"Baiting Vs. Food Plots"
 

ok so here in georgia you cannot hunt within 200 yards of bait. but you can hunt over a food plot that you create and put there. to me this just doesn't make sense. i have been wondering what yall think about this for some time now.

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Food plots are far different than bait piles as far as I'm concerned. I'm not going to get into the legalities or ethics of it tho but look at it this way.

A food plot could be 50 acres or it could be a 1/4 acre. You cannot put these into the same catagorie as a pile of corn 10 yards from a stand. A deer could visit the food plot and never offer an inrange bow shot.

That being said, in PA it's legal to plant and hunt over food plots, it is not legal to bait. Why is a food plot different from a farmers corn or alphalpha field?

Why is a pile of apples different than hunting a 50 acre apple orchard.

Your poll is too vague.

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Beat me to it Rob. To each their own is all that matters as long as they abide by their local laws.

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its just to me the idea of inserting a food plot in the woods seems the same as baiting. but hey we will all have our disagreements and agreements and thats why its called america lol

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So if I spread my "bait pile" or corn over 1/4 acer I should be good. I think that hunting over a pile of corn may give you a little bit of an advantage over the food plot but......they are both as good at "drawing" deer to your stand....if you sit over your food plot you will get the job done just the same as sitting over a pile of corn, it just might take you a day or two longer.;)

C

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not if you are gun hunters like the majoritey of hunters. thats why i view them the same. not everyone bowhunts like us. some of these people can and will shoot 300+ yards. i saw a guy shoot a deer at 400 yards i think he said it was on t.v.

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Is that what is done for bowhunting?

Answer the rest of my questions as well, not just one that you want to make a point with. What is different between a food plot and a corn field? What is different between a food plot and an alphalpha field or soybean field or an apple orchard or a acorn flat etc....Do you catagorized putting a pile of corn out the same as all the forementioned fields?

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A food plot is there the whole year not the week you are hunting it.

And if you failed math then I guess the circumference of a two acre corn field would baffle those of you don't that know the circumference of five gallons of corn.

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Some plots aren't there the whole year. They are seasonal plots.

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Market that two week corn ,and then you won't have to spend time here showing your .......................[:o]

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Acorns are seasonal too, do you put, putting out corn in the same catagory as hunting over a white oak dropping acorns?

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Are you shaking the oak tree hard enough to get it to drop all of its acorns at once? :D

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How about that quick grown clover hell its up and gone so quick that with out a bucket of corn I don't its worth planting.;)

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As for this "argument" I've argued it enough so I am staying out of this one. However, you stated that food plots are there all year. This is not true with some plots.

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What is the fastest growing food plot that is available? There are no two week food plots ,they take time and money,neither of the things baiting takes.

As far as arguing this point you are unarmed and misguided in this battle and well served to quit.

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when i was in KY it was legal to bait i but out 100 pounds off corn a week 50 pounds every three days
did this January to December all year i saw 10 to 15 deer in the area of the corn every morning then a few in the afternoon

so i had no problem with them going nocturnal
i had it out all year every week one reason to feed the deer and get them better another to draw them in where i wonted them
and even with the corn i still drove down the road to hunt the public land

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Who cares, as long as everybody is hunting legally, to each his own! I didn't bother to vote!

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No one said anything about a two week food plot. Seasonal plots don't grow 12 months as you stated.

As for your other comment. You have noclue of my knowledge or experince in food plots, baiting, or any other areas of hunting. As usuall youtry to use your smartmouth to bash someone.

It doesn't take money to bait? Living in a state where both baiting and food plots are legal, I highly suggest you ask people who bait all year around such as feeders and thoughs and I assure you that at the end of the year their total expenses are a lot higher than planting a foodplot.

Most of my hunting is done on public land in which neither is allowed.

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Food plots do more then just feed deer, they feed the pheasants, squirrels, the predators that eat the small game in the food plots! Food plots are very high in nutrients as well, no bucket of corn every week will do that! The food plots in the northern states with the snow do the deer and other omnivorous animals a heck of a treat! I will have one someday myself! Food plots are no different then a cornfield standing full of corn, they just cost a heck of allot more!

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Okay......

The difference between a Food plot and a Corn field, Alphalpha field, Soybean field, and an Apple Orchard is. One is put there to attract deer (Food Plots....weather it is clover, soybeans corn fields etc.), or bait them to a specific area, the others arethere for agricultural purposes/reasons (Mainly feeding people or live stock).

Do I categorize putting a pile of corn out the same as the fore mentioned fields? Most defiantly not, nor did I ever try to. I was only pointing out your misguided logic in the statement made in your first reply....the fact that if the plot is bigger then a pile of corn it is better, that is just plain silly.;)

I believe that there is little difference in baiting deer with a clover field vs. a corn pile, they both have the same effect.....drawing deer near the hunter. I feel that people have very little merit saying one is better than the other, or more ethical.

I am not trying to tell you one method is correct, better, or more ethical. If the rule book in your state says one way is correct, then that is what the hunter needs to follow, it's that simple. I am saying that there is very little difference between the two.

C

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Excellent post Cloudster!!!!!!!! Respect!:)

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I agree with Rob completely. Comparing a food plot (or agricultural field) to a pile of bait CAN'T be done. Not even close. Yes, they both are something for the deer to eat, but that is about as close as it gets. There is also a difference between putting something out to feed deer, and setting up over it to kill a deer. I don't care if you bait - if its legal and it floats your boat...go for it. Personally I'd quit hunting before I'd hunt over a pile of corn or apples. Poll is too vague, and argument too big.

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I have the feeling circumference was deleted from some of our membersschooling?:eek:

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I hunt over my food plot to kill something, Seems like the same as setting up over a baitpile, deer come, eat and hopefully get killed! What's the difference???

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Far from it.

So explain the difference in placing a stand over either saying that they are both 50 acres in size compared to a 55 gallon pile of corn 10 yards from a stand?

How is it misguided or even silly if you yourself wouldn't catagorize them the same. I never said that " if the plot is bigger than a pile of corn, it is better". That doesn't even make sense.

I said:

He said:

Again, I said:

But you do if it's planted for agricultural reasons?

And BHF,

that made it an excellent post?

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I'm not disagreeing with you at all. Food plots do more then get deer shot off of them though. Excellent nutrition, alot of other omniverous critters eat off of them as well, specialy in the winter, You know that, you live in the northern states!

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I agree Schultzy, they do offer food for all kinds of critters! Thats why I put them in all year long!!!!!:)

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BHF...seriously? There is no comparison. Yes, you can hunt over a food plot and kill deer....no doubt. BUT...the big difference is you have to get them within range. A bait pile automatically puts them within range.

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This subject has been beat in the dirt some many times. For every "Pro" there's a "con".

Here are some of my thoughts.

A HUNTING food plot is planted to HUNT over and bring in deer. Same as bait.
-So in that, they are the same.

Corn isn't very nutrional. Hardly any protien. Food plots may offer better nutrition.
-Food plots win this one.

Food plots feed more than deer. So does corn. I've even seen foxes eat corn.
-So in that, they are the same.

As one of our members incorrectly stated, food plots are more expensive.
-This is not true. corn is $5+ a bag and deer may eat a bag in two days. Do that math with a season like ours which runs from Aug-Jan.

Food plots are there all year around. Again, wrong. NOT all food plots are there all year. Some people put out feed all year in feeders and such.
-Either can be all year.

I could go on and on..

but do you get my point?

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And of course larger font gets your point across better than just yellin.....................Kinda like thecap loc does.;)

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;)

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True, they bring game, bait piles to exact yardages, food plots could have deer standing out at 100 yards. In that they are not the same.

That's the only point I'm making. Deer are not necessarily in range when visiting food plots.

I'm not arguing against baiting, I won't even vote because there is no correct answer for me to pick.

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Thats one of the funniest posts I've seen in a while. So, you mean to tell me all I have to do is put out some magical golden nuggest and every deer in the woods will automatically appear in bow range? LoL..thats awesome!!!![:'(]

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This can be true. It can also be untrue.

Just b/c someone puts bait close to a stand doesn't mean that a deer will magically appear. doesn't the deer still have its sences?

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Illinois for example doesn't allow baiting or feeders due to making it easier to spread CWD and EHD. One big minus for baiting.

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That's not the question, the question is, if they come to it....

The deer has it's senses if they come to a food plot too.

And let's put a bag of Acorn Rage or Come 'ere Deer in the same catagory of a food plot...I think NOT. ;)

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Whats so funny about it...its true. If you set the pile 10-15yds away...and they come, are they NOT in range? I know plenty of guys that hunt over bait....its like shooting ducks in a barrel most times. The does and fawns come like someone is ringing a dinner bell. Big bucks...yes, not so often.

And I will say...yes, sometimes they don't come...that is not my point. My point is...IF they come, they are in range. On an ag field, as Rob stated....they could be 100yds away or more.

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There are guys who knock down trees and put rockpiles around the edges of the plot to make the deer enter/exit thru a certain area/trail, thus put there stands in this area, there are certain shapes to make food plots, hourglass long and narrow etc... We could go on and on and on.......... I didn't vote either!;):D

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I think hunting near any food source which is why I hunt in the middle of a desert... come to think of it I haven't seen a deer in a couple years... hmm wonder where they went!?!?! :D

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True dat, who has that Beating a Dead Horse smily? ;) [8D]