RE: Another loop question
 

Is the bow new? If so, you'll have to train the string, meaning you'll have to keep spinning the loop back where you want it every few shots until the string stay put with the peep centered where you want it.

RE: Another loop question
 

Halo serving.....that really might be it Arthur. It's pretty small and VERY slick. It however works really well for my Double Lock Nocks.

RE: Another loop question
 

Boy that Halo stuff is nice for end servings though........the stuff is nearly indesructible. Apex 7's are notorious for eating end servings, and I've gotten 10k+ shots at one point out of a single cable.

RE: Another loop question
 

Best picture I have of it.


I know it's hard to tell, but it's the only stuff I can't get to bite. I've changed the loop too.




But I changed the string yesterday for other reasons. The serving on the other string is different.

RE: Another loop question
 

I start with a piece of material aprox. 6 inches long..... After I have the loops bottom knot tied in place I will grab my needle nose pliers. I willtake the "long" tag end of the loop material and putitinto the "jaws" of the pliers.... I then spin the pliers around wrapping the tag end of the loop material 3 or 4 times around the pliers..... I now pull very tightly, until I feel it will not cinch down any more.

Next, I tie the top end of my knot, taking my timemaking the"loop" sectionas short as possible, it is actually almost touching my centerserving. Cut and melt theleftovertag end.

I then stick the end of my needle nose pliers (the longer the pliers the better for greater leverage) in there and pull the ends of the pliers away from one another. Here is where you already tightening the other knot really comes into play...... Now as you areusing the pliers to tighten yourknot, all of that effort is going into just tighteningthe top knot instead of both,resulting in two very snug and secure knots and a loop that isjust long enough for my nock and release head.

A pet peeve of mine is long loops..... I see no reason for an extra long loop, other than not taking the time to do it correctly.

If this is the exact method you already used, I have no other suggestion for the material you have access to.

RE: Another loop question
 

A pet peeve of mine is manufacturers cutting off draw length selection a couple of inches too short. ;)When you've got a draw length in excess of 33" and the bow you really want to shoot doesn't come in a draw length longer than 31", extra long loop is the only way to get it done. Well, that isif you don'treally want to screw up your form by using excessive bend in the bow arm and such.

RE: Another loop question
 

Scott:

That's what we did. I appreciate the response. The guys who've already tried......seemed to me (They do this all the time....and at least the second guy did exaxtly what you say).....that they knew what they were doing. Plus...there have been 4 different loops on there now.....out of 3 different materials. It was gettin' old to hear people tell me to cinch it down and it wouldn't move. I think we went that route.

I will order some BCY material.....but I wanted it fixed by today/tomorrow. I don't see that happening. Also.....is everyone (not singling anyone out) telling me that the ONLY way to tie a knot that won't slip onto a new Bowtech.....is to use BCY loop materials? If so.....I would think the dealers would wanna know that. I was at 3 of them and they sure don't know.

Heads up.....

(Thanks, Scott)

RE: Another loop question
 

thats one of the main reasons I went with an Ultra Noc.

RE: Another loop question
 

After all this trouble....I submitted an inquiry to Bowtech to see if maybe they'd switched serving materials on the '08 models.....that might not be as "grippy".

When 3 guys at 3 shops tie 4 different loops that won't grip.....I think we can assume it isn't craftmanship. If it's a materials issue.....I think they ought to be letting their dealers know this.

I'll let you know what they say.

RE: Another loop question
 

Jeff so i understand

THe loop is twisting on the string?