The Next Typical World Record?
 

Will the next typical world record fall this next season and will it come from IL?

I met a guy today at a local sport show that says that is exactly what will happen. He said, and I know this guy enough to respect what he says, that he has the next world record on his properties in IL. He promises that if he downs this deer this year, it will measure 230" typical. PROMISES. He said his dad missed it a year ago and said it would have surpased Milo Hanson's buck and he had it at 10 yards this past season without a buck tag. He was out doe hunting and this buck came to 10 yards.

Swears it's 30" wide and carries symetrical 16-18" tines and mass out to the tips. I said to him, I pray that you do down him and it does make world!

I saw pics of last years buck, 170"s....gorgeous and held a pair of matched sheds that would surpass Frank's (Kidd642). I could not get my hands around the bases of this buck.

So, will the new world record fall this year to an IL'n?

Do you think the new world record is out there on the hoof?

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Guy you are hunting with next year?

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You know Rob, I was thinking about that too. Just this past fall a buck was found dead in a river not an hour and a half from where I live....Died of natural causes, and I forget the score but he broke the world record by several inches.....It's gotta happen sometime.

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No, no where near and I freakin wish!

And that prompts another question, would you want to shoot it and all the "disease" that surround shooting such a buck?

If I were lucky enough to down a potential world record here is a list of things I would do.

1. Look at but NOT TOUCH said animal.
2. Call someone to come gaurd the animal, no weapon.
3. Call a state DNR, Game official, warden etc to come see the animal.
4. Tag the animal in front of said person, to this point I did not touch said animal.
5. Backtrack the blood trail to my treestand and show said warden, DNR officer etc.
6. NOT TELL A SOLE until after the drying period
7. Have it officially scored under strict supervision.
8. Document everything from start to finish.

Do you think it would be more a curse than honor?

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Yes

Don't take this wrong... But I hope not... The way world records have fallen over the pastsome odd years or so is kind of alarming...... Almost cheapens the accomplishment.... IMO

Hanson buck.... world record typical
Bryant buck.... world record X-bow non typical
Beatty buck.... p&y world record non typical
Albia buck.... world record non typical
Jerman buck.... world record x-bow typical
The "almost" Zaft buck.....
The "Rompola" buck..... <--- No comments on that one guys, it is beaten to death...

Who am I missing????

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Well Rob if it has 16-18 tines it will have major deductions. 7 a side for tyical
The new world record is out there. I bet there is atleastbuck that beats Hansondeer in

Ill
IA
KS
WI
Minn
MO
PA
NY
MI
Canada(at least 5)
MD
And pile more states with a big old buck nobody knows about;)
Hell that dude in NY shot a 215+ buck witha stick bow

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Whatcha mean Germ?

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naw...i am going to say CA:D

but really though 230 typical...that is crazy....u guys got Muley back there in IL?? cause it would probably have some cross in him.....or just fat on biologic;)

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I Dunno

I absolutely do ...... With deer management like it is today and the way it seems to be going, I believe we will see the record broken a few times in the next decade ...

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Oh yeah he's out there. Will he fall, legally next year? Unlikely.

As a side note I heard today (or my wife did actually) that the land I got permission to hunt in the late summer, and then inexplicably lost permission before setting foot on the property,holds a Giant!

She was talking to a local Cop who hunts there, and she said I hunt near there,
He asked if I had gotten "his" buck. I guess he has 3 cameras up and has chased this certain deer for 2 years. He might be the one the locals have been telling me about. I've never seen him and actually kinda doubted his existance till today. ;)

I only hunt a small farm that borders the property and the crop rotation this year made it hard to hunt!

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The score sheet only goes to 7 points a side. So anything else would be adnormal point I think?

http://www.pope-young.org/ScoreSheets/T-WTC.pdf

Anyone know for sure

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No doubt...........would be a weird feeling sitting there and actually knowing that it is REALLY possible that he could be on his way to your stand.


I think it would only be a problem if you let it become one.


I don't see how it would be a curse........or an honor. I see it no different then winning the lottery.


My biggest fear would be what to do with the rack........how would you keep it from getting stolen?

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With the incredible management and money that goes on in Texas, I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't come from there.

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Oh, I forgot the " ...I meant 16-18" (inch) tines.! ;)

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I would be happy with 18" main beams. LOL

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That is incorrect.... Just like there is onlyspots for 5 abnormal points per side on the score sheet..... If it grew they will be measured and recorded.

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OHH

WOW

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Yes, that too.

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The odds of 1 particularbuck, making it through the year and still able to sport the same rack of world record magnitude has to be staggerring. He has the genetics, but nutrition, injury, and soft tine breakage are all obstacles to be overcome.

Not to mention poachers, predators, weather etc.

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This deer was taken during firearm in Clay County IL. It has a 25 inch inside spread and 31 inch main beams. I didnt see the deer but I was told it was believed it was a 3/1/2 year old. Imagine it as a 5 year old!

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180"s ?

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If this were true, it would be the new, current world record as B&C allows entry of found dead bucks as long as the skull plate is intact etc.

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Well now that's cool......I have no idea what condition it was in though....

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I on the other hand think the best thing to do is just take a couple pictures, not let anyone measure it, saw the horns off and screw them to a plaque for the den.:)

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Rob, I think we've told you the story, but... when Matt was here, we made our ritualistic stop at the convenience store on the way home from one of the farms we hunt. We pulled up behind a late-model Chevy and spotted tines sticking up inside the cab.

"Look at that," Matt said... "Looks like a nice one."

We walk on inside to grab some stuff to munch on for the ride home, and I overhear a couple camo-clad guys sitting at one of the tables talking about deer; I ask him if that's his truck, and if he would mind if we just peeked in the window as we'd noticed the nice rack when pulling up behind it. He proceeds to get up and tell us that he'd just show it to us... We follow him to his truck and he unlocks the door, reaches in and pulls out the most massive rack either Matt or me has ever seen in person. It wasn't that he was that massive... though he did carry nice mass. What he was though was possessing some of the tallest tines we'd ever seen on a beautiful typical frame.

We asked him what he scored, and I think he said he was 204... gross.Netted in the 180s... Something crazy like 16-17" tines all the way around -- except he was missing a matching G4 or something like that. Almost no deductions other than that.

Now think about that... if he'd had grown that one tine -- add another 16" to that score on a typical frame, and we'd have been staring at the next world record right then. The really cool thing? I see that guy there every single night that his girlfriend works there... 60-70 times a year. We know he's hunting close to there ... and that means he'shunting close to where we're hunting.;)

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Greg she may just be really hot and he drivesa long way!!

There places in Ohio that have not been hunted in long time. Who knows what is wandering down there

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Huntemup had the new world record in front of him, but didn't shoot because he forgot his camera.:D:D:D

I do believe the world record is walking around out there somewhere. A friend of mine has replica antlers from the Kansas King Sheds found a few years back. They scored 217 inches if both sides matched. One side had been chewed on a bit.

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IL. is definitely a possibility, but I think IA, and KS are both on the way up. If they are not producing as many Big Bucks as IL. right now it's only because of lesser hunter #'s I enjoy hunting my home state of IL. but my access to landhas dwindled drastically. I won't complain about Outfitters because that's a sign of the times and you can not blame farmers for making what money they can off of there land. I've got one spot that is better than it used to be and another that is not nearly as good as it was a few years ago. It is bordered on 3 sides by outfitters and I know there are a lot of 125" to 135" bucks taken there every season. Where used to there would be only 3 or 4 taken. I believe the extra Buck Harvest is beginning to show.

There are a ton of does though.;)

Dan

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MI buck to boot[&:]

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i think it will plus atleast 4 new users repost some older big bucks they find on the computer or get texted or emailed lol

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[&:]huh

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I think I had 1 too many beers.

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Yeah that buck that Greg and I saw in IL that night.........I can't even describe to you the shock when he opened the door and pulled that rack out of the back seat. [:-][:-][:-]

It was literally breathtaking. I can't remember if it was a 6X5 or a 7X6? but like Greg said it was 204 gross and I thought he said it netted 194? I remember asking him if that was in the 180's because I had never seen a rack like it and didn't want to sound like a kook and ask it was 220" LOL:D
That's when he said "No it's actually 204" and nets in the 190's (I thought he said 194")

But like Greg said it was a single missing G4 or something that was just a straight deduction and accounted for almost the entire side to side difference. He's right, if he had that tine he would have been something like an almost spotless 215" or so typical. He surely would have netted better than 210".
It wasn't even terribly wide, 18 or 19" I think but it just went straight up with the most impressive wall of tines you'd ever lay your eyes on.

Shock was a pretty good word to describe both of our reactions to it.

when the guy described the area he shot it in it sounded like a spot not more than a couple hundred yards from where we hunt.
:(

If I shot that thing I would STILL be spooning its dead carcass. :D

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I bet there are a lot of new world records walking around,just no one has been lucky enough to have taken one yet.There would be a lot of baggage with it but I would like to give it a try.[8D]



I am surprised that Ky hasn't been mentioned,it was 2nd at one time behind Ill on book deer per capita.

Here is a small 195"gross that if he had developed the 2 extra tines that had started to form,he probably would have made it well over 200"'s.(I believe 1 more year would have done it)Lot of if's and but's but the deer are there,just a matter of someone getting that lucky day.I am not sure where he ranks in the Ky gun kill records now but down the list a ways,he used to be number 1 but not anymore.

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Thats one of the cool things about deer hunting, you just never know what could happen to anyone next year. As much as all the good properties are hunted, exploited, leased, turned into businesses, fought over, held as top secret honey holes, etc, there are still potential world records that could fall even in 08, how cool is that. Rob,the first thing I woulddo is take a picture and post it on HNI and show you guys, then call the DNR [8D] Greg and Matt, I would have loved to have seen a picture of your faces when the guy opened the door, could have been an HNI "priceless" piclol :eek:

Not sure what this guy would have scored last season, 135 - 140?He wasnt real wide, maybe 16 - 18" inside,but from 60 yards he sure was pretty. Who knows what he couldscore in 2 or 3 more years? Definatelywill never be any kind of world record, but he could be my own personal bow record with another 10 or 20 inches.Hearing about all the local and faraway gianst is all part of the lure and mystery.

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Kudos to him for passing on it because we all know there are a few guys who would have shot him.

I believe there is one out there somewhere and could be located in several states or in Canada. I also believe a few have lived and died by natural causes that were in areas where hunting was not allowed.

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Greg, we talked about this very thing. I actually said that exactly to him and then I said you couldn't. If you did, you'd have tag it with what, your dad's tag and it'd have to go down in the record books as your dad's and you could never tell anyone differently. That would be wrong on so many levels.

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Honestly, ihave been saying that Ill was going to produce the next world record for the last several years, guess im not good at calling it. and yes i do believe the next record is on the hoove right now.

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TFOX

I was trying to keep KY on the down low[&:]

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Ky, where is that? :eek:trying to help you out Germ ;)