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atlasman 02-06-2008 02:39 PM

RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
 

ORIGINAL: NEW61375

I agree, most properly tunedbows(even older ones) are far more accurate than we could ever shoot them. When I shot a lot of tournaments I found tha all of the form worries often caused me problems, I was thinking it to death instead of just relaxing and shooting. My mind was worried about form, draw, grip, release, etc. etc. etc. which often caused me to lose focus on the target. I think it's funny you did this test as I have performed many similiar "experiments" myself. Shooting sitting down, lying down,turned around, crouched, kneeling,canted, with/without release(just to see the effect on POI at 10, 20 &30), all kinds ofstuff. The majority of the timethe range was within 20-25 yards and surprisingly enoughthe large majorityof time the arrow went where the pin was with minimal accuracy problems. Thanks for posting your results and pics, I feel it's something more people should try, at the veryleast it gives you a little better understanding of your equipments capabilities.

I have done this many times in the past for no other reason then simple peace of mind...........I wanted to see what, if any of these things I should really "worry" about..........and what I found was none of them. Peeking, poor follow through and lack of focusare things I concentrate on avoiding because they are what I have found to negatively effect my accuracy the most.

I believe that in archery your results are directly proportional to your problems.........MAJOR misses are due to MAJOR problems and minor misses can be traced to the smallest minutia you want to chase. I just think many guys out there are blaming MAJOR misses on minor details........thinking/hoping they won't gut shoot another deer if they simply relax their hand a little more or keep that sight bubble square.........or perhaps buy some new gear.

buckeye 02-06-2008 02:44 PM

RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
 

I have done this many times in the past for no other reason then simple peace of mind...........I wanted to see what, if any of these things I should really "worry" about..........and what I found was none of them. Peeking, poor follow through and lack of focusare things I concentrate on avoiding because they are what I have found to negatively effect my accuracy the most.
What may effect you may not have adverse effects on the next guy and vice versa... We are all different. What works for me may not work for the next guy. You have to find (as you did) what you need to work on and practice to eliminate thosemistakes in your shot sequence. [/align]

atlasman 02-06-2008 02:48 PM

RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
 

ORIGINAL: Howler

SO, put some 1" broadheads on the front of those arrows and let's see the results. I'd guess that bad form will show up a little better with broadheads instead of field points on the front of the arrows.
My BH's fly and hit the same as my fieldtips.........I have done the same many times with BH's with nochange in results.

I alsowould have destroyed 3-4 arrows today alone if I had BH's on.

If the weather stays OK Iwill grab my Yellow Jacket and shoot some single arrows at the same spot tomorrow (It's getting dark right now).

atlasman 02-06-2008 02:52 PM

RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
 

ORIGINAL: buckeye


I have done this many times in the past for no other reason then simple peace of mind...........I wanted to see what, if any of these things I should really "worry" about..........and what I found was none of them. Peeking, poor follow through and lack of focusare things I concentrate on avoiding because they are what I have found to negatively effect my accuracy the most.
What may effect you may not have adverse effects on the next guy and vice versa... We are all different. What works for me may not work for the next guy. You have to find (as you did) what you need to work on and practice to eliminate thosemistakes in your shot sequence.

Not sure I follow...........how could what I did have been subjectively individual to "me" I would think anyone with a well tuned setup fit for them would see similar results if they did the same.

Germ 02-06-2008 02:57 PM

RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
 
Atlas do you shoot a peep?

buckeye 02-06-2008 02:58 PM

RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
 


Not sure I follow...........how could what I did have been subjectively individual to "me" I would think anyone with a well tuned setup fit for them would see similar results if they did the same.


I have done this many times in the past for no other reason then simple peace of mind...........I wanted to see what, if any of these things I should really "worry" about..........and what I found was none of them. Peeking, poor follow through and lack of focusare things I concentrate on avoiding because they are what I have found to negatively effect my accuracy the most.

You say these affected you the most, we are all "different" and just because canting the bow or torqueing the bow string etc.didn't negatively effect you does not mean it will hold true for everyone else.

The next guy might shoot lights out with out a solid follow thru... I was just saying different things affect different people differently.
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atlasman 02-06-2008 03:24 PM

RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
 

ORIGINAL: Germ

Atlas do you shoot a peep?
Yes

atlasman 02-06-2008 03:30 PM

RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
 

ORIGINAL: buckeye


You say these affected you the most, we are all "different" and just because canting the bow or torqueing the bow string etc.didn't negatively effect you does not mean it will hold true for everyone else.

The next guy might shoot lights out with out a solid follow thru... I was just saying different things affect different people differently.
I understood that is what you meant........just not sure how the things we are talking about can be considered subjective or personal.

buckeye 02-06-2008 03:35 PM

RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: buckeye


You say these affected you the most, we are all "different" and just because canting the bow or torqueing the bow string etc.didn't negatively effect you does not mean it will hold true for everyone else.

The next guy might shoot lights out with out a solid follow thru... I was just saying different things affect different people differently.
I understood that is what you meant........just not sure how the things we are talking about can be considered subjective or personal.


The results of your "tests" may not have played out the same for the next guy..... That is how it becomes "subjective or personal"..... Results WILL vary ;)
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TFOX 02-06-2008 03:54 PM

RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
 
I had much different results than you.I shot at 15 feet through paper and when I purposely torque(bad torque)the bow,the impact is 1 1/2 to 2" to the left with a 2 1/2" tear.That is with a fallway and spring steel.

The results with a broadhead outside should be horrible and penetration would suck as well.

Guess I should be using a WB.:eek:[8D]


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