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I don't know where in this thread you found me saying anything about 60 degrees either. I think you're talking about another thread where me and a guy were talking about angled shots with the grim reaper. Stop mixing up the threads, you're not helping by complicating things! :D;)

RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
 

A steady 15mph wind is something I hunt in and I'm sure you do too. It is not something to "worry" about but it can cause some additional arrow steer. The point I'm making here is that a mechanical will reduce that steer and it is why I want to shoot mechanicals next year.

RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
 

I also practice in those conditions.

I shoot a heavy arrow.

I've yet to have my arrow drift enough that I would worry about wounding an animal inside of 30 yards.

RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
 

I tune bow.
I tune arrows.
I tune bow and arrows togeather.
I practice.
I shoot good.
I shoot Snuffers (fixed) deer die, Dead, Dead!

No like mechanicals.
Wait all year for shot.
No open on impact.
Open in flight.
No risk one shot!

RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
 

There was a video posted here a while back where someone tested the accuracy of quite a few broad heads, both mechanical and fixed out of a tuned bow set in a hooter shooter (or something like that) The point is the shooting machine took all humaninteraction out of he shot. The results were quite surprising to say the least.Now before I go on, I don't know what their definition of "tuned bow" is so keep that in mind when reading the results. I hope someone can find that video because most of this is from my memory. I think the main point was they got the bow to put field tip arrows shot multiple times into the same hole. They used that as their constant and tested the different broad heads against that criteria.

Even out of a "tuned bow"shot from a machine that was zeroed with a fieldpoints.....NO fixed broad head shot the same....NONE. Some were as much as 5 inches off the mark! Not even the mechanicals shot exactly the same although overall they were closer than any of the fixed heads andone (might have been the Rage or Snyper) was very very close. Below is the list, I'm pretty sure I got them all right (I wrote the results down on a piece of paper) Some broad heads I've never heard of, most I have.

Fixed:
Nitron-1.34 inches off
Montec-2.2 inches off
Muzzy3 blade-2.98 inches off
Sonic-1.61 inches off
Rocky Mountain Turbo-1.78 inches off
Apache-5.85 inches off
Vortex Mini Max- 3.20 inches off
Eastons-2.98 inches off

Mechanical:
Spitfires-1.34 inches off
Tekan-1.01 inches off
Snyper/Rage-.74 inches off
First Cut ST3-.96 inches off
Hyper Shock- 1.20 inches off


To sum up.....A mechanical head will indeed shoot closer to field tips (we all pretty much knew that)and there's no guaranteeany of your broad heads will shoot the same as your field tips not even from a well tuned bow....you can get them close but they might not hit the same.Now you can (and should) tune yourbow till they get both to shoot close(This is what I do)but in the end it's very difficult to get them to shoot the exact same. When I shot my Montecs and Rages together I could not notice a difference in my hits between them and my field tips, to me theyall shot to my point of aim.HOWEVER, I can't put all my arrows in the same hole time after time (and I suspect not very many can) so the only way to truly determine if they are the same is to put my bow into a shooting machine and test them together.....I suspect the results would show they are off. By how much, I don't know but I'm sure they wouldn't be the same.


What's this all have to do with the subject of this thread....not much but it's relevant.

RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
 

BigJ has spoken. Does anyone have a problem with that? Didn't think so! :D

Hey John, here's the video you were talking about: http://www.prorelease.com/xring.aspx?action=1

You are right because it isthe casethat nothing truly flies exactly like a field point. There are laws of physics that BH's just can't get around just like you and I can't get around gravity. That very video in fact is what helped fuel my quest for best possible arrow flight in all conditions. I think I may attempt some tuning tweaks this summer but overall the bow is shooting very nicely even though I have arrows that aren't perfectly spined. That will change come fall.

I want all the advantage I can getbecause I'm not the best shot (2" groups at 25).Considering all the things that can go wrong in the woods like unseen twigs, a sudden gust of wind, and the adrenalin rush, I'm trying to do whatever it takes to put a few more odds in my favor. I think the chances ofa goodmechanical not opening is less than the chances of arrow steer in less than ideal conditions. Given the R&D'dtechnology we have today, I put enough trust in tried and true companies with a loyal fan base.

Thanks for all your input.

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HH,
You're absolutely right. Sorry 'bout that. I actually did get the threads mixed up last night.[&o] I'm usually a little "sharper" than that. It's been a tiring week so far.:D

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Hang in there Chief!;) Its understandable after everything you went through.

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Dude just shot whatever makes you feel the most confident. Pick something and practice practice practiceand show us some after pictures... :-)

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Don't blame the BH for hitting it in the shoulder, you need to look in the mirror.

A fixed blade, for the most part, wouldn't have done any better in the shoulder.

Also, mechanicals need to be put into 2 categories: Rear opening and the old style mechanicals which are over the top (jacknife) style.