It's degenerate. I stick with 60# as it it still over the recommended kinetic energy by like 15 ft lbs(correct me?) of what is needed to kill a Brown bear. BTW; I would still be shooting 70# bowsif it weren't for Huntnet and Archerytalk and what I have learned. Try reading up on the subject instead of remaining ignorant on the subject; that's what these forums are for.

I thought you were going trad this year anyway, Jeff?

I am....until I take one with it. Then I'll hunt with both.

Are you ganna stick a Rage on the other end of the cedar?

Just checkin'.

No...I spelled it incorrectly....but I meant Denigrate.

So anwer my question.....instead of continuing to denigrate (which has ALWAYS been your M.O. when faced with anyone who disagrees with your POV).

Should we all just shoot the minimum KE required? What's wrong with overkill? If a camaro's good .....isn't a corvette "great"?

Ok lets relate this to the vette imo....

60lbs on an 82nd Airborne- Youve got a 2008 Chevy Corvette pushing 430HP And 424ft lbs. of torque Starting @ $43,000

70lbs on an 82nd Airborne- YOuve got a 2008 chevy Corvette ZO6 pushing 505HP and 470ft. lbs. of torque Starting @ $72,000

Youve got all the power your ever gonna need in a standard coupe(60lb), but if you got the money and can handle the power(draw cycle) then go for the ZO6. And of course you think you can handle the power until you wrap it around a tree or have a shoulder replacement.

Ive yet to see a bow that we can compare the NEW 2009 Chevy Corvette ZR1 that will be pushing OVER 600HP!! From the factory! Come on Bowtech!!

Answer: Shoot as quiet as bow as you can with the required kinetic energy plus a little extra. Low poundage bows are quieter and quiet is more of a virtue than kinetic energy overkill.Jeff, are you going to ever hunt anything bigger than a NC small bodied fragile whitetail?

Honest to God, Don......you are laughable.

What....in God's name.....is your motive for putting down the animals a man hunts? What could be your agenda? Answerme that. I'm curious.

And for the record....I'll likely hunt 4 states in '08.

He drives a Ford