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RE: I am old and weak
You bring up an interesting concept. The other day, there was a post on this board where a member (??) had an 82nd Airborne shooting something like 329 fps at 62 lbs. and 29" draw length. Was that you GMMAT? Anyway, I'm shooting a 2005 Hoyt at 61 lbs. and 29" and getting about 260 fps with arrows just a tad over 400 grains total weight. So I'm crunching some numbers here and it looks like I could shoot a48 lb. 82nd Airborne and still get 260 fps with the same arrow. But from what I gather from your post, the draw cycle is so much harsher on the Airborne that the wear/tear factor may be just as high? I'm changing my arrow and bow setup.....going to 52-56#'s and increasing arrow weight to try to get to around 285fps. I'll be honest.....if it doesn't get better at 52#'s......I won't be shooting this bow. I bought it to shoot targets and to hunt with.....but I won't kill myself in one to satisfy the other. That's just being honest. I honestly expect it to be much better at the lower weight. I see no reason it won't......but again....I'm all novice when it comes to this stuff. I can tell you that 62#'s draw is NOT 62#'s draw;). My Ally was a dream at 64#'s. I don't have buyer's remorse. I'm just trying to find a happy median. With RJ's help....I think I have that on order. I KNEW I was going to have to dumb this thing down to shoot sanctioned events. I just wasn't aware it was going to be so tough (my mistake....not Bowtech's). They delivered an awesome product. Here is a question, will reducing the draw weight help with the issue? As Mobow has said it sounds like a narrow valley issue. Even with less draw weight that valley isn't going to get any more forgiving. Sometimes with less draw weight there is more of a tendency to creep because you don't have to hold as "hard." I guess what I am wondering is whether it is a matter of fatigue causing the creeping or if it is just the short valley inheirent with such a fast bow? I shot 45 arrows, last night....and I won't touch it again for a week. My new limbs are 2-3 weeks out. Should have new arrows, next week. I'll give a full, honest report after I change these things. |
RE: I am old and weak
Take care of yourselves, getting older does not mean getting better.
I shaved my beard off the other day, and now when ruttnutt calls me and I answer the phone, He Gobbles at me like a Turkey.  It has something to do with my neck. |
RE: I am old and weak
ORIGINAL: GMMAT None taken, Don!...lol It's just more "aggressive". I mean....it's REALLY agressive. When it falls intot he valley.....it's kinda violent just as it's rolling over.....even at 62#'s. For hunting???? No issues. But when I'm taking 45-60 shots in a practice session or shooting 3D and holding for a while.....yeah....I'm a bit intimidated. There....I said it.:D For hunting.....I'll switch back to the limbs I have on there, now. Unless you need to let down,good chance you will not be letting it down EASY.:D You are starting to see why some of us stay away from high letoff and agressive speed bows. I have said it a few times,for me to shoot a speed bow,I would have to lower the draw weight to the point that the speed advantage would be lost so I am better off shooting the "forgiving" model at the higher poundage. |
RE: I am old and weak
I agree to an extent. For hunting???? NO ISSUES!!
60 shots in one night is a lot for me, though. |
RE: I am old and weak
Jeff,I just edited and added something to my response,sorry,should have just added another post.
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RE: I am old and weak
ORIGINAL: GMMAT I agree to an extent. For hunting???? NO ISSUES!! 60 shots in one night is a lot for me, though. That is the very reason I switched to a bow with a smoother draw. So I could easily let down smoothly while hunting if need be. I see what you are saying aboue 1 shot so no fatigue, but if you have to let down it could cost you an opportunity. Just some food for thought. |
RE: I am old and weak
ORIGINAL: GMMAT I agree to an extent. For hunting???? NO ISSUES!! 60 shots in one night is a lot for me, though. A simple test I run on myself every year prior to hunting season to determine if I'm pulling too much weight goes like this. I'll sit in a chair with my bow as if I'm in a treestand situation. I then point the bow down at an angletoward the floor as if a deer is approaching my "stand". I then draw straight back as smoothly as possible without any extra movement (ie raising up the bow). Once there, I'll hold for a minute or so. If I can't pull straight back from that position in a fluid motion or have trouble holding, the bow weight gets dropped down. I suggest you give this siimple test a try. You might be surprised at the results. |
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I suggest you give this siimple test a try. You might be surprised at the results. I think I'd pass that test.;) One shot? No problem. 60? I don't like it. Letting down Bry? Good point. Something to think about, for sure. |
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ThanI'll just question your sanity for being in a treestand at four in the morning.:D
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RE: I am old and weak
Long story, Jimi. I made a post about it in '06. Shot my best buck to date after going to the stand instead of BED!
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