Are the record books "tainted" now??
01-30-2008, 10:28 AM
#42
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 234
RE: Are the record books "tainted" now??
The main reason there are more big deer shot now is................................................ .................there are more deer now. Duh.
Having more deer also allows the current luxury of passing on small bucks because you can shoot a doe. For many years in Iowa there were no antlerless tags and only very few bucks only tags. If you passed on that small buck you were unlikely to get another opportunity to HUNT for years to come. Many hunters did not even SEE a deer while hunting in the 1950's. My father grew up on a farm in Southern Iowa and NEVER saw a deer on the old family place. I think that it would be unusual to not see deer every week there now.
I agree that most book deer in Iowa never go on the books. No one wants to screw up their honey hole with publicity.
Bob
Keep the high fenced deer off of the books. Do not buy products from people who use high fence hunting to promote those products. CWD would not even exist in many places were it not for farm raised deer. There could be other pathogens waiting out there, lets us not help them spread as has been done with CWD.
Sport is what you do when you are not keeping score.
Having more deer also allows the current luxury of passing on small bucks because you can shoot a doe. For many years in Iowa there were no antlerless tags and only very few bucks only tags. If you passed on that small buck you were unlikely to get another opportunity to HUNT for years to come. Many hunters did not even SEE a deer while hunting in the 1950's. My father grew up on a farm in Southern Iowa and NEVER saw a deer on the old family place. I think that it would be unusual to not see deer every week there now.
I agree that most book deer in Iowa never go on the books. No one wants to screw up their honey hole with publicity.
Bob
Keep the high fenced deer off of the books. Do not buy products from people who use high fence hunting to promote those products. CWD would not even exist in many places were it not for farm raised deer. There could be other pathogens waiting out there, lets us not help them spread as has been done with CWD.
Sport is what you do when you are not keeping score.
01-30-2008, 10:35 AM
#43
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Northern Missouri\'s Grand River Outfitters
Posts: 334
RE: Are the record books "tainted" now??
ORIGINAL: don128
I never had much faith in the record books for Whitetail. I don't register any of mine, nor do any of my friends in this area. The Olds barns and sheds in this part of the country have piles of racks just lying around that I'm positive would change the books considerably, prob true throughout the Midwest. I don't know how the books could be even close to accurate when the majority of hunters never enter their Bucks. States like Illinoise show high numbers of entry's because most hunters register. Most farmers in my area that shoot a 180" 10 point, or even a 200+ buck generally just throw it in the shed or ditch, with very little show or bragging. As for pen raised deer, I hope not many ever get snuck into the records. I know it sounds crazy, but I think there are many World record racks just laying around.
I never had much faith in the record books for Whitetail. I don't register any of mine, nor do any of my friends in this area. The Olds barns and sheds in this part of the country have piles of racks just lying around that I'm positive would change the books considerably, prob true throughout the Midwest. I don't know how the books could be even close to accurate when the majority of hunters never enter their Bucks. States like Illinoise show high numbers of entry's because most hunters register. Most farmers in my area that shoot a 180" 10 point, or even a 200+ buck generally just throw it in the shed or ditch, with very little show or bragging. As for pen raised deer, I hope not many ever get snuck into the records. I know it sounds crazy, but I think there are many World record racks just laying around.
01-30-2008, 10:48 AM
#46
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Minnesota
Posts: 9,445
RE: Are the record books "tainted" now??
ORIGINAL: Robert L E
The main reason there are more big deer shot now is................................................ .................there are more deer now. Duh.
Having more deer also allows the current luxury of passing on small bucks because you can shoot a doe. For many years in Iowa there were no antlerless tags and only very few bucks only tags. If you passed on that small buck you were unlikely to get another opportunity to HUNT for years to come. Many hunters did not even SEE a deer while hunting in the 1950's. My father grew up on a farm in Southern Iowa and NEVER saw a deer on the old family place. I think that it would be unusual to not see deer every week there now.
I agree that most book deer in Iowa never go on the books. No one wants to screw up their honey hole with publicity.
Bob
Keep the high fenced deer off of the books. Do not buy products from people who use high fence hunting to promote those products. CWD would not even exist in many places were it not for farm raised deer. There could be other pathogens waiting out there, lets us not help them spread as has been done with CWD.
Sport is what you do when you are not keeping score.
The main reason there are more big deer shot now is................................................ .................there are more deer now. Duh.
Having more deer also allows the current luxury of passing on small bucks because you can shoot a doe. For many years in Iowa there were no antlerless tags and only very few bucks only tags. If you passed on that small buck you were unlikely to get another opportunity to HUNT for years to come. Many hunters did not even SEE a deer while hunting in the 1950's. My father grew up on a farm in Southern Iowa and NEVER saw a deer on the old family place. I think that it would be unusual to not see deer every week there now.
I agree that most book deer in Iowa never go on the books. No one wants to screw up their honey hole with publicity.
Bob
Keep the high fenced deer off of the books. Do not buy products from people who use high fence hunting to promote those products. CWD would not even exist in many places were it not for farm raised deer. There could be other pathogens waiting out there, lets us not help them spread as has been done with CWD.
Sport is what you do when you are not keeping score.
01-30-2008, 10:56 AM
#49
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: North Lima Ohio & Clarion Pa
Posts: 6,453
RE: Are the record books "tainted" now??
ORIGINAL: don128
Thx GR8atta2d, 158, 171, 205, 168, 169, these are a few of my lucky days.
Thx GR8atta2d, 158, 171, 205, 168, 169, these are a few of my lucky days.
But they are not exactly thrown in thebarn lofteither
01-30-2008, 10:59 AM
#50
Super Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southeast Central Illinois USA
Posts: 6,969
RE: Are the record books "tainted" now??
Also.........would you be pissed to see a genetically and nutritionally "farmed" deer take over the top spot in these books??