Corrective Bowsights for poor vision?
 

I am a right handed shooter but unfortunately I have astigmatism in my right eye also that is only able to be corrected to about 20/50. I though I shoot really well I sure would like a clearer picture. I have seen devivces called clarifiers and verifiers offered by on-line archery shops, does anyone know what these are? how they work, etc? or does anyone know of some other solution that may help? Thanks

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Look up Rob Pa/Bowyer on here he has one that he showed me the other day. They make a big difference!

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You may be SOL with the astigmatism, but if you have a really good shop anywhere nearby they may have the Verifier lenses made by Specialty Archery. These little gizmo's thread into their SuperBall peeps. There are about 5 different diopters so it's best to try the different ones to see which you'd need---if it'd help. They are intended for those of us who need bifocals and are looking at blurry pins.

Clarifiers lenses are intended for those who use a powerful scope and need the target cleared up. I don't know if they'd work at different distances though. Most who use them might be able to shed some light on this. Here again, different diopters so you'd need to try these as well. And again, they can be had to fit the Specialty peep.

Nice peep really. You can use all these things with lenses or just different size apertures without having to remove the peep from the string. These lenses aren't cheap at about $25 each, but well worth the money if they work. Let's face it. We can't shoot any better than we can see.

Gettin old sucks in some ways.

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Do you know of any retailers that carry their line?

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Good Post, I could use one myself. My sight pins are a little blurry and could use the help. :)

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When right eye problems occured for me I had the advantage of also being able to shoot left handed.

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Tims right, I have a verifier lens on two of my bows.

What verifiers do is magnify the pins but NOT the target. They clear up the pins that would otherwise blurr while concentrating on the target which is where you should be concentrating.

What I was finding was that (yeah I know Chad) as I age, my pins were starting to elongate/blurr when I concentrated on the target. I would find myself focusing between the target then the pins. With the verifier lens in my peep, I can concentrate on the target and my pins are now clear as well.

I don't need bifocals, I don't need glasses. I can see like a Hawk but I don't understand why my pins are starting to blur. I do however see that I'm losing my vision at very, very close distances and my right eye is worse then my left.

I bought mine at Lancaster Archery Supply, The Super Ball Peep is $21.99 and the Verifier lens' are $24.99 each. I use the weakest one, the #5 purple.

Now a Clearifier lens can only be used with scopes (lenses in your sight). The clearifier lens' do just that, clear up the picture that the scope or lens in your sight magnifies. Using a clearier in your peep without a lens in your scope/sight will cause your target to blur and appear very small.

So it's a verifier to clear the pins and a clearifier to clear the vision in the scope.

With both you'll need the Specialty Super Ball Peep Housing and then the appropriate Specialty Hunter Super Peep verifier.

http://www.lancasterarchery.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=7872&osCsid=1772e 0a6c459cfd708d2a4e59ceb2a40

http://www.lancasterarchery.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=6187&osCsid=1772e 0a6c459cfd708d2a4e59ceb2a40

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Rob,

What size is your Verifier? if and when you need a #6 maybe we could swap. I think I need a #5, but it wasn't available when I got mine. I have the 1/4" model.

For those who need more info try www.specialtyarch.com. There's so much stuff o there it will boggle the mind/ Two different size ball peeps, different colors, different angle for short or long bows, hooded or non. There's even a model that uses the dreaded rubber tube aligner.

This is the model I have with the Verifier lens. It's all that was available in 1/4" when I got mine so I just cut the attachment nipple off and use it wihout a tube. This peep is plastic whereas all the others are aluminum.

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I have the #7 verifier and it helps me.I probably could have got by with a #6 but the way my eyes are getting weak I went with the 7.It sure stopped the pin halo and double pins.I ordered mine from Keystone Country Store

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I have both a 1/8" and a 1/4" . I had owned a Super Peep that must not be available anymore. This is where I have the 1/8" verifier.

I have this peep now since I had ordered the 1/4" and it didn't fit my original Super Peep. But like Matt / PA says, the verifier is actuall 3/16" because it screws into the 1/4" adapter that fits in the Super Ball Peep.


Here is the link to the Peep: http://www.specialtyarch.com/peeps.asp

And the verifiers: http://www.specialtyarch.com/verifiers.asp

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Bgfisher and oldreloader, When you buy reading glasses what level of magnification do you get....1.25, 1.50 or 1.75?

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Anyone else use these verifiers?

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My regular glasses are carrying a +2.00, but I'm about to go to a +2.250. I can get alng with a +1.75 working on the computer.

When I got my Verifier lens a few years ago the lowest diopter was a #6. It was still a little too much. I haven't used it for a couple years and my eyes have changed (for the worse) so now it might work now. I just got a new bow a couple days ago so now I can try it out.

Another reason it didn't work so well is that I got the Super Hunter model because that's the only peep that handled the 1/4" lens and it has an angle of 37 degrees which was too acute for my string angle. Again, I now have a bow that is shorter so it might work. If it doesn't then I'll get the hooded Ball Peep with a 42 degree angle and try that.

This is why I say that you need to try these things at a shop. The peeps themselves come in 45, 42, and 37 degree angles. Depending on your draw length and A2A of the bow you have to choose the right peep angle. With something like a 29" draw and short bow you may need one with a sharper angle so it's perpendicular to your eye at full draw.

I hope this is clear to you. I'm trying to give you information you can use so you look at all your options.

Barry

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You could possibly be right. The lens itself very well may be 3/16". I never actually measured it. I just knew, after trying the 1/8" that I needed something bigger to pass more light through.

I don't know how old your eyes are or how bad your eyes are, but for several years now I've been looking through my peep and seeing 3 fiber optic dots per pin. One is where it should be. Then there are two others (halo). One at 4 o'clock and one at 7 o'clock. Couple that with astigmatism and I get some really ugly shots on a 3D target once in a while. Like I'll aim really well and make a good shot at 28 yards and the arrow hits 6-8" to the left.

My distance vision isn't really all that bad. 20/40 in my aiming eye, but I think the astigmatism is what gets me the most. I can judge distance pretty well. Rarely more than 2 yards off, but I just can't see to aim.

And there's always that disturbing fact of trying to shoot a Vegas face with a green pin. It just doesn't happen, but I think even good eyes have problems with that. I starting to think about getting a lens for myHoggitt (spelling) sight and use a ring in it. Just trying to figure out what size ring would work for 3D. Maybe something that encompasses about 4" at 20 yards.

Sorry to get off topic some, but it might lead others to find a setup that works.

Barry

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BGfisher, I have a 2008 Martin Cheetah with a 26" draw length. Yesterday. I talked to Specialty Archery and they suggested the #5 verifier since my reading glasses are 1.50. The only peep thatverifier would fit was the 1/4" hooded 42 degree angled peep. Do you think this will work with my setup?

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Geronimo, that's what I'm using, a #5 1/4" Hooded Super Peep, I think you'll like the setup!

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Cool.....