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Cougar Mag 02-11-2008 04:39 PM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
After thinking about it recently, I told my wife I don't want one. I've bowhunted since 1977 and did just fine without it. The only advantage I could see using one might be to see the actual size of something and I admit it would be fun to have pics of the deer in my area. I absolutely see no advantage using one to help me set up for shots. Legwork lets me know where I want to hunt and besides..........we all know that during the hunting season deer can and will change their habits according to pressure and crop harvest schedules.

buckmaster 02-11-2008 04:50 PM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
Ill probably using mine more, thought about maybe even buying another one too.

Germ 02-11-2008 04:56 PM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 

ORIGINAL: twildasin


ORIGINAL: Germ

BTW

I have had a no flash cuddeback in my hands 3 times now, I just could not buy it. It's not the cash[8D] I could be talk into buying one.

This is where it bugs me. I rarley watch hunting shows, but I have caught a few lately. When I see "We're hunting this spot because we caught a big buck on camera" it bugs me, and I have no idea why[:@]

I have no ill will towards anyone who uses one, I think I am a moran for not[:-]
So what are you saying? this makes no sense at all!
I have no idea:D It just bugs me, maybe because if I seen one on camera I would hunt that spot even if the wind was wrong and get sloppy.

Just a weird feeling, I really think I just need to buy one and use it, and stop being such a blank;)

dukemichaels 02-11-2008 05:06 PM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 

cameras are a valuable tool.
How are they valuable?

LouisianaTomkat 02-11-2008 05:07 PM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
Germ, you have what is known as "It's All In The Chase" phobia. LOL Seriously though, I have thought the same way before, but I got over it for one reason. I had a buck with a messed up rack that I got several pictures of around August of 05 and then when season opened, no more buck. So it's really a guess at whether or not you will actually see the buck again after you get his pic. Like others have stated, I simply like to get pics and kinda keep tabs on whether "new" animals are introduced into the herd. Just fun.

LT

LebeauHunter 02-11-2008 05:07 PM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
Germ,

Are you now one of the official HNI curmudgeons?

Next it will be cedar shafts and flint (maybe obsidian) for you. [8D]

janesburg 02-11-2008 05:13 PM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 

ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: twildasin


ORIGINAL: Germ

BTW

I have had a no flash cuddeback in my hands 3 times now, I just could not buy it. It's not the cash[8D] I could be talk into buying one.

This is where it bugs me. I rarley watch hunting shows, but I have caught a few lately. When I see "We're hunting this spot because we caught a big buck on camera" it bugs me, and I have no idea why[:@]

I have no ill will towards anyone who uses one, I think I am a moran for not[:-]
So what are you saying? this makes no sense at all!
I have no idea:D It just bugs me, maybe because if I seen one on camera I would hunt that spot even if the wind was wrong and get sloppy.

Just a weird feeling, I really think I just need to buy one and use it, and stop being such a blank;)
Go buy the camera already. Go with a Cuddeback white flash instead of IR. BTW I have alot of pictures of bucks that I have never saw while on stand. I also have saw alot of bucks on stand that I never got a picture of. I leave my camera out 24-7. I have a stand 50 yards from a camera spot and have watched deer get their picture taken.

Just because I get a picture of a nice buck doesn't make me hang my stand right above my camera. But it will tell me one passed thru even though it may have been 2 in the morning.

GregH 02-11-2008 05:30 PM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
I enjoy the cameras. I like them for the simple reason that I like seeing pictures of deer. I have never shot a deer that I got on camera. I only use them in the post season until antler drop so I don't spook them by the camera alone or by checking them. I'm superstitious when it comes to not spooking deer, any deer, close to open season. It helps me inventory does and bucks. It is especially helpful for the bucks because the 1 1/2s all look alike ;). 8 pointers are common at 1 1/2 and when they are 2 1/2, they seem to be just a bigger version of the previous year. So when I compare a 2 1/2 that I saw from my stand to a pic from last year, it helps in identifying them. Older bucks, 3 1/2 and older are easier to recognize from year to year because the shape and number of points are nearly the same, just bigger.

Cameras have not influenced how or whereI hunt. Scouting does that. I'm trying to get a pic of some of the true monsters that I know are out there, the 170 to 200 class. So far, no dice. Biggest ones I've got are 140s to 150s.

Buck Magnet 02-11-2008 05:46 PM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
I still love having mine out and running it, but last year I didn't have as much time to keep mine out. To me, I don't see them being an advantage. You have to think the area where you are setting the camera up has deer or else it would be pointless to set it up. This is where you scouting/knowledge comes in to play. You are not going to just walk in to any area and just plop a camera on a tree and get a pattern of a huge buck just like your not going to go set up a stand and have a huge buck pass by the stand on the minute every day (without some incredible luck). To me, using a game camera is pretty much the same as hunting, one I shoot them with a bow and the other I get everything set-up so my camera shoots a picture! I was actually going to go set up my Cuddeback today but being that it was 3 degrees when I woke up I decided to just pass on that idea :D

BigDaddy12t 02-11-2008 06:38 PM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
I have bow hunted for about 5 years now. The 2nd year, I went out and got 2 35 mm cameras, and used them a ton, all year round. After a couple of years, I started using them less and less. I just bought a new Moultrie Gamespy D40 for Christmas, and have had it oit for about a week now. I plan on keeping it out there all year.

GMMAT 02-12-2008 06:13 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 

I have never shot a deer that I got on camera.
That really surprises me, Greg.

GR8atta2d 02-12-2008 06:28 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
I love my camera..Hell all you guys not using them send them to me. Perhaps the caveat is I really don't use them where I hunt. I put them on local farms and usually spend the bulk of my time on public land 1/2 hour away. NOT that I have any hang-up using or benefitting from the cams.

To me it's a past-time. It's hunting well before I can hunt with a weapon. It fuels me and gets me excited.


Why don't you guys use them to scout other new areas?

aeroslinger 02-12-2008 06:58 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
I love game cameras. I get a lot of pics of different animals, different times, interaction with other animals. Its not as fun as hunting but I get a lot of enjoyment just checking and viewing the pics. I've been hunting a very small bit of land and would highly recommend for small areas. I've never had one until last year and I really enjoyed it.

Double Creek 02-12-2008 07:44 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
They are getting to be a pain in the butt to deal with, however, I enjoy them and I don't put them in the areas I hunt. I buy, develop, and sell hunting land, so having pictures helps with the sale... ;)

thehairlessone 02-12-2008 07:58 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
i just put my I40 out. I think it is going to be great. I dont see a click as being a big deal. If anything it should get the deer to stop and pose for their photo.

rick


LebeauHunter 02-12-2008 08:07 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
I-40 rocks. Your gonna like it hairless.

Battery life has been 3 months or so (but we don't have really low temps), and it takes great pics.

One tip on those things to minimize disturbance. Since SD cards are cheap (got some on sale for $10),
I have 2 for each cam. Instead of hooking the cam to your laptop to transfer, or taking out the SD
and spending a lot of time there, or taking the SD home with you and then back, just swap out the SD
cards and get out of there.

NEW61375 02-12-2008 08:10 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
Has anyone else ever tried mounting your cameras high and angling them down towards the trail. I have never really noticed a problem with spooking deer but I can't help but think they at least notice a disturbance. I am mounting some higher in the tree (10-12 feet) and angling them down, might not help but at least itisn't flashing them directly in the eye from 3 ft away, I know that would bother me on a dark night.

GregH 02-12-2008 08:12 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 

ORIGINAL: LebeauHunter

I-40 rocks. Your gonna like it hairless.

Battery life has been 3 months or so (but we don't have really low temps), and it takes great pics.

One tip on those things to minimize disturbance. Since SD cards are cheap (got some on sale for $10),
I have 2 for each cam. Instead of hooking the cam to your laptop to transfer, or taking out the SD
and spending a lot of time there, or taking the SD home with you and then back, just swap out the SD
cards and get out of there.
I used to swap out cards but now I have the Cuddeback card reader and it's just about as fast plus I can look at the pics as I'm walking to the next camera.

GregH 02-12-2008 08:14 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 

ORIGINAL: NEW61375

Has anyone else ever tried mounting your cameras high and angling them down towards the trail. I have never really noticed a problem with spooking deer but I can't help but think they at least notice a disturbance. I am mounting some higher in the tree (10-12 feet) and angling them down, might not help but at least itisn't flashing them directly in the eye from 3 ft away, I know that would bother me on a dark night.

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ORIGINAL: GregH


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ORIGINAL: HuntingBry

Germ, to answer your question about the Moultrie I40 yes it does take color daylight pics. I just got it this year, and I've been very happy with it.

Greg, if you ever jump back in here, I have a question for you. You have mentioned a number of times that deer, particularly mature bucks, will start skirting you camera within a short period of time regardless of whether it is IR or flash. I am assuming you know they are skirting them because you can see the tracks going around the camera. I would be interested to see what would happen in your area if you simply put a camera out, but left it off. If the deer start skirting it without it off we can rule out both the flash and the IR as what bothers the deer, as well as the noise. If they don't we can assume it is most likely the flash. It may seem to be a foolish experiment, but I know I'd eagerly anticipate the answer. What do you think?
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1) I get 2 full months battery life on my Cudde's in the cold (-12) weather along with taking 30 sec video with each pic.

2) I know they are skirting the cameras by the tracks in the snow.

3) They really notice the camera when it's mounted to a real skinny tree (profiled). They are looking at it when their pic is taken in the daylight.

I'm going to try a couple of things.

1) Camo the camera.
2) Put the camera up high and angle it downward.
3) Last resort...... stop taking night time pics.

I really don't want to do #3, because during the time I have my cameras out, there are periods where almost all of the deer activity is night time. I experience this several times from end of Nov to end of March. I'd miss out on a lot of big bucks doing this.
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Greg I do this and it works real well! I hang mine over a trail from a tree limb facing down. I try to put it like 10 feet off the ground. Great for catching tresspassers too.
From a different thread.

GMMAT 02-12-2008 08:21 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 

I used to swap out cards but now I have the Cuddeback card reader and it's just about as fast plus I can look at the pics as I'm walking to the next camera.
But aren't you still swapping out cards? Or does it download them to the device. THAT is cool.

NEW61375 02-12-2008 08:21 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 

ORIGINAL: GregH


ORIGINAL: NEW61375

Has anyone else ever tried mounting your cameras high and angling them down towards the trail. I have never really noticed a problem with spooking deer but I can't help but think they at least notice a disturbance. I am mounting some higher in the tree (10-12 feet) and angling them down, might not help but at least itisn't flashing them directly in the eye from 3 ft away, I know that would bother me on a dark night.


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ORIGINAL: GregH



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ORIGINAL: HuntingBry

Germ, to answer your question about the Moultrie I40 yes it does take color daylight pics. I just got it this year, and I've been very happy with it.

Greg, if you ever jump back in here, I have a question for you. You have mentioned a number of times that deer, particularly mature bucks, will start skirting you camera within a short period of time regardless of whether it is IR or flash. I am assuming you know they are skirting them because you can see the tracks going around the camera. I would be interested to see what would happen in your area if you simply put a camera out, but left it off. If the deer start skirting it without it off we can rule out both the flash and the IR as what bothers the deer, as well as the noise. If they don't we can assume it is most likely the flash. It may seem to be a foolish experiment, but I know I'd eagerly anticipate the answer. What do you think?
[/blockquote]

1) I get 2 full months battery life on my Cudde's in the cold (-12) weather along with taking 30 sec video with each pic.

2) I know they are skirting the cameras by the tracks in the snow.

3) They really notice the camera when it's mounted to a real skinny tree (profiled). They are looking at it when their pic is taken in the daylight.

I'm going to try a couple of things.

1) Camo the camera.
2) Put the camera up high and angle it downward.
3) Last resort...... stop taking night time pics.

I really don't want to do #3, because during the time I have my cameras out, there are periods where almost all of the deer activity is night time. I experience this several times from end of Nov to end of March. I'd miss out on a lot of big bucks doing this.
[/blockquote]

Greg I do this and it works real well! I hang mine over a trail from a tree limb facing down. I try to put it like 10 feet off the ground. Great for catching tresspassers too.
From a different thread.
Good stuff.

GregH 02-12-2008 08:26 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


I used to swap out cards but now I have the Cuddeback card reader and it's just about as fast plus I can look at the pics as I'm walking to the next camera.
But aren't you still swapping out cards? Or does it download them to the device. THAT is cool.
Downloads them to a 1G card, deletes the camera card, replace it in the camera and go. It only takes a few seconds. The LCD screen is kind of small but you can zoom it, then scroll it to where you want to look. Kind of cool.

GMMAT 02-12-2008 08:28 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
That is cool. If you looked at it like you'd save money on the cards (extras).....it would quickly pay for itself.

IL_ray_phillips 02-12-2008 09:13 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
Tried it but dont know if it spooked them any less!



5575gb 02-12-2008 09:43 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
Each to his own I guess.
There's no doubt you can ruin a spot by going there checking them all the time. I myself really like them, especially with the price of gas now days.
I hunt allot of public land spread out over a 200 mile area, the cameras save me quite a bit of money on gas. I put out 10-20 stands and I like knowing
I'm hunting an area that harbors a buck worth going after. Rather than waisting my time and money in a place I may have seen a buck but it has movedand is no longer in the area.
And now with these new cameras I can leave them out for a month and they still have good battery power left.

It's your choice, but the main thing is your out hunting supporting our sport!

125py 02-12-2008 10:04 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
i love my cameras and will cotinue to use them, and maybe get another one. They have not hurt my hunting any, as i have saw more 3.5 yr olds and older this year than i ever have! Have they helped my hunting...dont know but they are a lot of fun!

Schultzy 02-12-2008 10:30 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 

ORIGINAL: GregH


ORIGINAL: GMMAT


I used to swap out cards but now I have the Cuddeback card reader and it's just about as fast plus I can look at the pics as I'm walking to the next camera.
But aren't you still swapping out cards? Or does it download them to the device. THAT is cool.
Downloads them to a 1G card, deletes the camera card, replace it in the camera and go. It only takes a few seconds. The LCD screen is kind of small but you can zoom it, then scroll it to where you want to look. Kind of cool.
I have one too Greg, I use mine when I'm in Northern Minnesota bear hunting being we have no computer up there. They are nice, I wish the picture quality was a little better though but they do the job.

Siman08/OH 02-12-2008 10:42 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
I have been using cameras in my area since 2003 so most of the deer are used to them. And i usually end up putting them on the same trees when i move them around so its not much of a change to the animals.

GR8atta2d 02-12-2008 11:01 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
Does anybody have one of them cams that emails you the pic in realtime?? Jeff thats right up your alley or Guys Like Mike Hunsucker or W??Todd. Those would be really cool! ANYONE??

Schultzy 02-12-2008 11:15 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 

ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d

Does anybody have one of them cams that emails you the pic in realtime?? Jeff thats right up your alley or Guys Like Mike Hunsucker or W??Todd. Those would be really cool! ANYONE??
Actually they are not legal if used in a hunting situation to enter a buck in P@Y .

GR8atta2d 02-12-2008 11:45 AM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 

Actually they are not legal if used in a hunting situation to enter a buck in P@Y .


;)



huntingson 02-12-2008 12:40 PM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 

ORIGINAL: dukemichaels

How are they valuable?
They are valuable to me simplybyproviding me someentertainment. I love watching deer, seeing deer, whatever, and the cameras just give me more chances to see them. Now that I finally have my own farm it is very rewarding to me just to get some photos of deer that are on my land. I don't care if they are bucks, does, fawns, or whatever. Obviously, this is just MO and what I enjoy. They give me something to look forward to. I get to wonder things like "I wonder if I will get any bucks in velvet", "I wonder how far along antler frowth is", "I wonder how many does had twins and/or triplets", "Is that split browtine buck still around", "Is that little bodied spike still alive" and so on. It is just a good time for me, my dad and my neighbor to share our pictures.

LKNCHOPPERS 02-12-2008 12:59 PM

RE: Anybody going away from trail cams?
 
I will keep using mine. I like to see what is out there and it helps me eliminate some bad spots. The deer are in pretty low numbers here.


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