bucks. You walk into the woods, they just walk away from you. So, having a camera set up in an area that deer are used to seeing combines, harrows, discs, trucks, feeders, people...its not going to spook them off. |
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RE: Your take on game cameras?
However..if you place a camera on a trail, a deer can just use another trail. I guess in TRUE farm country, or wilderness, deer are alot less likely to tolerate human intrusion. I still think it boils down to leaving scent and being detected while one checks his/her camera. |
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I use them before the season for 2-4 weeks on corn only scoutingfor the largest concentration of bucks. Then iput them up for theyear.
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RE: Your take on game cameras?
In my area, since ive used cameras for 5 years now, the deer are pretty used to them. Especially on bait piles or mineral licks.
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One other thing I hunt a pretty rural area lots of houses and people. SO human scent does not really bother them that much!
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ORIGINAL: GMMAT However..if you place a camera on a trail, a deer can just use another trail. I guess in TRUE farm country, or wilderness, deer are alot less likely to tolerate human intrusion. I still think it boils down to leaving scent and being detected while one checks his/her camera. the KEY imo...is scent control....don't go in early, but go in when the deer will not be in that area...get in and get out quiet and SCENT FREE as possible....if the deer don't know you have been there besides something on a tree making a noise and flashing at them then it should be ok |
RE: Your take on game cameras?
the KEY imo...is scent control....don't go in early, but go in when the deer will not be in that area...get in and get out quiet and SCENT FREE as possible....if the deer don't know you have been there besides something on a tree making a noise and flashing at them then it should be ok |
RE: Your take on game cameras?
Yes they can and will spook some animals whether it be from the noise, flash or human odor or a combination of variables. Then again all critters are not created equal. What one deer my associate as dangerous another may not...
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In my experience mature deer only tolerate cameras. I was getting a dozen pictures a week of two4.5 year old bucksall summer. Late august came around and they lost thier velvet I nevergot them on cameraagain.
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ORIGINAL: twildasin One other thing I hunt a pretty rural area lots of houses and people. SO human scent does not really bother them that much! |
RE: Your take on game cameras?
I think they may educate deer, but more than likely they just educate the kids of the guy that's selling them. He gets another book at some Ivy League college with every cameral purchased.[8D]
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RE: Your take on game cameras?
To be honest, I am a minority owner in a realatively new business venture that had produced an outstanding new camera that is well worth looking at. It's the SmartScouter (http://smartscouter.com/ssDefault.aspx) and I think it is very worth your while to check it out. It allows for remote viewing of your cam pics from a personal computer or cell phone. You never have to disturb your hunting area and possibly contaminate it with human scent not to mention the time, effort and cost associated with checking your cameras. I think this camera is the next logical advancement in game scouting technology. It's available directly from SmartScouter.com and will also be in the next Cabelas due out at the end of April as well as the upcoming archery catalog. L@@K!!
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RE: Your take on game cameras?
Mid-Vermont- While your camera looks pretty high tech it does appear to be very expensive not to mention the wireless needs. What wireless networks do you use to transmit the pics? Do you also have a coverage map that shows the areas where this cam will transmit the pictures from? To my knowledge there are still a lot of areas that are using analog or have weak digital coverage throughout much of the land we hunt in this country.
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RE: Your take on game cameras?
Hey racewayking,
To answer your question, Smart Scouter currently sends pictures over the Sprint network and its roaming partners such as Verizon and Alltel. With its updated roaming agreements, Sprint has the largest cellular network in the country. There is a coverage map on the SmartScouter.com website. Also, the SmartScouter can be used as a regular digital scouting camera where no coverage is available.If you buy a SmartScouter and a wireless plan and then you find that you do not have coverage, you can return the camera.....but as you probably know, more and more areas of the country currently lacking cellular coverageare getting coverage each and every month.Lastly, the wireless plan does not have to be active all year long. You can choose to de-activate the plan for certain months of the year to save money.....but there are many other cost savings benefits to the technology as well....see the website SmartScouter.com Thanks............. ![]() |
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RE: Your take on game cameras?
Ahh....this is great! I don't put trail cameras where I want to hunt. I put mine on my mineral site....and use it only for inventory purposes. Look at it this way.... If you put your trail camera out where you hunt.....that deer doesn't care whether your checking your camera.......hanging a stand.....clearing shooting lanes.....or scouting. ALL he knows is.....you've intruded his house, AGAIN. So....do they get educated? I'm sure they do. Are the cameras doing it? Hell no. WE ARE. |
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