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Not sure if anyone remembers this or not... But this (yet again) goes to show you that these boards do drive archery innovation.

In this thread,Huntingbry and Iparsed out the ideaof a laser rangefinding sight that ranges the target and runs the ballistics internally, then spits out an aimpoint that is dead-on, all the time.
http://huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2066717&mpage=1&key=laser&#2 066717

Well, enter the Pearson Deliverance.
A new bow from Pearson called the Deliverence. It is a shoot through, but it shoots through a hole the exact size of a whisker biscuit replacement core. And you can use the whisker biscuit or it is tapped for any other sight you may wish to use. The bow is ambidextrous...all you do is move the cable guard to the other side, and change cams (no need for the dealers to stock lefty and righty bows!) Now here's the scary part...it has a built in range finder. It is activated when you draw or when you push a button, then in your sight window it activates a red dot. Once the yardage to your target is calibrated, it appears as a number at the bottom of your sight window. But it gets better...the dot it creates in the sight window moves up or down to be accurate at the distance calculated, and as your deer or target moves, the dot recalibrates so that it is always accurate. It will cost around $900, but it has the sight and rangefinder built in.

Here's a picture of the bow with the target unit installed.

...and to think... Y'all poo poo'ed our idea and said we were plum crazy. :eek: Imagine that. LMAO

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Seems like they have taken an OLD design and made it better.I remember seeing a bow mounted rangfinder several years ago but it just never seemed to take off.

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Good call

Bad call[8D]

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Would be illegal here in ND.

Telescopic sights, range finding devices, battery-powered or electronically lighted sights or other electronic devices attached to the bow, or the arrow, are not permitted.

Tim

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And there you have it folks, stick that sight on your old shoulder fired Xbow cocked, locked and ready to rock, and we have again moved one step closer to seeing a combined deer season.
Some of ushave seenit comming for years, some of us cant see past the end of our nose! [:@]
Where is the line?

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Well, I'll be.

Fran, it looks like you and I aren't as crazy as everyone thought we were when you first brought up this idea and I said it was plausible. I really like the idea of an ambidextrous bow too being a left. Pearson comes out with some very innovative designs. I like the way they let the customers build the Stealth a few years ago. They make some fine bows, I know a few friends that have them, but they don't do much in the way of marketing.

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Bry - this is exactly the same design that you described a year ago. Everything down to the red dots. LOL

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Dang, this hunting stuff is sure going to be easy........:D

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not very primative,takes alot of the instincts out of it, y not just shoot a crossbow and be done with it.?

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Sounds like a great idea, however it would be illegal in most states,and probably illegal in all states soon. Great for target shooting at unknown distances.

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wow.....

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Not illegal in NY. AsI read the regulations, it is only illegal if it projects a dot or light onto the target. Does seem to take a lot of the "skill factor" out of it, though.

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Take away the range finder and red dot sight and wotcha got? A 20 year oldriser design. LOL :D

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Looks cool but where is the challenge and fun in that...what about " the one that got away cus you missed " stories at camp afterwards?

Just another gadget...I woouldn't hunt with one cus it would feel like cheating...

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I've said the same thing myself! What a joke!

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And (I gotta ask) who decided to name it Deliverence??:eek: I can hear the banjos now!

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I think the red dot is beamed to establish the range and the target aiming comes from suspended pins..kinda of like the Summit sight. Does any one know the weight and axle to axle?

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i think its going a little to far!!!!

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What happens when your battery dies or it looses calibration. In a realistic situation it may be disfunctional as well. Can you imagine following a deer through the thick brush and your dot moving up and down. Itmay cost youthat big one. Don't get me wrong, it is a good technological achievement but it is hardly necessary. It won't be in my closet.

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in some strange way, i feel insulted by this product and this company

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That may just be the ticket for when I mount a whaling harpoon on my alpha hang-on.;)

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I have a hard time calling ANY modern compound bow a primitive weapon ....

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I don't currently own any traditional equipment, but I agree with you PT. As far as that goes neither does a lot of equipment the some of the modern day bowhunters use today. Rangefinders, battery powered lighted sights, weight forward arrow shafts, broadheads that open up after they hit, etc.

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this is what compounds have brought to archery. truth is, if you shoot compounds, then yo ucannot say one damn thing about this bow - its just a tech up from what you shoot is all. its all in the name of making bowhunters more accurate, less wounding, etc right ?

if you want to truly bowhunt, go traditional equipment, everything else is a bastardization of what archery should be anyway, just varying degrees

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Not what will be our excuse when we miss:D

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At first glance it looks cool, but I see some problems/disadvantages with it. Choppers already brought up a few of them. That also leaves you stuck with using the sight that comes with the bow, which uses optics and electronics. Two things I don't personally care to have on my bow. What happens in bad conditions when the optics get wet, fog up or something else happens, and there is the issue with the batteries or an electronics failure. It also doesn't leave many options for sight mounting and adjustment. Not everyone uses the sights in the same location depending on how they hold and anchor the bow. How much adjustment is in the sight? What if I want to shoot 50, 60, 70 or more yards? How far will it range and adjust. Not saying I would shoot a deer that far, but I do shoot at those distances. And can assure you if it ranges that far some moron will take a shot that far. I don't see the point of getting a $900 bow with a shoot through target riser if I can't shoot long distances with it.

Also if it ranges and moves the dot accordingly why are there three dots in the picture? That really confuses me right there, and I'm just looking at the picture, not trying to shoot a deer in a stressful environment;).

I sort of like the rangefinder idea, but don't care much for the built in sight. I would prefer to use my own sighting system honestly.

This would be something I would love to see on my rifle, but these scopes are $900 alone and they don't adjust the cross hairs for the shot that I know of.

And by the way, if it is moving the dot to correct for yardage wouldn't you have to program the ballistics of your arrow into it? I would think at the very least would need to know the weight and speed of the arrow, maybe a few other things.

I won't even touch the ethics part of using it.

You wouldn't be to popular at the 3-D range either;).

I'm not overly excited about that particular shoot through design either. I would rather see the rangefinder/sight gone and have a more open shoot through area than that little circle.

My opinions and nothing more.

Paul