The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
01-09-2008 | 09:13 PM
#131
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RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
It would have been harder to get a shot off with a compound so a compound hunt could be harder?
If he'd had the compound....he wouldn't have been limited to the yardage.
If he'd had the compound......he might have drawn, earlier.
I'm betting he'd practiced the shot he took about as many times with the compound as he had with the recurve
01-09-2008 | 09:13 PM
#132
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RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I'll ask you the same thing I asked the rifle guys then, Rob.
If God called down and told you you had to kill a deer, tomorrow (the stakes being your life).....fair chase hunting.....and he gave you the choice of a compound or a trad bow......
Which one would you take?
Even if the big man promised you he'd send you one by at 10yds......I'm betting guys who are proficient with both would rather take their chances with the wheelie bows.
I'll ask you the same thing I asked the rifle guys then, Rob.
If God called down and told you you had to kill a deer, tomorrow (the stakes being your life).....fair chase hunting.....and he gave you the choice of a compound or a trad bow......
Which one would you take?
Even if the big man promised you he'd send you one by at 10yds......I'm betting guys who are proficient with both would rather take their chances with the wheelie bows.
My trad bow.......
(only b/c I dont own a compound
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01-09-2008 | 09:15 PM
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RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
ORIGINAL: rybohunter
How is that silly? While yes its not good to practice until you develope bad habits, 50 shots a weeks is less than 10 a day. Everything I've read talks about shooting until its second nature. 10 shots a day is not going to make something second nature. How about blank baling just to work on release? I'd venture to guess most people are going to advocate much more than 50 arrows a week to develope a compitent level of shooting.
How is that silly? While yes its not good to practice until you develope bad habits, 50 shots a weeks is less than 10 a day. Everything I've read talks about shooting until its second nature. 10 shots a day is not going to make something second nature. How about blank baling just to work on release? I'd venture to guess most people are going to advocate much more than 50 arrows a week to develope a compitent level of shooting.
01-09-2008 | 09:16 PM
#134
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RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
Sure, when I see a trad bow kill, I give that a little more respect b/c I know the dedication to shooting it takes... Sames as gun vs compound in my eyes.... Maybe its elitist, but I give much more respect to a bow kill vs gun... Distance of shot is not considered.
don't think you're giving the difference in the difficulty (between the two weapons we're "really" talking about.....compound v. trad) its' due. Just my opinion.
I'm not disrespecting traditional bowhunters in anyway shape or form, I love seeing the stick and string laying across a deer but there is way more variables in the "hardness" of a hunt other than that.
01-09-2008 | 09:18 PM
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RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
Whats silly is, I rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week, and some weeks skip, and still bet you anytime I can hit a 3D target at 20 yards. Some of the best trad shooters I know, rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week.
Whats silly is, I rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week, and some weeks skip, and still bet you anytime I can hit a 3D target at 20 yards. Some of the best trad shooters I know, rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week.
BUT, they also have completely developed their form! I dont shoot much anymore either, but I probably shot 300 arrow a week for 2 years.... I pretty much know my bow and my form now.....It doesnt take a whole lot to maintain it out to 20yds.... Now, you start talking 25+yds, yes, I need daily form practice.
I see both sides of the number of arrows issue.
01-09-2008 | 09:25 PM
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RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I was hoping you wouldn't go there......lol
If he'd had the compound....he wouldn't have been limited to the yardage.
If he'd had the compound......he might have drawn, earlier.
I'm betting he'd practiced the shot he took about as many times with the compound as he had with the recurve
It would have been harder to get a shot off with a compound so a compound hunt could be harder?
If he'd had the compound....he wouldn't have been limited to the yardage.
If he'd had the compound......he might have drawn, earlier.
I'm betting he'd practiced the shot he took about as many times with the compound as he had with the recurve
[8D]
01-09-2008 | 09:25 PM
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RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
ORIGINAL: Double Creek
BUT, they also have completely developed their form! I dont shoot much anymore either, but I probably shot 300 arrow a week for 2 years.... I pretty much know my bow and my form now.....It doesnt take a whole lot to maintain it out to 20yds.... Now, you start talking 25+yds, yes, I need daily form practice.
I see both sides of the number of arrows issue.
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
Whats silly is, I rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week, and some weeks skip, and still bet you anytime I can hit a 3D target at 20 yards. Some of the best trad shooters I know, rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week.
Whats silly is, I rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week, and some weeks skip, and still bet you anytime I can hit a 3D target at 20 yards. Some of the best trad shooters I know, rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week.
BUT, they also have completely developed their form! I dont shoot much anymore either, but I probably shot 300 arrow a week for 2 years.... I pretty much know my bow and my form now.....It doesnt take a whole lot to maintain it out to 20yds.... Now, you start talking 25+yds, yes, I need daily form practice.
I see both sides of the number of arrows issue.
01-09-2008 | 09:27 PM
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RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
No no Jeff, hopefully he'll come by the thread but there was zero time to draw ahead of time, he was knocking the arrow as the deer was skidding to a stop. There was no drawing ahead and the distance was the distance, BAM the deer was there, The recurve made it easier. [8D]
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I was hoping you wouldn't go there......lol
If he'd had the compound....he wouldn't have been limited to the yardage.
If he'd had the compound......he might have drawn, earlier.
I'm betting he'd practiced the shot he took about as many times with the compound as he had with the recurve
It would have been harder to get a shot off with a compound so a compound hunt could be harder?
If he'd had the compound....he wouldn't have been limited to the yardage.
If he'd had the compound......he might have drawn, earlier.
I'm betting he'd practiced the shot he took about as many times with the compound as he had with the recurve
[8D]
01-09-2008 | 09:29 PM
#140
Boone & Crockett
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RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
Ok, let me get this right from an experienced bowhunter as yourself. Your saying this is a norm and not a cornercase??
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
No no Jeff, hopefully he'll come by the thread but there was zero time to draw ahead of time, he was knocking the arrow as the deer was skidding to a stop. There was no drawing ahead and the distance was the distance, BAM the deer was there, The recurve made it easier. [8D]
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I was hoping you wouldn't go there......lol
If he'd had the compound....he wouldn't have been limited to the yardage.
If he'd had the compound......he might have drawn, earlier.
I'm betting he'd practiced the shot he took about as many times with the compound as he had with the recurve
It would have been harder to get a shot off with a compound so a compound hunt could be harder?
If he'd had the compound....he wouldn't have been limited to the yardage.
If he'd had the compound......he might have drawn, earlier.
I'm betting he'd practiced the shot he took about as many times with the compound as he had with the recurve
[8D]
Every hunt, every scenerio differs even within the same person but it's a valid point.