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Bailsuk 01-22-2008 01:41 PM

Peep sight help
 
I am in need of a peep sight that will line up everytime and not compromise the power to much,i looked at Loc-a-peep .

Can you guys recommend any others as i am needing it soon . Thanks .

nodog 01-22-2008 02:44 PM

RE: Peep sight help
 
Never heard of that one. I use the G5. I like them and think the blue color helps.

BigJ71 01-22-2008 02:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bailsuk

I am in need of a peep sight that will line up everytime and not compromise the power to much,i looked at Loc-a-peep .

Can you guys recommend any others as i am needing it soon . Thanks .
If you want a peep that will line up every time, you're gonna need a quality string and cable set put on your bow.....And even then it may not always come back aligned perfectly. That's why I use a tube style peep, because I know it will be aligned when I draw on an animal......

This of course is for hunting purposes, if I were to shoot targets I'd probably use a tubeless peep.

MeanV2 01-22-2008 03:38 PM

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Quality Strings are the key and getting it set right;)I would never use anything but a Tru-Peep or a G5 Meta Peep.

Dan

BigJ71 01-22-2008 04:01 PM

RE: Peep sight help
 

ORIGINAL: MeanV2

Quality Strings are the key and getting it set right;)I would never use anything but a Tru-Peep or a G5 Meta Peep.

Dan
Yeah Dan but even quality strings/cables can creep, especially with drastic weather changes. That's why I always use a tube on my peep, I know for sure it will be aligned every time.

Don't get me wrong I set the peep to be aligned at full draw, and for the most part the tube does next to nothing. But it's there...just in case.;)

Like I've said before, for target shooting I'd probably go with a tubeless peep.....targets don't bolt when you have to let down your draw to adjust your peep.[8D]

MeanV2 01-22-2008 04:04 PM

RE: Peep sight help
 

ORIGINAL: BigJ71


ORIGINAL: MeanV2

Quality Strings are the key and getting it set right;)I would never use anything but a Tru-Peep or a G5 Meta Peep.

Dan
Yeah Dan but even quality strings/cables can creep, especially with drastic weather changes. That's why I always use a tube on my peep, I know for sure it will be aligned every time.

Don't get me wrong I set the peep to be aligned at full draw, and for the most part the tube does next to nothing. But it's there...just in case.;)

Like I've said before, for target shooting I'd probably go with a tubeless peep.....targets don't bolt when you have to let down your draw to adjust your peep.[8D]
Guess I'm Lucky!;)

I'm Thankful:D

Dan

greenboy 01-22-2008 05:30 PM

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I just use the generic peeps you can get anywhere that use the tube thats tied to the cables and ive never had a problem getting them to line up:eek:

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-22-2008 07:32 PM

RE: Peep sight help
 

ORIGINAL: MeanV2

Quality Strings are the key and getting it set right;)I would never use anything but a Tru-Peep or a G5 Meta Peep.

Dan
BigJ, I have to agree with Dan,

I haven't used a tube in a long time. Even without a loop I was able to get my peep to come around true everytime. Strings can be trained to turn your peep. I wish I could tinker with your bow, you'd do away with that noisy tube. ;)

ranger56528 01-22-2008 07:53 PM

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Never have had a problem with the true-peep ether...cold or hot weather....

BigJ71 01-22-2008 10:08 PM

RE: Peep sight help
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: MeanV2

Quality Strings are the key and getting it set right;)I would never use anything but a Tru-Peep or a G5 Meta Peep.

Dan
BigJ, I have to agree with Dan,

I haven't used a tube in a long time. Even without a loop I was able to get my peep to come around true everytime. Strings can be trained to turn your peep. I wish I could tinker with your bow, you'd do away with that noisy tube. ;)
Well then you'd both be wrong.:DLOL j/k

I have no trouble getting my peep to come back aligned, granted I used to fiddle with them much more when the string material quality, or construction (back in the day) wasn't as good as itis today.

I'm pretty sure most here can get their peeps to align, that's not my point. My point is even the BEST made strings/cables, made with the best quality materials can creep and I cited extreme weather changes as an example. I think it was GMMAT who was just posting about his peep not being perfectly aligned. I believe he uses a quality cable and string.

I set up my peeps to be perfectly aligned Iwhen I drawbut I also put on the tubing, this way if for some reason my peep isn't aligned the tubing will pull it into place and I won't miss a shot opportunity.

As far as the whole "noise" thing is concerned.......way over rated. So what if it's a couple decibels louder than without it? It's never....ever caused me to miss a deer and I suspect it never will. I'd gladly give up a couple decibels to know I'll have a clear view when I draw.

All that stealth won't help if you can't see what your aiming at.;)

Bailsuk 01-23-2008 02:00 AM

RE: Peep sight help
 
Thanks BigJ , I'm gonna go with the tube type for now . I have limited experience with bow setting and tuning and i'm not getting into serious competitions , just field , 3D and fun .

Iwill post my review on the Loc-a-peep , when i have fiited it and tried it out .

Thanks for all replies fella's .

bowdoc1 01-23-2008 05:12 AM

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The only time I have had a peep move is when the string is going bad. Once i get it lined up it never changes weather has no effect on it's rotation. I use a true-peep no problems lining it up and it stays that way.

MeanV2 01-23-2008 05:14 AM

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I put a G5 Meta peep on my Guardian when I got it last year, about 2 weeks later I adjusted it a little. This seaon I hunted 80+ degree weather, below zero in NE., rain in IL., snow in NE. I never had to touch my Peep again, and it never failed to line up. I guess I really am lucky:D

Actually I have used that type of peep for years and that is normal. No dry rottin, breakin, power robbin tube for me ever again.[8D]

Dan

BigJ71 01-23-2008 11:32 AM

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Guys, I'm glad your peeps are staying in place, most of the time they do. Hey I'm not pulling this information out of thin air, just ask any string maker (Gibblet) if this happens..

The string material (just like pretty much anything)will contract and expand with climate and pressure changes...pretty basic science guys.

Glad you like your G5 peep Dan.....I gave mine away on one of "BigJ's Late Night Giveaways"

I've also never had any problems with my "dry rottin, breakin, power robbin tube" so I must be lucky as well.[8D]

Of course, ifone can't figure out that your supposed to change itoften or how to install it properly, perhaps a tubeless peep is best for some folks.:D

Me, I can grasp the concepts.....I guess I'm just lucky.;)

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-23-2008 12:30 PM

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BigJ,

I don't doubt a word of what your writing. You are right on. To each his own, your tube doesn't effect my shooting and me not having one doesn't effect yours. Mine works perfect, yours works perfect. Keep up the great work.

That's pretty much what it comes down to, personal preference. I have no trouble with my peep coming around shooting for years in vast amounts of climates, BigJ likes that added security. I don't blame him one bit.



BigJ71 01-23-2008 12:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer

BigJ,

I don't doubt a word of what your writing. You are right on. To each his own, your tube doesn't effect my shooting and me not having one doesn't effect yours. Mine works perfect, yours works perfect. Keep up the great work.

That's pretty much what it comes down to, personal preference. I have no trouble with my peep coming around shooting for years in vast amounts of climates, BigJ likes that added security. I don't blame him one bit.
I agree Rob, and I suspect you, or most will probably never ever experience a misaligned peep (I trulyhope not) at the moment of truth....I just can't seem to get that "what if" voice outta my head.:D:D

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-23-2008 12:57 PM

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I just can't seem to get that "what if" voice outta my head.
And that's not a bad thing.

Reminds me of one of the first videos Drury's came out with. He wasn't using a peep. He drew on a dandy buck, peep didn't come around, he let down, drew again, nope, again, nope, he was trying to turn it with is nose, nope, buck spooked. It was hilarious.l

I hope too it never happens. I'll throw my bow at him. SO far, so good. :D

bowdoc1 01-23-2008 01:34 PM

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I had a friend hunting with me down in Missouri once. He stalk up within 30 yards of about 40 turkey drawed his bow back and the rubber on his peep snapped him on the forehead. Needles to say he couldn't see through his peep, but he shot any way and missed all 40 of them. He has never use the rubber band peep again. Once I was at a 3D shoot and a friend rubber broke. He could see through the peep so he keep shooting. His 30 yard pin was about 6 inch high and 40 was higher. I told him that there would be a big difference. He went home and into his pro shop Shot in over a chronograph than put a new rubber on. He lost 15 fps with the rubber. He got on the phone right away and called me to tell me that I was right about the rubber and how it sucked. Now he doesn't use one any more. I never like them because they always brake at a bad time for me and some time shade the peep hole if the light is just right. To each there own if you like them than use one. I'm just talking about some of the things I have seen happen with them.

gplant 01-23-2008 01:38 PM

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Good strings and a loop.Tru-peep

Bailsuk 01-23-2008 01:41 PM

RE: Peep sight help
 
Well fella's , i've had both sides of the story and seeing as i've tried the tubeless type and had problems ... it cannot hurt to try the tubed peep out .
With an Elk hunt this year lookin very possible , i need a set-up i can really rely onand not have to worry about ( i always worry things are'nt spot on ) . I want to know that when and if i do get the chance to draw my bow on my prize , its going toas clear a shot as possible. Otherwise i won't be able to post my picture on the forums with my big smile and 1 elk tag filled .
Thanks for your input Rob and cheers BigJ .

HNI_Christine 01-23-2008 01:55 PM

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What are these annoying peep things you guys are talking about? Rubber tubes?!! ;)


I use one of these.


:D

Bailsuk 01-23-2008 02:17 PM

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Hey Christine , thats a nice piece of kit . Whats it called and who does them ? . Its a bit late now as i have ordered a Loc-a-peep and am looking forward to the results . Also , do they fit any sight ?

BigJ71 01-23-2008 10:00 PM

RE: Peep sight help
 

ORIGINAL: bowdoc1

I had a friend hunting with me down in Missouri once. He stalk up within 30 yards of about 40 turkey drawed his bow back and the rubber on his peep snapped him on the forehead. Needles to say he couldn't see through his peep, but he shot any way and missed all 40 of them. He has never use the rubber band peep again. Once I was at a 3D shoot and a friend rubber broke. He could see through the peep so he keep shooting. His 30 yard pin was about 6 inch high and 40 was higher. I told him that there would be a big difference. He went home and into his pro shop Shot in over a chronograph than put a new rubber on. He lost 15 fps with the rubber. He got on the phone right away and called me to tell me that I was right about the rubber and how it sucked. Now he doesn't use one any more. I never like them because they always brake at a bad time for me and some time shade the peep hole if the light is just right. To each there own if you like them than use one. I'm just talking about some of the things I have seen happen with them.
And I have heard lots of stories of folks who use tubeless peeps and have missed shots on deer because their peeps didn't align. I also hunted with a fella that this happened to. Granted, I don't know if he had a quality string on his bow or not but it happened to him none the less.

You can't go too long on here without a post about someone having trouble with their peep aligning. (this one is a case in point) What's the average "Joe Bowhunter" who purchases a brand new bow that just might not have the best string and cable on it do?? Buy a BRAND NEW quality string and cable set to replace the BRAND NEW one that's on his bow.....that he hasn't even shot yet????? Come on!

You tell that guy/gal to use a tubeless peep and odds are they will have NOTHING but problems with their peep aligning. We get it all the time here.
There is a reason why the Surz-A-Peep is so popular, because it will allow the string to rotate and still have some kind of view through it. I've eventried those in the past and I always go back to the tube.

I'll tell you this though,I'd rather use that style (splits the string in three)than thesplits thestring in twotype. If you set it up just right you can get a clear picture and with a quality string you will always get a clear picture,BUT, if for some reason the string creeps at least you can still get a sight picture, It may be a little fuzzy but it will be there.

For now I'll stay with a tubed peep. If set up correctly a tube style peep will perform flawless and align the peep every time. I change my tube twice a year whether it needs it or not, once before the season and once after it....NO problems.

I don't know what bow your friend was shooting but I also chrono'd my bow with and without the peep, I lost 5fps. Maybe it's possible, I've seen some pretty thick heavy tubes in my day that just might slow down a bow 15fps but my bow only lost 5fps. Perhapsit's because I shoot an ultra fast Mathews Switchback LD?:eek::D






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