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RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
ORIGINAL: Hoytail Hunter ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer ORIGINAL: Hoytail Hunter 1) It flies more like a field point. This becomes even more crucial in higher crosswind situations. A fixed blade has between 2-4 "fins" catching wind and steering the darn thing where you don't want it to go. This can mean the difference between a deer recovered or lost. What you and others are right about though is that even though the BH might miss a branch, the fletching wont. Well, now instead of a ratio, I have 2 reasons to use a rear deploy mechanical. First, cutting diameter like you mentioned, and second- it flies moreso like a fieldpoint and is less susceptible to steer. For the guys that keep saying a fixed BH can fly like a fieldpoint as in fly in the same path as a FP... I'm not arguing that it can't. I know a fixed BH can fly like a FP if tuned right. I'm saying that a fixed BH is more likely to steer. |
RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
I ever tell you my father told me that waa whooo in indian meant wrong hole?
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RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
ORIGINAL: Hoytail Hunter The bigger broadhead is more likely to steer because it has more steering surface. That being said, I shoot Grim Reapers..... for the cutting surface.... more than 2 inches actually. One other thing. Have you actually held a Grim Reaper in your hand? The point extends past the closed blades by 9/16". That's one of the design advantages of the Reaper. I could take a quartering away shot at a 45 degree angle and the point would penetrate well before the blades made contact. I don't know where you got 60 degrees. I'll tell ya something else.... if you just screw on a mech without spinning it, it'll steer you off target too... especially at 300 something feet per second. I found that out too. |
RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
Guys,
I believe this one could go on for ever but I couldn't resist throwing my 02 in. I have been using mechanical'sfor the last 10+ years and have never lost an animal b/c of a broadhead, as amatter of fact I have recovered a couple that I wouldn't have been able to due to the cutting width being much bigger. As for making a mistake and hitting one in the shoulder, I have done this too but it was on a big hog with a pretty thick shield and my broadhead was not reusable but due to the blades being able to flex some the arrowhit the bone and continued through the animal. I believe that if you have confidence in your abilities and your equipment you will have successful results. Iagree with the above statements that you will not be able to slip one through some branches or any where else you couldn't shoot with afixed blade, you still have to take ethical shots and know your limitations. |
RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
mechanical vs fixed/ my experiences
I use rocket hammerheads for turkeys & they work very well, they suck for deer. in 07 I used 2 blade rage,they fly very well, make very impressive cuts but you guys can have them. my reasons are/ Im constantly relocking the blades in the quiver the o rings drie out & crack/replace ,thats more annoyance than needed @ 12.00$ per on the positive side, I took 3 deer with the same head before the screw broke...the blades resharpened easily blood trails were very good after 20 yds but nil initally...? I know lots of hunters believe in expandables but I tend to lean in the fixed direction,I have personally seen a lot of failure from expandables, not to say there are not good ones out there/ guess im just an old fart. last yr was an experiment for me , had to check out all the hype on the rage... 4 deer ,all dead. good head overall, but issues Ill not deal with this yr. spent 10 yrs with 3 blade muzzys, no complaints until I started shooting 320 fps. very strong design, reasonably priced over 40 deer to their credit/ some bent blades but no failures. this yr ? maybe g5s , will see after a gobbler or 2 |
RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer ORIGINAL: Hoytail Hunter Absolutely sure about absolutely false? You're telling me that a BH that is 1/2 inch in flight is as likely to steer as a 1 3/8 fixed BH? So a 6" hood scoop can catch as much air as a 12" hood scoop? I cannot believe this. The bigger broadhead is more likely to steer because it has more steering surface. There's no argument about that. and if you think ALL mechanicals fly like field points out of ALL bows, your solely mistaken as well. It's not the heads so much as the bow, arrows (together) and indian behind it. What I said simply was that if there is less blade to steer the BH, there will be less steer. It's a basic law of physics. That's it, that's all I'm saying.This is slowly becoming a different conversation than I intended. |
RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
ORIGINAL: slp1245 If your bow is tuned properly you should have no problems with the fixed blades. If you are still having problems getting them to fly consistent, then you may want to change to a different style of fletching. If you make a slight mistake and hit a 200# deer in the shoulder with a mech. you will regret it the rest of your hunting career. I personally feel that as hunters we are being irresponsible when we choose to shoot mech. Just my opinion. |
RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
I'm not trying to be difficult but I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. The question you're answering is not the question I'm asking it seems. You are exactly right out of untuned bow, mechanicals are a bandaid for this. [blockquote]quote: and if you think ALL mechanicals fly like field points out of ALL bows, your solely mistaken as well. It's not the heads so much as the bow, arrows (together) and indian behind it. [/blockquote]See, (small tangent here) I think that the reason why threads go on and on all the time is because sometimes, what people type and what they mean are two different things. Couple that with other people's various interpretations of thematerial and you've got a mess. I try my hardest to type what I mean. I mean exactly what I type too coincidentally. I don't think ALL mechanicals fly like FP's out of ALL bows. I never typed such a thing. What I said simply was that if there is less blade to steer the BH, there will be less steer. It's a basic law of physics. That's it, that's all I'm saying.This is slowly becoming a different conversation than I intended. |
RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
ORIGINAL: rybohunter For the guys that keep saying a fixed BH can fly like a fieldpoint as in fly in the same path as a FP... I'm not arguing that it can't. I know a fixed BH can fly like a FP if tuned right. I'm saying that a fixed BH is more likely to steer. |
RE: Do you want the odds in your favor?
ORIGINAL: Hoytail Hunter ORIGINAL: rybohunter For the guys that keep saying a fixed BH can fly like a fieldpoint as in fly in the same path as a FP... I'm not arguing that it can't. I know a fixed BH can fly like a FP if tuned right. I'm saying that a fixed BH is more likely to steer. Just curious. |
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