RE: The Heavier the Better??
 

I think im better off going light all the way around for the fact of the range and field edges i hunt. Im honestly not scared tomake a longshot, as long as i know the exact yardage and conditions are perfect.

RE: The Heavier the Better??
 

Dan, can you please describe how you got the FMJs to that weight with that FOC? I am currently shooting ACCs, but have considered switching to FMJs and would like to have flexibility in building them.

Thanks

RE: The Heavier the Better??
 

For 3D the rules are simple: Shoot the fastest arrow that you can shoot without compromising accuracy, or in the case of speed restricted shoots (such as ASA) shoot the most forgiving bow / set upthat will get you the speed you need (Generally 280fps + 3%).

For Hunting, I tend to usually fall somewhere in between the 2. I like a hunting arrow in the 290fps range regardless of what bow I am shooting or what draw weight. I will tailor the arrow to fit the bow and give me something in the mid 290's. That's my comfort zone and find that generally means a more midweight arrow that gives me a quieter shot than a more extreme 3D set-up would but still a nice flat trajectory to reasonable hunting distances.

RE: The Heavier the Better??
 

I would suspect he used 100gr brass inserts.

RE: The Heavier the Better??
 

My 3-d arrows are going to be around 325ish
My hunting arrows currently weight 375.

Ill be shooting the Ally this year at [email protected]"

Do I need to mend anything to this projected setup??

RE: The Heavier the Better??
 

The FMJ's I built have wraps and 3" feathers on the back. The front is tipped with a 125 grain Slick Trick Mag screwed into a brass HIT insert. I also use the BAR although they only weigh 3 grains. On my ACC's I use the PDP inserts with screw in weights to get my FOC where I want it. I tell you those FMJ's pack a punch!! I wander how much KE they wouldhave coming out of my Airborne 82?? I find it funny most guys either like light or heavy arrows. I myself will float back and forth depending on Game and the type of area I am hunting. no different than using a different bullet depending on what you were going after;)

Dan

RE: The Heavier the Better??
 

Agreed. I use a much lighter arrow with a smaller FOC on rabbits, squirrels, etc. The only "big game" I hunt is whitetail deer although I would like to go bear and elkhunting someday. I'll figure that arrow out when/if the time comes though LOL ;):D.

RE: The Heavier the Better??
 

Thanks Dan! I didn't realize there were brass HIT inserts. I've been tailoring my ACC weights with weight tubes and add in weights for the inserts, but knew that the weight tubes wouldn't be necessary for the FMJs, but worried about FOC with the HIT inserts. You've made me a very happy man. Now I can get the FMJs with Eastons Tracer nocks which I've been dying to try and use brass HIT inserts to customize my FOC. The money is as good as spent.

My wife may want to have a word with you now.;)

RE: The Heavier the Better??
 

Man, you guys know a lot more about this stuff than I do!

Bruce and GMMAT, you two are making a lot of sense and I think if my situation were the same as yours I would be doing the same thing. This discussion is making me wish I could have 2 set-ups. One for treestand hunting whitetails, and one for when I am going spot & stalk. I know that I could do that, but I think in all reality I am just too lazy and stubborn[&:]

RE: The Heavier the Better??
 

A fast arrow is more forgiving of misjudged yardage, but only by a couple yards. But there is a trade off, and the shooter needs to decide if it's worth it or not. Speed is less forgiving, FACT. Gospel. The faster your arrow is flying, the more critical it is of form flaws and such....Everything is amplified. So, what you're gaining in trajectory, you could very well be losing in overall forgivness. Personal decision.

I've explained in the other thread why I'm going heavy/slower this year, no need to rehash it. The differences really are astonishing, it's not the advantage you would THINK it is.

Case in point......My light/fast arrow for hunting, I leave my pin set at 25 yards. 1" high at 20 yards, 1" low at 30. Now, with a slower/heavy arrow..... 1 1/2" high and low, respectively. Whoopidie doo.......What's an inch and a half on a deer??? Nothing. Nodda. Aim for the middle and nock 'em over with heavy....And my bow is much quieter, and.....I can be more pinpoint accurate.