Even if you did......
03-20-2008, 07:43 AM
#31
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: May 2005
Location: One mile east of West Podunk Tx
Posts: 5,973
RE: Even if you did......
I think the results would be different. I have been bowhunting for 3 years now with some degree of success. I have killed several deer, all were fairly immature though. I believe I would do better on better land but I don't think I could consistantly kill BIG bucks with my level of experience. GregH, lets find out! I'll save some vacation time for November 
, what do ya think?
Honestly I think I'll need a few more years chasing deer to get the experience, knowledge, and skill level some other members like you have reached.
, what do ya think?Honestly I think I'll need a few more years chasing deer to get the experience, knowledge, and skill level some other members like you have reached.
03-20-2008, 07:46 AM
#33
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dover, PA USA
Posts: 5,497
RE: Even if you did......
Let me explain it this way.........I bowhunted PA for (at the time) 20 seasons and never SAW a P&Y caliber deer in all those years from stand. NEVER SAW ONE.
I leased a farm in West Central (Scott Co.) IL in 2004 and after 1/2 day of low impact scouting, I hung a stand and had an 18 yard opportunity at an honest 160" 10pt. (I spooked the doe that was with him and blew it but that's beside the point
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I saw multiple P&Y bucks, passed 3 that would have been my largest to date and really should have gotten it done first day in.
Luck? Coincidnece? Location?
There really is a direct relationship to location and success, especially for the people with any skills. It's undeniable.
A person with 1/2a head on his shoulders might not hammer them first year in a new quality location, there are subtle patterns etc that get refined over the years but you gotta hunt where they are.
I leased a farm in West Central (Scott Co.) IL in 2004 and after 1/2 day of low impact scouting, I hung a stand and had an 18 yard opportunity at an honest 160" 10pt. (I spooked the doe that was with him and blew it but that's beside the point
)I saw multiple P&Y bucks, passed 3 that would have been my largest to date and really should have gotten it done first day in.
Luck? Coincidnece? Location?
There really is a direct relationship to location and success, especially for the people with any skills. It's undeniable.
A person with 1/2a head on his shoulders might not hammer them first year in a new quality location, there are subtle patterns etc that get refined over the years but you gotta hunt where they are.
03-20-2008, 07:47 AM
#34
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Minnesota
Posts: 9,445
RE: Even if you did......
Hell no Greg!! A perfect example would be me going up to Canada where Dan does his guiding. I guarantee my luck compared to his luck would be night and day!! I've got some good knowledge on these whitetails but huntingDans area compared to my area would be like almost starting all over again and learning a new way to hunt. He's got the huge big woods, I have my little farm parcels here and there. I'm guessing it might take me 4 to 5 years to get an idea of what I got to do to score on some of these big bucks. I have no problem saying I may not have the success that the owner does on his land, thats just plain ridiculous if you think you can match up with anyone on there land in a given time. Some could probably do this but not many in my opinion. It takes time to learn these big boys, it takes even more time to get them in front of you (specially on someone else's land)
03-20-2008, 07:50 AM
#35
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Posts: 21,043
RE: Even if you did......
If I went down my you Jeff I would think my chance would be great at getting a deer as opposed to you coming up here.
You definatly have the numbers down by you.
You definatly have the numbers down by you.
The entire premise was.....Where would you hunt......if you HAD to kill a P&Y?
We're not talking about killing "A" deer. We're talking about killing a P&Y buck.
So....in that regard.....YOU DEFINITELY have the numbers up by YOU
I wouldn't feel threatened AT ALL if someone made a post asking.....
"Whose woods would you most like to hunt .....if you HAD to kill 5 deer this fall?"
If my name got picked on that one.....I'd know why
I'm just asking the same question.....only using a P&Y buck as the intended quarry.
03-20-2008, 07:51 AM
#36
Bartender
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 6,634
RE: Even if you did......
Yes I agree pal when it comes to P&Y I would stay up here.
I didnt see that in greg's original post.
I also think with all the killing of doe's during the season which has you going in and out of your property so much the ones that might be there scatter out.
Possible?
T
I didnt see that in greg's original post.
I also think with all the killing of doe's during the season which has you going in and out of your property so much the ones that might be there scatter out.
Possible?
T
03-20-2008, 07:55 AM
#37
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: North Lima Ohio & Clarion Pa
Posts: 6,453
RE: Even if you did......
ORIGINAL: GregH
Even if you were able to hunt someone elses (HNIer) spot, could you really expect the same results? Why or why not!
Even if you were able to hunt someone elses (HNIer) spot, could you really expect the same results? Why or why not!
03-20-2008, 08:00 AM
#39
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Oct 2005
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RE: Even if you did......
GR8.....If this thread wasn't in direct response to the one I posted recently.....I apologize. If it was....I stand by my answers....because that WAS the premise (had to kill a P&Y buck).
And if it wasn't.......it's a pretty bold statement to say that you do things so much better than anyone who could come to your woods......which is why I posted this on page 1. It would be like saying.....
Again....nothing wrong with that.....if that's what you believe.
This was the original question from the other post....and the inference was made....
And if it wasn't.......it's a pretty bold statement to say that you do things so much better than anyone who could come to your woods......which is why I posted this on page 1. It would be like saying.....
To think otherwise......is kind of like saying....."I kill more/bigger deer.....not because they're more plentiful.....or because I have better odds.......no....it's because I'm a better hunter than you".
Isn't it???
Isn't it???
This was the original question from the other post....and the inference was made....
If (edited)BILL JORDAN called down to you and told you that you needed to kill a P&Y deer this year.....or he was (edited) BANISHING YOU TO LAKE OCOCHOBEE TO HUNT OUT THE REST OF YOUR DEER HUNTING DAYS.......
............Who's woods (HNI'er) would you want to hunt?
Can't hunt with 'em......or ask them questions......and they won't be hunting there. You'd have access to what they have access to.
............Who's woods (HNI'er) would you want to hunt?
Can't hunt with 'em......or ask them questions......and they won't be hunting there. You'd have access to what they have access to.