RE: 3 seasons in the field.....Camo observance
 

Great Rybo

Now 100,000 hunters in MI and PA are going to attached red lights on their guns and wallk up to deer:D

RE: 3 seasons in the field.....Camo observance
 

So then what you’re saying is that the numbers would decrease; interesting…

RE: 3 seasons in the field.....Camo observance
 

I should have said poachers:eek:

RE: 3 seasons in the field.....Camo observance
 

Jeff, everything I have read is opposite of this. One of the reasons deer don't have color vision is a lack of cones. The reason they have fewer cones than us is that there are rods in their place. Those rods are what allow deer to see better in low/no light conditons. Combine that with the tapetum in their eyes which collects the available light and reflects it back to the retina and its rods and you have an eye built for seeing at night. What I have read is that it is believedthey can see in pitch black night about how we see at dusk just before dark. That is, they can make out shapes, but not details. Just as we know it's a deer, but can't tell if it's a buck or doe, they can tell we are people in the dark, and that's enough. The thing is until we can see through a deer's eyes we will never know for sure.

I agree that wearing the right camo for the right situation is important and that playing the wind is important, but difficult depending on where you are. You usually hear about guys from the midwest preaching the wind because they can count on what they see on Weather.com being what they will experience because of the flatter nature of the terrain. Many of the places I hun have a good bit of topography, so what the wind may be doing according to Weather.com may not pertain to the area I want to hunt because of the land features shifting the wind. Many times it causes swirls which are very frustrating. Plus with elevation there are thermals to consider. So, scent control combine with playing the wind I believe is essential.

I also agree with comfort. If you are not still, you will be busted and not even know it.

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I guess it isn’t funny if you have to explain; but I was implying that there are currently more than a 100,000 hunter/poachers using those tactics…
Oh well, maybe next time…

RE: 3 seasons in the field.....Camo observance
 

Doooppeeee, Now I get it:D

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Interesting, Bry....but I've also heard this isn't exactly true.

I'm gonna do some more reading, I guess.....but I have always thought the darker it was....the better chance of me being undetected....or...identified.

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No doubt on this. It's still dark so if you keep quiet and move slowly you should be able to slip out undetected. Unfortunately, in the dark they will see us before we know to hide.

I can't remember where I read it, but I had read something stating that the reason deer will freeze in headlights is because it is like getting hit with a light while wearing night vision. You are temporarily stunned and blinded. The same source also stated that on very bright, sunny days deer tend to move later in the evening or earlier in the morning because the bright sun is hard on their low light geared eyes. This makes sense to me since my favorite days to hunt are overcast nasty days. I believe the light is only one of the factors that has them on their feet, but I do believeit is a factor.

RE: 3 seasons in the field.....Camo observance
 

I don't know guys. I personally posted about 2 years ago on here that I didn't think camo mattered much, but my opinion has changed after a full season in an open pattern.

I feel a good open pattern gives me the ability to hunt stands in an area that I wouldn't be able to hunt otherwise. When I find a key location I want to hunt (stream crossing, saddle, staging area, etc) the #1 thing for me is wind direction, and entrance/exit routes. After this, I've gotta find a "perfect" tree on whatever side that the wind and entrance/exit routes dictate. A lot of the time, I can't find a "perfect" tree on that side that's gonna break up my outline, and in these situations I would just not hunt that area because I didn't want to risk bad wind, ect. Now I'm able to hunt these trees with a more open pattern, and I don't get picked off.

My largest food plot has a stand on it that is only good when we get a north wind (rare). The past 2 years, we didn't get a north wind until the leaves dropped. Last season (2006) I hunted it late season, had the deer come out, and I was immediately picked off. This season, the same deer came out (same family group), same trail, same stand, same everything........and they stood around at less than 20 yards for the better part of a half hour.

Here is a pic of that tree from the plot just to give you an idea. It's fairly open here, with all the leaves on the tree........with no leaves you just feel naked in this tree but with the open camo.....I went unnoticed for an extended amount of time. I was picked off immediately under the same conditions by the same deer the year before.

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Rick nice post.

I do they exact samething when I setup.
Being I have about every pattern now. When I setup a stand now I put what wind to hunt it, and what camo I think will work best;)

The guys who hunt Northen MI and PA where the deer have learned to look up it's a different ball game. I have been in pine trees with 1 little shooting window and deer spot me.
In SLP when I first started hunting I could dance the jig and a deer would not know.[&:]