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Charlie P 01-10-2008 11:59 AM

RE: All this location talk got me thinking
 

No argument, Atlas....just a question. Given MY situation....do you think I'm doing the right thing.....eliminating "so many" does? I can see both sides.....but I feel like I'm doing the right thing.

Interested in your thoughts

Could you start your own thread then, please.




If you have highly pressured the deer and he has not, he's gonna have more deer visit him, at least in shooting light.
Ok both have 200 acres both have ample bedding,there is a wide river at the back of both of the properties, the surronding area's,hmm, some pratice QDM some don't. Hunting pressure is low on both properties.

Schultzy 01-10-2008 12:09 PM

RE: All this location talk got me thinking
 

ORIGINAL: Charlie P



Ok both have 200 acres both have ample bedding,there is a wide river at the back of both of the properties, the surronding area's,hmm, some pratice QDM some don't. Hunting pressure is low on both properties.
I'm sure yours would be good as well during all phases of the rut. I've got 3 different big woods with in a mile of me that I know were all seeing the same bucks on. A guy needs a little luck too and hope there in your woods when your there hunting.

Germ 01-10-2008 12:14 PM

RE: All this location talk got me thinking
 


Do you think my location will improve, pre-rut,Peak Rut, and post rut?
YES, without a doubt. There are a few big QDM co-ops here in MI. What tends to happen is neighbors turn into QDMer's without even knowing[&:]





TJF 01-10-2008 12:15 PM

RE: All this location talk got me thinking
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


If your land holds does then the bucks will show up sooner or later..........why guys want to eliminate so many does is questionable logic to me at best.
No argument, Atlas....just a question. Given MY situation....do you think I'm doing the right thing.....eliminating "so many" does? I can see both sides.....but I feel like I'm doing the right thing.

Interested in your thoughts.
not Atlas but yes you are doing the right thing.

1. You are improving the buck to doe ratio by shooting more does.

2. By thinning the doe population you are thinning your future deer population but making conditions better...

A. More food is available for the remaining deerby havingless deer. meaning healthy deer with less stress.

B. Bucks will compete more with less does. That is always a good thing. The toughest and most agressivebucks should do more breeding in this senerio. Those genes will be passed on making a better quality deer population in future years.


There are many more but don't have the time to list them all.

Tim

GMMAT 01-10-2008 12:23 PM

RE: All this location talk got me thinking
 

Ok both have 200 acres both have ample bedding,there is a wide river at the back of both of the properties, the surronding area's,hmm, some pratice QDM some don't. Hunting pressure is low on both properties.
400 acres???

You're both hunting the same herd.

Charlie P 01-10-2008 12:30 PM

RE: All this location talk got me thinking
 
Make it 2000 acres then you both have 2000 acres.

A buck could be on the other 200 acres and you won't see him come on yours, happens all the time btw.

Until the rut kicks in.;)

GMMAT 01-10-2008 12:44 PM

RE: All this location talk got me thinking
 
I've never had the experience of hunting "different" herds......but if you're not practicing QDM and your neighbor is......it would stand to reason you're gonna reap some of thebenefits of his efforts.....especially when the bucks expand their home range (during the rut).

And I agree with you Charlie (in that some bucks don't "travel"). I've yet to see a "traveler" buck wander through the area I hunt (and I understand I'm 'sharing' a herd with several other landowners/lease holders). I'm sure they come through. I just haven't seen them. With as many does as I/we have.....they don't have to travel, much. It would be like leaving bar "A" where there's 30 hot women......to go to bar "B" where there's simply a different 30. What's the point (if you're a deer.....and looks don't factor in to the equation)?

Without knowing it (or intending to).....he's helping you (adjacent landowner). Germ nailed that.

brucelanthier 01-10-2008 12:52 PM

RE: All this location talk got me thinking
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

What's the point (if you're a deer.....and looks don't factor in to the equation)?

Cheaper drinks?

Charlie P 01-10-2008 12:55 PM

RE: All this location talk got me thinking
 
GMMAT, We're not talking about your hunting area, this is just a scenario I thought up. Unless your hunting area is like the one I mentioned why bring it up? Everyone knows exactly what your hunting situation is ok?

Double Creek 01-10-2008 01:12 PM

RE: All this location talk got me thinking
 
Yes, given equal hunting pressure on both properties.


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