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Vabowman 03-20-2008 04:57 AM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
I couldn't get the Meanv cuz he said he didn't have oneto fit my PSE 6" brace. He was honest from the start and didn't try to sell me something else, he just said what he had and told me to shop around. I bought a Norway string tamer and it works fine. I have not heard any bad complaints about a Meanv or about Dan himself. I have bought a few things from him and it was a pleasure doing business with him and I will keep going to him for things I can't get around here. I highly recomend any of you to look him up if you are having trouble finding help.

craitchky 04-01-2008 11:15 AM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
Just recieved my "Hoyt Specific" STS. I must say that I am very dissapointed with how the mounting block was machined. On the side of the riser that the mounting block mounts to, there is a triangle shaped depresion, and while the is a coresponding shaped nub on the end of the mounting block, the block does not fit beacause the block seems to have been machined about 90 degrees off. I was able to fix this with my trusty Dremel tool, but for $60 bucks, it should fit better.

Rick


DeerStalker80 04-01-2008 12:45 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
I had a sts on my diamond but I am going with the MeanV on my guardian. The sts is uglier than sin

BigJ71 04-01-2008 03:11 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
I just posted a thread on how to make your own....give it a look. Might just save you some money.;)

PABuck_HNTR 04-01-2008 05:00 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

I just posted a thread on how to make your own....give it a look. Might just save you some money.
Have you figured out the dipping process?

treboryerf 04-01-2008 05:32 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
I got a mean v and luv it and it works great.

Ben / PA 04-01-2008 06:21 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
I had a Mean V on my last bow that I sold and when the new one comes in, the first thing I will do is measure for Dan to make me another one. I won't have a bow without one. I will also be buying one as a present for a buddy of mine. Great product, great price, great service.

Kelly/KY 04-01-2008 08:28 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
I replaced my STS with the MeanV and could not be happier. It looks better and performs better. Thanks Dan.

Kelly

BigJ71 04-01-2008 10:06 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

ORIGINAL: PABuck_HNTR


I just posted a thread on how to make your own....give it a look. Might just save you some money.
Have you figured out the dipping process?
I didn't know it was the "dipping" that did all the suppressing.....thanks for enlightening me.:D

Seriously.....some folks aren't all "hung up" on matching camo and for them there is a far cheaper way to make the same thing. I was just showing how you can build your own for far less money.

No doubt both of these products are high quality components and both will do the job their supposed to do.....camo dipping or not.;)

PABuck_HNTR 04-02-2008 04:20 AM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

didn't know it was the "dipping" that did all the suppressing.....thanks for enlightening me.:D

Seriously.....some folks aren't all "hung up" on matching camo and for them there is a far cheaper way to make the same thing. I was just showing how you can build your own for far less money.

No doubt both of these products are high quality components and both will do the job their supposed to do.....camo dipping or not

I guess I find it amazing that guys will spend 800.00 plus for a bow then load it up with "cheaper" accessories. No doubt your suppressor the MeanV and String Tamer ect.. do the job their are intended to do. I'm sure some guys will take this post as helpful and some will take it as a jab at another member.

BigJ71 04-02-2008 01:33 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

ORIGINAL: PABuck_HNTR


didn't know it was the "dipping" that did all the suppressing.....thanks for enlightening me.:D

Seriously.....some folks aren't all "hung up" on matching camo and for them there is a far cheaper way to make the same thing. I was just showing how you can build your own for far less money.

No doubt both of these products are high quality components and both will do the job their supposed to do.....camo dipping or not

I guess I find it amazing that guys will spend 800.00 plus for a bow then load it up with "cheaper" accessories. No doubt your suppressor the MeanV and String Tamer ect.. do the job their are intended to do. I'm sure some guys will take this post as helpful and some will take it as a jab at another member.
How in the hell is my post a jab at another member???? I'd LOVE to hear this........

Also how is my suppressor "cheaper"? It may have cost meless to makethan it wouldhave to purchase other suppressors on the market but I can guarantee it's not "cheaper", I used the same materials!

quiksilver 04-02-2008 01:39 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
I knowJohn well enough to assure you that he wasn't taking a *jab* at another member. All the guy did was show everyone a cost-effective and easy way to fabricate their own string suppressor at home. Johnny's a good egg, and I'd go to bat for him anyday.

I can assure you that there was no malicious intent in his post - but I guess you're free to interpret it however you like.

HuntingBry 04-02-2008 01:41 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

ORIGINAL: quiksilver

I knowJohn well enough to assure you that he wasn't taking a *jab* at another member. All the guy did was show everyone a cost-effective and easy way to fabricate their own string suppressor at home. Johnny's a good egg, and I'd go to bat for him anyday.

I can assure you that there was no malicious intent in his post - but I guess you're free to interpret it however you like.
Besides if John wants to take a "jab" at another member it's likely to leave an imprint of that other member in the wall.;)

Seriously, BigJ's just trying to pass along some info for those of us that like to tinker and be do it yourselfers. No ill-will intended I'm sure.

bloodcrick 04-02-2008 02:46 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
MeanV :)

BowHuntingFool 04-02-2008 02:55 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
Neither!:)

TeeJay 04-02-2008 03:38 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
The V

PABuck_HNTR 04-03-2008 04:12 AM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

How in the hell is my post a jab at another member???? I'd LOVE to hear this........

Why you getting so upset?


Also how is my suppressor "cheaper"? It may have cost meless to makethan it wouldhave to purchase other suppressors on the market but I can guarantee it's not "cheaper", I used the same materials!
Exactly..... And you posted in in public in 2 different threads to make sure everyone saw it. That's the jab.Although your post is helpful to alot of guys, it also has a different effect on one other guy. It should have been given outin PM's in my opinion.

BigJ71 04-03-2008 10:14 AM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

ORIGINAL: PABuck_HNTR


How in the hell is my post a jab at another member???? I'd LOVE to hear this........

Why you getting so upset?


Also how is my suppressor "cheaper"? It may have cost meless to makethan it wouldhave to purchase other suppressors on the market but I can guarantee it's not "cheaper", I used the same materials!
Exactly..... And you posted in in public in 2 different threads to make sure everyone saw it. That's the jab.Although your post is helpful to alot of guys, it also has a different effect on one other guy. It should have been given outin PM's in my opinion.
BS!

It's a "jab" because I found a way to make a string suppressor for less than what retailers are selling them for?? Are you kidding me!

You better look out, Gibblet is making string sets that are cheaper than the Vapor Trail sets MeanV sells.....is HE taking a "Jab" because EVERYBODY knows his sets are cheaper?

Why do I have the feeling if I had made a wrist sling instead of a suppressor we wouldn't be having this conversation.:eek:Hey I applaud your loyalty to Dan but you're out of line here. There is NOTHING wrong with me trying to help other archers out by showing them how to make a comparable suppressor for less money...whoops....there I go again.:eek:

Just how in the hell did my post have a "different effect on one other guy"??? The last time I checked MeanV wasn't the ONLY one making suppressors....Nice of you to throw STS under the bus! Truth is you don't give a rats rear end about STS or any other suppressor maker,if you did you would have included them in your senseless rant. No, YOU made this about MeanV. I like Dan'ssuppressors better than the STS ones and if I were to purchase one it would be his.

I'm not manufacturing suppressors and I'm not trying to undercut other peoples business PA, All I did was find a way to build one with common archery items and passed it along to fellow archers...Hell it wasn't even that tough to figure out, anyone with the IQ of a postage stamp can see how their made.

I don'tthink for one second that my "DIY" project will effect MeanV or STS orANY other suppressor manufacturer's salesin any way...get a clue. What's next PA, are you going to go after all those folks who make their own bow components?....You better hurry then, because LostInWoods just posted about a stabilizer he built........Wait, I guess he's safe because MeanV doesn't makethose.:eek::eek:

PABuck HNTR, you OBVIOUSLY have an agenda here, it's quite clear to see. You're trying to make this into something that it's not. I found a way to build a suppressor and have passed it along to others who are looking for ideas. This thread IS ABOUT SUPPRESSORS therefore it only makes sense that the folks who open and read it are interested in them in one way or the other so I posted about my build here......simple.

quiksilver 04-03-2008 10:32 AM

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Somebody just got SERVED.




in da woods 04-03-2008 10:39 AM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
I have a mean V supressor. Amazing difference, as to how it made the bow quieter. Mean V v.s. suppressor, they do the same thing. I like the more stream-lined look, of Mean V's & the color matches the bow.

BowHuntingFool 04-03-2008 12:12 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 


ORIGINAL: quiksilver

Somebody just got SERVED.



The King speaks the truth!

I go on 2 other sites where they have Resource-How To forums that are as cool as it gets. Build your own anything, if you think you can, some take pride in making something for themselves! I wish HNI had a How to forum!

HuntingBry 04-03-2008 01:06 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

ORIGINAL: BowHuntingFool


ORIGINAL: quiksilver

Somebody just got SERVED.



The King speaks the truth!

I go on 2 other sites where they have Resource-How To forums that are as cool as it gets. Build your own anything, if you think you can, some take pride in making something for themselves! I wish HNI had a How to forum!
That's a great idea. I would love to see that. I really enjoyed the thread about making your own lighted nocks and made 3 of them even though they won't fit any of the arrows I shoot LOL.

As far as suppressors go, I really like MeanV's and the one that John showed us how to make is cool too. I'd probably try it if I didn't already have a MeanV.

ozbowhunter 04-03-2008 01:09 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
if i could have ordered a meanv i would have but unfortunatly dan doesnt make them to fit my bow (low brace height) so i went with a string tamer and it works great but first choice was meanv

BigDaddy12t 04-03-2008 03:53 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Joel,

A string suppressor serves a few different functions... It's a device that is usually (when applicable) attached to the rear stabilizer bushing and stretches back to make contact with the string at brace.

Upon firing the bow, the suppressor serves to stop the string from going past brace (though it will obviously above or below at some point), thus enabling the shooter to wear bulkier clothing in the winter and not be as subject to "wrist slap" or, in this case, "clothing slap."

Its main functionality and benefit that has garnered accolades from legions of fans is both its vibration-reducing and, more especially, its sound-dampening abilities. Some also claim a "cleaner" release as well -- the concept being that the string doesn't oscillate beyond brace at the shot and "pull" at the arrow as it tries to release itself from the string. Those proponents have often claimed picking up a few extra fps as a result of that.

Now... for the question at hand.

I first started using MeanV suppressors before I had any idea of who Dan was as a person. I simply thought they looked MUCH cleaner than the blocky STS version. (And I say "version" for a reason; contrary to what the company would have you believe, they do NOT have exclusive rights to the concept -- and they were NOT the originators of the concept. Heck, I've still got a much-older version of a suppressor in my home archery shop still in its package made by Saunders called the Deadly Quiet. I had one of Saunders' supressors on my very first bow when I took my first deer and turkey...)

I like the idea of a custom-fit, dipped-to-match suppressor offering much cleaner aesthetics with top-notch performance and exemplary customer service. MeanV suppressors and Dan's feedback on his customer service have garnered somewhere near 30,000 responses across various internet boards -- with something like a 99.99% positive rating.

I've got a MeanV on every bow I own that doesn't come from the factory with its own suppressor.
Ok, I have a question, I just bought a 2005 Hoyt Vtec, and it does not have the threads to screw it into on the back side of whee the stabilizer screws in. So how do you mount one to a bow that s like this?

PABuck_HNTR 04-03-2008 05:09 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

PABuck HNTR, you OBVIOUSLY have an agenda here, it's quite clear to see.
What might that be?Come on! I can't have an opinion? Why you getting so defensive?

You've got a couple guys who feel the need to defend you. I felt the need to do the same. Seems alot of people have some sort of issue with MeanV for some reason. My point is that you started your own thread about your discovery. Why did you feel the need to post it again in a thread comparing the MeanV to the STS?

Whatever I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you. No need to. I said my peace and you got all upset. I can't help that.
But it wasn't my goal.




Somebody just got SERVED
WOW I really like how you used those colored letters and alternated the 2. Pretty darn talented. You really are the King.

BigJ71 04-03-2008 08:40 PM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

ORIGINAL: PABuck_HNTR

You've got a couple guys who feel the need to defend you. I felt the need to do the same. Seems alot of people have some sort of issue with MeanV for some reason. My point is that you started your own thread about your discovery. Why did you feel the need to post it again in a thread comparing the MeanV to the STS?
I don't need anyone to defend me....I've done NOTHING that needs defending. You OBVIOUSLY (again) have a problem with what I posted....you even went as far as to say I took a "jab" at a particular person and nothing could be further from the truth. How in the hell are you "defending" MeanV??? what are you defending him from??

Check the dates of my posts captain obvious...I posted here FIRST!!! I didn't start my thread until AFTER I originally posted here.


Whatever I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you. No need to. I said my peace and you got all upset. I can't help that.
But it wasn't my goal.
I didn't get upset because you said "your peace" I'm upset because your "peace" is full of misinformation and biased. You felt the need to try to belittle my "DIY" project first with your oh so subtle comment about camo dipping...Do I need to quote you?....Didn't think so.

Bottom line....this is a PUBLIC forum. I broke no rules posting what I did, in fact what I posted is SUPPOSEDLY what this forum is all about hunters sharing information with other hunters. That's what I did, I shared information on how to make a string suppressor with pretty much the same materials as other manufacturers yet at a cost far less and you had a problem with it......Well you know what, to frickin bad.....deal with it! Am I pissed off??? You're frickin right I am!





GMMAT 04-04-2008 06:03 AM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

quote:

ORIGINAL: quiksilver

Somebody just got SERVED.



LOL:D:D:D

GR8atta2d 04-04-2008 06:20 AM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

Ok, I have a question, I just bought a 2005 Hoyt Vtec, and it does not have the threads to screw it into on the back side of whee the stabilizer screws in. So how do you mount one to a bow that s like this?
BigDaddy, I know that STS makes one the screws into the Front (stabilizer hole) and extends back from there. I don't know if others make one like that, but I do know that STS does. I would imagine that it's counter bored to still allow use of a Stabilizer (?).

bawanajim 04-04-2008 06:24 AM

RE: Mean V or STS
 
Sounds like we got one more for the 09 antelope hunt.
Who's bunking with BigJ ?[:o]

Greg / MO 04-04-2008 06:42 AM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

Ok, I have a question, I just bought a 2005 Hoyt Vtec, and it does not have the threads to screw it into on the back side of whee the stabilizer screws in. So how do you mount one to a bow that s like this?
As far as I know, the only option for a bow that doesn't have a rear stabilizer bushing is to go with a front-mount STS; someone correct me if I've missed another product out there that I'm unaware of.

HuntingBry 04-04-2008 06:55 AM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

ORIGINAL: PABuck_HNTR


You've got a couple guys who feel the need to defend you. I felt the need to do the same.
Nobody felt the need to defend anyone. You made a helpful tip all aboutMeanV and his business somehow getting hurt and in turn took a "jab" at someone else who is trying to be helpful. Nobody put MeanV down, but you felt the need to defend him, and none of the other many suppressor manufacturers that John tip may or may not affect. Why just defend the one guy? Dan's a good guy, but nobody's bashing him. No need to defend.

This is another case of the clique mentality that gets so old around here.

quiksilver 04-04-2008 07:02 AM

RE: Mean V or STS
 

ORIGINAL: PABuck_HNTR

Somebody just got SERVED

WOW I really like how you used those colored letters and alternated the 2. Pretty darn talented. You really are the King.
I really thought the alternating color scheme accentuated the picture of all the people serving you.


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