RE: *EVIDENCE* IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

i have two ir cam's and i also have photos of them looking at it. but i feel it's more of a filter noise than flash

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

He may have picked up your scent on the camera. I wouldn't be too quick to draw any conclusion.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

it all depends on the situation, simple as that. I ahve had a buck (MATURE) that would score 160 or so and he just hung around my camera all night, didn't even care, then I have had some gobonkers when they see a falsh, I just think it depends on the buck and the factors that surround it.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Here's a scared buck from an ir camera.

Didn't take him long to get to gettin.

side note: Their is no audible filter noise from this camera.



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RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Mystigue? Jeff, weren't you the guy who went on and on about how mature bucks are "different" Didn't you nickname "your" buck "The Bull" I'm sorry but you seem hypocritical here.

Face it your experience is limited in comparison. You have had success in your first two years......congrats. Consistently killing mature whitetails you have not done.Not many have. Greg has.

No, deer hunting is not rocket science, but it also is not what you make it out to be in many cases. If it's no that challenging to you anymore.....after 2 years........whyare you still hunting with $1,000+ state of the art equiptment? Why not take a step back an challenge yourself? Go traditional? Hunt from the ground?

As for the thread, it appears that Mature Bucks do get spooked even with IR. I think Greg's method makesa lot of sense.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Gus I'm simply tired of my "perceived" lack of "experience" being thrown in my face every time I have a differing opinion (that's usually backed by facts) on ANYTHING to do with bowhunting. Gotta admit I get that a lot from a few.

NO. Hunting mature bucks isn't "easy".......but it's NOT rocket science. I'm not tooting my horn in ANY fashion. I'm doing QUITE the opposite if you look at it, objectively. The two years I've been hunting is constantly thrown in my face......but how have I taken two of these creatures as such an inexperienced newbie if it's so hard? Can't have it both ways.....and it just gets old time after time.

Either it's an accomplishment.....or itisn't. I don't care which waypeople look at it......but you can't have it both ways. Easy? OK.....I can live with that. Accomplishment? I canlive with that, too. Matters not, to me.

Oh....and BTW....I WILL take a deer with traditional equipment this fall before my compound ever sees the woods. Part of challenging myself.;)

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Guys with these IR cameras, can you shut off the night picture feature?

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Yes you can, on my cudde no flash I could set the times I wanted it to be active. It's called a time lapse mode.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Do you like your cuddy back? I look at one at the deer show that had a bulit in LCD color screen for about the same price.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

2 years of experience in the deer woods is just that.......2 years. Just like anything else in life it takes time to see the entire picture. Success in your first two years is one thing. Being successful for 10-15 years is another that's all. Honestly Jeff, you bring a lot of this on yourself.I killed my first mature buck when I was 15, but I learn more about whitetail behavior when I havehad slow seasonsraking and scrapingjust to get a glimpse of one.


Who knows? Luck? Untouched area? Hard work? Skill? There could be a number of reasons. 2 years imo is not long enough time to determine one or discredit another. That's my point.


An accomplishment...yes. Easy.....no. 2 years is still not a guage either way.

Great. I hope to do the same thing one day. I've been at this for 17 years and I still have a lot to learn before I feel comfortable making the switch;).

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Germ the cudde I had was hell on batteries. I got a week's worth of life out of about $10 worth of batteries.

I get 4 weeks life out of a $6 6V battery in my Moultrie. It's why I sold the Cudde.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

I know 4 guys w/ cudde's, and they get about 3 months out of a set of batteries.....Unless they have it set to take nothing but video, which is obviously going to use up bats quicker.....

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

http://www.moultriefeeders.com/catalog.aspx?catid=infraredgamecameras

Does it take color pictures during the day?

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

WOW this really suprises me hell mine will last 2 months on the same set of batteries Jeff. As a matter of fact I put mine out in December and its still shooting pictures on the same set of batteries. Thats one of there selling points. Did you call customer care? Or did you just sell it?

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Twil I sold it. I was hugely disappointed in it. "D" Batteries ain't cheap......and I promise mine would go through a set in 1 week.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

I would be willing to ship you my no flash and give it a try. I bet you use one set of batteries in a couple months. Not saying yours did not burn them up but i think there was something wrong with it. Let me know the offer is there. I should be a salesman.:D

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Well Jeff you must of had a melon then. My batteries last about 2 months. I get about 500 pics and 500 40 second videos out of mine. Thats quality in any camera. The pics are of very high quality in these cuddebacks! The only bad thing I've had was a moisture problem once. Hands down they are a kick ass camera with unbelievably high quality pics with out all them white spots on the moultre pics!!

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

You guys are making me more mental:D Well I am buying one, just do not know which one yet

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Could very well be, Schultzy.....but I'm getting 120 pics (+/-) in one weekend. I'm happy for ya!

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

I like mine allot Germ! I wish they had a built in viewer on the cuddes but most of the built in viewers on these others the picture is so small and poor picture quality you can't see them very good any way.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

yeah i am not sure about deer being spooked by IR. i have had plenty of pics of curious deer right up in its face

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Obviously the more pictures and video's it takes the more the battery's will get used up.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Point conceded, Schultzy.....but the Moultrie battery lasted 4 times longer (1 battery life cycle). That's my point.

And....for the price difference....and battery life issue.....I can live with the photos. I can still tell these photos are of the same buck (day and night photos).

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

I understand you Jeff, your 100% right! What I'm trying to get at is that the better quality pictures your camera takes the more the battery's will get used up. Thats why the cudde's battery's don't usually last as long as the Moultre's battery's. Some have told me that the Moultre's don't do very well in the cold weather at all. The Moultre I'm sure is an excellent camera for what it cost, no dought I'm sure!

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

What do I know about cold weather? I live in NC!:D

Coldest I've hunted in is 14 degrees.....but that's RARE.

Also....duly noted on the cold weather......I ONLY have my cams up in the Summer. You're probably right.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Its just what I was told, it don't matter to me what brand name he's got. If a guy likes his camera thats all that matters!;)

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Germ, to answer your question about the Moultrie I40 yes it does take color daylight pics. I just got it this year, and I've been very happy with it.

Greg, if you ever jump back in here, I have a question for you. You have mentioned a number of times that deer, particularly mature bucks, will start skirting you camera within a short period of time regardless of whether it is IR or flash. I am assuming you know they are skirting them because you can see the tracks going around the camera. I would be interested to see what would happen in your area if you simply put a camera out, but left it off. If the deer start skirting it without it off we can rule out both the flash and the IR as what bothers the deer, as well as the noise. If they don't we can assume it is most likely the flash. It may seem to be a foolish experiment, but I know I'd eagerly anticipate the answer. What do you think?

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Good question!! I'm buying another cudde no flash for this fall so with the one camera I won't check it for a month or 2 to see what happens.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Thats a good idea HB.. assumingone frequents the Ir the same as they would to normally check it..

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Ilove Bry's idea.....but how would you know? Would you rely on tracks in the snow? Mud? (differentiating between bucks and does)

It's interesting, though.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

First of all if that is a Moultire I-40 or I-60, that is not "miliseconds" between pics. I don't think it
takes more than 1 picture every 10 seconds (flash and cam have to cycle). It could be as little as 5
seconds, but it is not miliseconds.

Second, I think that more often than not, the deer hear the click of the shutter. If I can hear it from
a couple of feet away, a deer certainly can hear it from farther (especially if calm). I have some Moultrie IRs and I have pics in the night and day where the deer is a blur from the
camera spooking them.

The verdict is still out in my opinion.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

1) I get 2 full months battery life on my Cudde's in the cold (-12) weather along with taking 30 sec video with each pic.

2) I know they are skirting the cameras by the tracks in the snow.

3) They really notice the camera when it's mounted to a real skinny tree (profiled). They are looking at it when their pic is taken in the daylight.

I'm going to try a couple of things.

1) Camo the camera.
2) Put the camera up high and angle it downward.
3) Last resort...... stop taking night time pics.

I really don't want to do #3, because during the time I have my cameras out, there are periods where almost all of the deer activity is night time. I experience this several times from end of Nov to end of March. I'd miss out on a lot of big bucks doing this.

RE: PROOF IR spooks some deer (Pics)
 

Greg I do this and it works real well! I hang mine over a trail from a tree limb facing down. I try to put it like 10 feet off the ground. Great for catching tresspassers too.