3rd plane sight adjustment
 

Why.....as a 3D shooter....is this important to me?

What about as a hunter?

Thanks.

RE: 3rd plane sight adjustment
 

This is easier.........:)

http://www.spot-hogg.com/newsletter1.shtml

http://www.spot-hogg.com/newsletter19.shtml

RE: 3rd plane sight adjustment
 

Basically, in VERY short form, it's to prevent a false reading on your bubble level when shooting up/down hill. You will correct the bubble, and in the process be torquing the bow w/out knowing it....Causing your shot to stray right/left......

I'm still learning a helluvalot about 3rd axis myself, but that's the gist of it, as I understand it.

RE: 3rd plane sight adjustment
 

MAtt:

I'm GONNA read that...I promise....but....

Do you guys look at your level when you're shooting 3D......during a comp. round?

RE: 3rd plane sight adjustment
 

EVERY SINGLE SHOT.

RE: 3rd plane sight adjustment
 

I learn something every day.

Matt...Honestly....I use my level when i practice. I think it's a great tool. When I shoot in a comp. round, though....I trust my practice. I'm just being honest.

I also (after reading those articles) am pretty sure that I nor anyone I have access to locally can properly set up my bow/sight with the proper 3rd axis adjustment.

I see the merits. I just don't think I know of anyone who has this expertise. Am I being too critical?

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GMMAT, I am in the same boat you are. Noone around here messes w/ 3rd axis stuff, which I why I am leaning HEAVILY on this forum. Matt/PA and Rick James, and TFOX have all been incredibly helpful, and I'll continue "using" them....:D

I am looking at it as a way to become a more valuable asset to the pro shop I work at.......

RE: 3rd plane sight adjustment
 

Exactly how good do you want to be?;)..........would you rather trust the bow is set up properly and know that it was YOU that missed the 10ring by 1" to the right on a downhill shot? Or would you rather wonder if it was you or the bow?

Getting to the advancing levels in this sport is a culmination of a crapload of details.

2nd axis leveling is ABSOLUTELY critical on any shot, its one of the bases of good accuracy. It's also a simple adjustment.

3rd axis IMO is just as important especially in the terrain I shoot and for the distance and precision that I need to have.It's nothing for me tospend an entire DAY at our hilly club doing nothing but uphill/downhill shooting, grouping and tuning to make sure my 3rd axis is on.

Might as well start to learn and incorporate all of it now. :)

RE: 3rd plane sight adjustment
 

How long would it take (and what equipment would be necessary) to properly adjust the third axis on a sight/bow combo?

Yeah...I'd like to know it was "me" on every shot....good or bad.

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Jeff:

As Matt said, look at that bubble EVERY shot on the 3D course. Crazy sidehills, etc......where you have bad footing.........what feels right isn't always so. Trust me on this. It should be part of your shot sequence. This is a big part of why I really prefer a sight with a larger bubble too, because after the initial check on that bubble I like to be able to see it subconsciously through peripheral vision as I'm aiming. If something doesn't feel perfect I can know where that bubble is without breaking concentration from the target if I have a large bubble.

You need to convince the shop to buy a quality 3rd axis vise. We have a Medicine Stone at the shop I help at, and I'm buying one for my house as well. They are a bit expensive, but are the best designed unit out there I've seen yet. I also much prefer the HTM levels kit over the Medicine Stone levels, because the HTM's will allow you to get the bow in the vise with your string completely level on 2x planes without moving the level, I'm yet to see another stringlevel out there that has a bubble for 2x planes.

Medicine Stone Bow Vise:





One of these days I will take a quick video to share on youtube of how I set 3rd axis. I plan to have a 3D specific bow in the next 3 weeks or so and when I get it, I will take a video when I set it and share with everyone. I really prefer to do it on the bow, as compared to a lot of guys have a jig setup to test 3rd axis with the sight off the bow, and if there is any variance between the riser and string's plane then you have an issue (I've seen this personally).

***Edit*** - To add to this, once I've set it on the vise, I will go outside and shoot a few groups at themaximum distance I've got a pin for (47 yards)at extreme angles to see what happens just to check everything. Every time I've set it on the Medicine Stone though, I've never had a problem once checking. I would still recommend to do this every time.