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Old 03-22-2008 | 09:30 AM
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Do you believe you have an inventory of the bucks that will be there this season?
I believe you would have an idea of what's on the property. It would be naive and arrogant to think you know every single buck on the property.
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Old 03-22-2008 | 09:33 AM
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Again this one depends on so many factors.. available food sources.. competition for does.. preferred bedding areas.. it really is different from one piece of land to the next.

Younger bucks that of 1.5 - 2.5 yrs. have much larger home ranges generally and may be there on your trailcam one year and gone the next.. dispersing several miles sometimes. The older bucks (3.5 or older) tend to have smaller home ranges and are more likely to stick around.. so to speak. But again this is greatly effected by many other factors.

I see this very thing every year while shed hunting. Certain bucks (usually of the 3.5 class or above) seem to really find an area they prefer (and although smaller.. still kinda large in size) while I get the sheds off of almost an entirely different group of 1.5 and 2.5 yr. old bucks every year. The 1.5 and 2.5 almost disappear for me from one year to the next.

Not to mention the rut.. when deer do travel when searching for companionship. Many factors play huge roles in how you want to look at this all.
I think lends to my theory that on smaller properties....it's gonna be RARE for a big boy to go undetected for A season or SEASONS. Unless it's the rut.....I just don't think they venture that far out. So....unless I have access to him in his home range/core.....chances are I'm not gonna see him in the areas I DO have access to.
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Old 03-22-2008 | 12:38 PM
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i would say that you know a lot of them but definitely not all
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Old 03-22-2008 | 02:52 PM
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Let's narrow your area down to 40 acres. Half timber/foodsource, the other half thicket/bedding. Now do you think (during pre-rut, rut, and post-rut) you will see the majority of the bucks on that parcel? Whether they be visiting or that is their home range/core.

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Old 03-22-2008 | 03:08 PM
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Absolute not, I have been hunting the same farm since 1995 an there are different bucks that show up every year. I know of one that was never seen in the daylight an I'm sure there are still more.
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Old 03-22-2008 | 03:10 PM
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Forty acres might be a little different but they still travel quite a bit as long as they are not cutoff some way.
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Old 03-22-2008 | 03:32 PM
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Original:Shultzy
can say this that these camera's do not pick up every buck in the woods. The 140 incher I shot this last fall was never on camera, we had them out for 2 months previous to me shooting him. I'm pretty sure our 130 acres he calls home to. It just goes to show you never ever really know exactly what you got in your woods, one would be surprised if they really knew!
I couldn't agree more. Younger bucks (2.5 or less) can easily be patterned and can be found about 50% of the time,if you have a mind to. I usually see a high percent of 3.5 yo deer 2-4 times a season. A mature deer.....I'll usually never see but once,if at all. I am confident that the big boys live right under our noses, but have adapted through age and experience to go virtually undetected 98.9% of the time.

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I think lends to my theory that on smaller properties....it's gonna be RARE for a big boy to go undetected for A season or SEASONS. Unless it's the rut.....I just don't think they venture that far out. So....unless I have access to him in his home range/core.....chances are I'm not gonna see him in the areas I DO have access to.
Oh Grasshopper, .........nevermind.
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Old 03-22-2008 | 03:32 PM
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i would say you see over half of the bucks, but not all of them
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Old 03-22-2008 | 04:17 PM
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My guess is probably 50% of all deer have been seen.
The other 50% I couldn't tell you about??!!
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Old 03-22-2008 | 04:37 PM
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Not exactly.You'd have an idea but not all of them. Many will leave and move to establish their own home range when sparring and rutting starts. Mostly yearlings involved. Many from outside will come in to establish a range in your woods. Depends on the size of your woods too.
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