HuntingNet.com Forums

HuntingNet.com Forums (https://www.huntingnet.com/forum/)
-   Bowhunting (https://www.huntingnet.com/forum/bowhunting-18/)
-   -   The way the indians did it - Bowhunting (https://www.huntingnet.com/forum/bowhunting/226353-way-indians-did-bowhunting.html)

GMMAT 01-09-2008 12:00 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

The bug bit, and will continue to feed on you till you do.
Bob told me this before I knew it.

How about that?;)

Gundeck 01-09-2008 12:24 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 
I didn't get my first compound until about '85. I don't know about longbows, but I am seriously considering getting a recurve again. It is just a whole different world.

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-09-2008 12:36 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

ORIGINAL: rybohunter


ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


If you have not killed with sticks and stones you may not truly realize how hard bowhunting really is.
That was a great post minus that one line quoted above. If a guy can hit his mark, 10 out of 10 at 20 yards regardless of weapon, it's not harder one way or another, it's about getting the animal at that 20 yards, not hitting him.
But the amount of time/effort and skill to be able to hitthat mark 10 of 10 with stick & string compared to modern compound is WORLDS apart. Even to those very familiar with bows all thier lives.
But that's bow shooting, NOT bowhunting.

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-09-2008 12:39 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: MichiganWhitetails74

I'm not sending this to upset anyone but I want to educate those that have not had this experience..

I am an active compound shooter and I like to make sure my broadheads and arrows are straight and true...

However...

Please take the time to read this......

At 21 years old.....1995 I dumped the compound and changed my ways...My uncle and I madeour own osage stick bows out of osage orange. The bows had lots of character and many curves from tip to tip. When I drew the bow it felt like my shoulders were going to explode. When I neared full draw my whole body shook as I tried to hold steady and fire that cedar arrow off my knuckle. This was not a recurve......it was bare bones like the indians did it....

Listen closely...my arrows were made of cedar.....the broadheads were flint heads...they were held onto the arrow with dried deer tendons....the fletchings were turkey feathers...also held on by dried deer tendons.....

I practiced with this bow and held 6 inch groups at 18 yards...when I was finished shooting my hands were scared from the fletchings wearing away at my hand...

I am a compound shooter now-----but I want compound shooters to learn from this.....If you have not tried bare bones shooting like the indians did hundreds of years ago you must do it...:"if it is in your heart to try it".... in this life that you live you must do it in respect of the hunt and respect for what you have for the animal.....after you do it....if you decide to quit.....at least you can say..."I understand".... how it was to live like the indians did..."remember what your heart is telling you"

I am a compound shooter...I am reminding you again....however....realize this......I learned this.....It does not matter what broadhead you have.....the name brand.....the cutting diameter.....or how sharp you made the broadhead after you shot it in the dirt.....When you send an arrow threw the air with a piece of wood...with a stone on the end....at 15 yards...that stone will poke a hole in the vitals....if you make a good shot....when you make a hole in the mid section of an animal it bleeds and dies....it does not matter if you shoot a 15 dollar broadhead or a stone on a stick....an open hole in the mid- section of an animal causes the animal to blead.....make the right shot....in the vitals....and you will go home happy...please remember this when you are at cabelas studying what to buy......whether you are like an indian....or going with full technology....its about making a hole in the vitals for the animal to bleed.......try traditional archery before your last day on earth....harvest an animal at least once...and you will change your outlook on what bare bones hunting is all about....remember.....stones makes holes too....and the animal bleeds....they are also very deadly........If you have not killed with sticks and stones you may not truly realize how hard bowhunting really is........life is too short......try it..........Good Luck
That's nice, but Indian would have shot a compound instead of a stick bow;)

I am always love "it's harder" argument like the indians. They need to feed their familes, they would have a Bowtech with Carbon arrows and a rage in a heartbeat over stick and stone.

I have no desire to shoot bows from 500 years ago. I suggest if you like the indian ways, try living it. Now that would be truly hard;) Something to write about


And to add, harder like the natives, they would build fires to drive game to the awaiting hunters, Would you? Many here are discusted at driving deer, indians used this method to the utmost.

Would you run down your game on the back of a horse?

There is more to consider.

And they absolutely would go to the compound or crossbow just as they went to the rifle.

Not to dimish the success of traditional hunters but my point still stands. 10 out of 10, it's not the shooting, it's the hunt.

GR8atta2d 01-09-2008 12:41 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: rybohunter


ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


If you have not killed with sticks and stones you may not truly realize how hard bowhunting really is.
That was a great post minus that one line quoted above. If a guy can hit his mark, 10 out of 10 at 20 yards regardless of weapon, it's not harder one way or another, it's about getting the animal at that 20 yards, not hitting him.
But the amount of time/effort and skill to be able to hitthat mark 10 of 10 with stick & string compared to modern compound is WORLDS apart. Even to those very familiar with bows all thier lives.
But that's bow shooting, NOT bowhunting.
Now go 1 step further and remove the word Bow....is an animal at 20 yards any less a trophy with Gun?? We can all hit the "spot" 10 out of 10 times ..that was a given. Does the projectile make the difference?

Or did I take an elite-est thread and spin it farther than any of the participants expected?

GMMAT 01-09-2008 12:43 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 
Rob I'm failing to grasp your point.

If it's the "shooting" that's the difference......what's the difference in the bowkill and the ML kill from 50 yds? Are they to be viewed as "equal"....and both simplified to "hunting"?

Help me out.

rybohunter 01-09-2008 12:47 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Rob I'm failing to grasp your point.

If it's the "shooting" that's the difference......what's the difference in the bowkill and the ML kill from 50 yds? Are they to be viewed as "equal"....and both simplified to "hunting"?

Help me out.
I'm with him. I don't understand either.



bigcountry 01-09-2008 12:49 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

ORIGINAL: rybohunter


ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Rob I'm failing to grasp your point.

If it's the "shooting" that's the difference......what's the difference in the bowkill and the ML kill from 50 yds? Are they to be viewed as "equal"....and both simplified to "hunting"?

Help me out.
I'm with him. I don't understand either.


Me three

Charlie P 01-09-2008 12:49 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 
I think what the OP was saying was if you take bowhunting to it's most primitive roots and can be more meaningful to you, and make you appreciate it more.

Germ 01-09-2008 12:51 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d


ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: rybohunter


ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


If you have not killed with sticks and stones you may not truly realize how hard bowhunting really is.
That was a great post minus that one line quoted above. If a guy can hit his mark, 10 out of 10 at 20 yards regardless of weapon, it's not harder one way or another, it's about getting the animal at that 20 yards, not hitting him.
But the amount of time/effort and skill to be able to hitthat mark 10 of 10 with stick & string compared to modern compound is WORLDS apart. Even to those very familiar with bows all thier lives.
But that's bow shooting, NOT bowhunting.
Now go 1 step further and remove the word Bow....is an animal at 20 yards any less a trophy with Gun?? We can all hit the "spot" 10 out of 10 times ..that was a given. Does the projectile make the difference?

Or did I take an elite-est thread and spin it farther than any of the participants expected?

I thought you were leaving until July[:-]


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:07 PM.


Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.