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NAP Spitfires.... not that they are the best, but they work for me everytime I use them.

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Mechanical: WASP Jak-hammer in 1 1/4 cut version as been good to me, Grim Reaper razor tip has my interest
Fixed: Wasp Boss 3-blade

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I found this photo last night. This was the last shot I took this year....at a doe.

Feel free to post up photos of what your BH is doing to the animals you're shooting. If there's something out there (besides predators;)) inflicting wounds like this.....I want to be aware of it.

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LOL!! I suppose this was a broadside shot and you got penetration through both sides? What's the other side look like? I've seen rips like that before, but I haven't got time to get into that;)

Dan

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Dan:

I posted on the other thread (rage thread) exactly the scenario. I'll post it here, too.....and I couldn't care less whether you believe it or not. I have no reason to embellish. I'm actually VERY surprised when I see what these heads have done/can do. I posted a recovery photo earlier this year where the entrails of the doe were hanging out of the ENTRANCE hole (behind the last rib on a qrting shot) when I walked up on her.

If you haven't used these heads....HOW can you make intelligent remarks regarding them?

She was shot from about 18yds .....from about 23' up.

The photo above is undoctored. I shot the doe.....went home....retrieved her about 30 minutes later. Stuck her in the ATV.....drove her home.....unloaded her....and took the photo when I saw exactly what you see. Did she tear the wound open? I'm sure she did. I claim NOTHING except this is exactly what I saw.....and I photo'd it.

Here is the same doe.

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Jeff that is an incredible wound. I've considered trying the 2 blade rage. My mind is made up. I'm going to Bass Pro at lunch today. I had planned on a few new turkey diaphram callas and a new deke or two. A pack of Rages just got added to the list.
BTW, I have been shooting Muzzy and Slick Trick. I like them both and will continue to shoot them.

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Did you shoot through her? or down the side? No Pic of the opposite side?[&:]I've seen a lot of dead deer in Bowhunting 40 years and I'd venture a guess I've seen wounds from over 50 different type and model broadheads and yes a lot of mechanicals with cutsas big as the Rage. I usually have a pretty good idea what causes a wound when I see one. It's America Jeff isn't that great!! Use what you have confidence in! I Do!!;)

Dan

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Greg....

I make no claims of "incredibleness" (I know that isn't a word)......I've just been blown away (and quite frankly...SHOCKED) at some of the carnage I've seen these things inflict, this past season.

This is one of the photos I didn't post up earlier......because I don't know how to really explain it. I just know it wasn't doctored....and it wasn't THAT MUCH of an anomoly. I had a few of these occur.....and at one time erased them from my photo library ....just because.

My only claim is......THIS is what I saw. How it occurred is left to you and your imagination.

On a side note, Greg....I sure would love to be able to hunt some hogs. I hope you're getting out every once in a while.If you do try these heads (again....I have no affiliation).....please let me know what you think of their performance on hogs.....as I want to try that someday.

Thanks

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I shot through her, Dan. And if you're implying something else....why not just come out and do so? I've told you nothing but the ENTIRE story.

To be honest....the entrance side is TYPICALLY the most traumatic with these heads.....due to quartering angles. If I'd had this type of carnage on both sides...I wouldn't have taken a "harvest" photo of this deer. I posted the "harvest" photo, above. The entrance wound (though EXTREMELY devastating by most BH's standards) wasn't extremely traumatic by Rage standards. It was "typical" and is covered by my bow for aesthetics.

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Just asked;)

One of the most devastating heads I ever used was the the Mini Blaster 4L. 4 Blade expandable 1 3/4" cut. It looked like you threw a tennis ball through them.I killed between 30 or 40deer with expandables. Thelist of different model expandables is longer than I can remember accurately. Every new model that came out I had to try[8D]So I do have just a little experience in that area. One failure was too many, and 2 and I was finished. What's so new about the Rage? Synper re-runs? Just proves Arthur signature is very True:DIf you have enough Ad money you can fool all the people all the time. I wish you luck with them and hope you never experience any sort of failure.

I myself really can not see the reason for taking that risk. I have not had to track an Animal since 03. Yeah I have killed a couple;)

Dan

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I dunno? 2" cut?

And your accusation that I'm (and every other Rage user)being "fooled" is not only insulting....it's laughable.

I have nothing to gain by posting these photos. You are a dealer for Slick tricks. Both of these statments are fact.

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So is the fact I sell NAP, Muzzy's, G5, Magnus, Rocky Mountain, Wasp, and O Yeah Rage;)

It's like a guy once told me, you can buy this, or this, or this, or I'll sell you this.:DAs far as expandables goes The Spitfire XP's are one of the very best currently on the market, and will do damage equal to anything else. Then the new Griz Trick that is coming out will surpass that damage. I know I am anxious to get them in my quiver. Rage are a quality head or I wouldn't even sell them, but you can't tell me the ad money and promotion they implemented has not affected the sale of these heads? I know it has[8D]Slick Tricks have become one of the most sought out heads and with virtually zeroad campaign. Word of mouth in person and on forums. They are tough, fly great, have Super sharp blades, and cut holes like a 10 gauge. I'm not sure what else you can ask of a broahead. They also have the best customer service in the business. Gary will refund your money for any reason.

Dan

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Dan, can you explain what the failures were? Did the broadhead come apart, fail to open but you recovered the animal to know this, open in flight causing a miss, bounce off the deer (OK, the last one is sarcasm)?

I hear all the time that broadheads "fail." To me the only failures I have experienced while bowhunting have been my own. I have been fortunate to never have a true equipment failure, so I try to learn from what others have experienced.

So if you could tell us what failures you've experienced it can do nothing but help us out.

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Hey Dan:

I rarely buy anything from people who like to slap me around while I'm trying to reach for my wallet.

Have a good weekend;)

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I use NAP thunder heads "top selling broad head" only had one break so far becaus I hit a rock instead of meat or bone(have had the same pack for 3 years now)

or crimson talons(im tryin these when season rolles around

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I sometimes think companies get carried away with going bigger. There are loads of good heads out there that have been causing serious damage for years. 1.25" cd- 1.75" cd heads have been around forever but thenew 2" cut broadhead well it's all the "Rage";);). I think there is a such thing as overkill and the archery industry is flooded with it. I have no no doubt many people love the Rage head but I was turned off by the recalls, Iknow it happens and that their QA department has addressed the issues but it is still inthe back of my head. I use the Rocket Ultimate Steels and Steelhead 100'soften and they bothhave a cdthat is either 7/8 of an inch or 1"(can't quite recall for the US) and 1 1/4(for the SH 100)but they are super sharp, tough,and accurate. Every deer I have shot with them never travelled more than 75-80 yards. So because ofexperiences like that I don't really understand the necessity to go bigger unless you take or make a lot of marginal shots.

At the end of the day a lot of this stuff is personal preference and what "you" feel confident with in the woods. If the heads you are using are killing then use em' if they are not or you are woundingmore deer than you should(which would be 0 in a perfect world), switch them ifyou want tobut know this99%(completly fabricated percentage)of the time that wounded deer wasn't caused by the broadhead, it was cause by the injun behind the bow.

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I thought that was obvious. In business the reason you advertise your product is to gain more sales, dah.

Are you blaming Rage for advertising to get their name and product out there to the consumer?

I'll put it this way, if the Rage was not doing what it says it will do (flies like a FP, create huge entrance and exit wounds which makes for easy bloodtrails, have great penetration and simply create unbelievable devestation),sales wouldhave gonedown very quickly and it hasn't.

Let me start by saying I think the ST is a good head but as you stated it sells very well by word of mouth. Now I hope you understand this works both ways. If the Rage was not working as advertised (and yes they have advertised a lot)word of mouth would also work the opposite and cause the Rage to decrease in sales fairly quickly.

When you advertise as much as Rage you set yourself up for failure if it doesn't work as advertised. So in all reality advertising can work as a negative.

I absolutely love the Rage head. In my 26 years of bowhunting (the first 18 years using fixed) I have never seen a head do so much damage to an animal consistently, create such huge entrance and exitholes consistently, have such great blood trails consistently, put down animals down so quick consistently, and create room for error on your shot in case something goes wrong (we either all have done it or will happen to everyone sometime) consistently.

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I use Thunderhead Pro's, one of the most inexpensive BH's on the market, one of the most proven. I don't need huge wounds, I don't want a lot of bloody ruined meat and I'd like a hide that's worth tanning. The hide on that doe pictured above isn't worth a trip to the tannery. What a waist. If I was A perfect shot, and always chose the perfect shot angle, I wouldn't need A BH at all. A 1/8" hole in the heart would do. If I don't kill and recover an animal, it's not my BH's fault and spending more money on a different BH isn't going to help anything. You make a good shot with any BH, the critter will die. The key is making the good shot. If you hit the heart every time, you will kill every time. I have yet to see a critter hit in the heart that didn't bleed a lot. You can't buy good shot placement. To get good shot placement you need to practice. The better you are, the less BH you need.

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Fair enough wack.....but I ain't eating them parts.;)

Nor was she ever slated for there.

And I have yet to see an archer shoot 100% heart shots.

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What about what's his face from team somethingoranother from down in OK. Remember all passthrough heart shots every time. That is except for the boar that he shot between the eyes as he jumped over it.

What the heck was his name?!?![:@]