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Greg / MO 01-20-2008 07:48 PM

RE: Best 3D Rest???
 

You CAN'T beat a Trophy Taker Spring Steel. They are kind of tried and true. Being the dumb lefty I am, I've been waiting on one forever![:@][:@]. I'm sure most of your 3D Gurus (Matt, Matt and TFOX) will agree :D.
Nope, not hardly. The quote below is from Matt / PA in a thread asking about the Zero Effect just a day or two ago.


I've ALWAYS been a huge Muzzy Zero Effect fan, but it hasn't always kept up well with changes in bow geometry and function. I use it where I can and trust it so much it is on the one bow I count on for pinpoint precision, my 3D Constitution. It works perfectly on that bow and is extremely consistent. (The model for parallel limb bows)



mobow 01-20-2008 07:50 PM

RE: Best 3D Rest???
 

Mobo,reliability and simplicity are just a couple reasons.The reason you see more spring steel on the bows of the pros is due to forgiveness and guidance.The spring steel just provides more guidance which equates to forgiveness and does it while be very simple and easy to tune.
Ok, now we may be getting somewhere. BUT......W/ a drop away, the arrow isn't in contact w/ the rest for the full cycle of the cam.....wouldn't that make it inherently more forgiving? What I mean is, the longer the arrow is in contact w/ the rest, the longer the archer has to "mess it up"???

Or am I just completely wacked out here??


GMMAT 01-20-2008 07:51 PM

RE: Best 3D Rest???
 

This is only my opinion, but wouldn't you want to try to use as close to the same sight and rest as you will be usingfor hunting. I mean, if I want to be really proficient for a hunting situation, why would I settle for accessories of a different type on my 3D rig. (I am not a 3D shooter. Yet:D) After all, the shot I take while hunting will always be more important than a foam animal.
My entire setup is going to be different for my 3D rig. From DW.....to arrows.....rest......

The only constant will be my sight.

For hunting....I really only need one pin.....and my rest I appreciate the full containment. I don't need that for 3D. I also don't want to have to worry about the "possibility" of a rope coming loose on a fall away (though it's never happened). If it happens on my hunting rig.....I simply drive 2 mi. to my shop....or 1 mi.to my shop owner's house. I want someting on my 3D rig "I" can work with.

Matt/TN 01-20-2008 07:51 PM

RE: Best 3D Rest???
 
I'll agree with the statement that a good shooter can shoot any rest. I just don't see how it can be as accurate, but I guess I'm wrong as usual :D.


LouisianaTomkat 01-20-2008 07:51 PM

RE: Best 3D Rest???
 

This is only my opinion, but wouldn't you want to try to use as close to the same sight and rest as you will be usingfor hunting. I mean, if I want to be really proficient for a hunting situation, why would I settle for accessories of a different type on my 3D rig. (I am not a 3D shooter. Yet:D) After all, the shot I take while hunting will always be more important than a foam animal.

LT
Can someone give an educated answer here to my reasoning above.

Thansk, LT

GMMAT 01-20-2008 07:53 PM

RE: Best 3D Rest???
 
Mobo....

The arrow is STILL in contact with the string!;)

Washington Hunter 01-20-2008 07:54 PM

RE: Best 3D Rest???
 

ORIGINAL: Matt/TN

I'll agree with the statement that a good shooter can shoot any rest. I just don't see how it can be as accurate, but I guess I'm wrong as usual :D.

Why not?

What about the rest makes it so much less accurate than any other rest?

Fletching contact? The fact that the arrow moves around at the shot (according to the video you posted of the early model/today's bowfishing model WB?)

What makes it less accurate? Just saying so doesn't cut it.

LouisianaTomkat 01-20-2008 07:54 PM

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No problem GMMAT. I just don't understand some of the logic behind having 2 different setups.

LT

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-20-2008 07:56 PM

RE: Best 3D Rest???
 

ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat


This is only my opinion, but wouldn't you want to try to use as close to the same sight and rest as you will be usingfor hunting. I mean, if I want to be really proficient for a hunting situation, why would I settle for accessories of a different type on my 3D rig. (I am not a 3D shooter. Yet:D) After all, the shot I take while hunting will always be more important than a foam animal.

LT

Can someone give an educated answer here to my reasoning above.

Thansk, LT
That has a lot of merit, more than anything, it's gadgetry.


It's what you want out of 3D is how you should approach 3D.

mobow 01-20-2008 07:57 PM

RE: Best 3D Rest???
 

ORIGINAL: Matt/TN

I'll agree with the statement that a good shooter can shoot any rest. I just don't see how it can be as accurate, but I guess I'm wrong as usual :D.

Dude, it's simply not about who's right and who's wrong. But your statement makes absolutely ZERO sense. Why would a rest be ok at 20, but no farther?? Or even 30?? I'm not a fan of the WB either, but they are JUST as accurate. I know an awful lot of people that shoot w/ them, and they can hit what they're aiming at from pretty far away. Like anything else, if the bow is tuned properly w/ the right arrows.....That's most of the battle.

So, what happens past 20 yards that makes that rest suddenly less accurate than it was at 20?


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