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seller 12-04-2007 04:19 PM

Neck shot
 
Is there ever a situation where you would take a neck shot? I would think it would be fatal if you get the spine or the wind pipe.

Charlie P 12-04-2007 04:21 PM

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Rickmur 12-04-2007 04:24 PM

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Never ever for this guy.

GregH 12-04-2007 04:28 PM

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You shoot a deer in the wind pipe and miss the spine or jugular vein, it'll run off and you'll never find it. It will die a long and horrible death. The shot is so low percentage wise it should never be considered.[:'(]

I hope that answers your question.

MN/Kyle 12-04-2007 04:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: GregH

You shoot a deer in the wind pipe and miss the spine or jugular vein, it'll run off and you'll never find it. It will die a long and horrible death. The shot is so low percentage wise it should never be considered.[:'(]

I hope that answers your question.
Annnnnnd THAT should be the END of this chapter!;)

HNI_Christine 12-04-2007 04:35 PM

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No!

This buck was shot through the neck with a shotgun slug. It died 5 weeks after it was shot. (and it picked under my tree as the spot to die)It died from a combination of starvation andinfection. (note the pus around the mouth and entrance wound)




Slug lodged under the hide.



Don't risk it.

MOTOWNHONKEY 12-04-2007 04:38 PM

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Not on purpose.

GeorgiaTomkat 12-04-2007 04:38 PM

RE: Neck shot
 
I disagree. I accidentally hit this buck in the neck (arrow deflected). He ran MAYBE 15-20 yards, and was dead in seconds. There was blood everywhere. It was an accident, though, and would NEVER try to hit a deer in the neck.



GregH 12-04-2007 04:42 PM

RE: Neck shot
 

ORIGINAL: GeorgiaTomkat

I disagree. I accidentally hit this buck in the neck (arrow deflected). He ran MAYBE 15-20 yards, and was dead in seconds. There was blood everywhere. It was an accident, though, and would NEVER try to hit a deer in the neck.

Then what are you disagreeing about! :eek:

GeorgiaTomkat 12-04-2007 04:45 PM

RE: Neck shot
 
that it wouldn't die fast


rybohunter 12-04-2007 04:46 PM

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Never ever a shot that should be taken.

8pt~Bowhunter 12-04-2007 04:55 PM

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matters 12-04-2007 04:56 PM

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With a bow wait on a better shot or don't shoot. Theres not much to shoot for there. If you miss only by a little you have a wounded not a dead deer. With a heart lung shot if your shot is off a little you still have a good chance of hitting the vitals. I have taken deer with a .300 win mag though the neck it causes much more trama and shock to the animal. Even with a rifle I don't like to take neck shoots.

peregordusmc 12-04-2007 05:03 PM

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Thats exactly the kind of shot the PETA freaks feed on. Its unhuman. There are vital spots there but the chances of hitting/cutting one with an arrow are low. Why risk losing a deer weather it be a buck or a doe or anything for that matter.Have respect for the beautiful animal and take a shot that gives you a better chance of recovering the animal and make the suffering minimal.

MNpurple 12-04-2007 05:17 PM

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Dont get me wrong, I wont take this shot, BUT I would say your chances of hitting a vital in the upper part of the neck are extremely good. Say you aim at the white patch area. This part of the neck is maybe 6-7 inches wide in in that area you have to huge vital veins, a windpipe, and the spine. I would say it would be hard not to hit a vital there. It a shot I have been taught to always avoid and I do but it seems like there is alot there to hit, if your in the upper part of the neck?

MNpurple 12-04-2007 05:21 PM

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No biology expert, but if you severe a deers windpipe, is it not automatically dead or would that deer live for some time?

whitetailbowhunter 12-04-2007 05:31 PM

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I accidentally shot a shot doe in the neck last year Think i just hit the wind pipe no jugular vein and i never found it. I wouldn't do it on purpose.

Mat

Rob/PA Bowyer 12-04-2007 05:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: GeorgiaTomkat

that it wouldn't die fast

You got lucky. It's a low percentage shot, not an impossible one but that does not change the fact that it should NOT be attempted on purpose. It will die very fast if you catch the artery in the hams too but would you purposely take a ham shot?

Greg was specifically saying that it is a low percentage shot.

Madjac20 12-04-2007 05:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: seller

Is there ever a situation where you would take a neck shot? I would think it would be fatal if you get the spine or the wind pipe.
No how, no way!!! If you can see a neck shot move back towards the rear of the deer and put you sight behind the shoulder.

seller 12-04-2007 06:53 PM

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i was just asking cuz i have seen alot of guys shootat the rangeand they are very acurrate, and i was just thinking that if you are at 10 yards or less and the only thing you see on the deer is the neck if it would be a good shot. but i guess not.....i did not know i was going to get this many responses....thanks for the advice.....still trying to get my first deer.

in da woods 12-04-2007 06:58 PM

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I have to agree w/the others, a neck shot is too risky. The percentage of error is too great. We all like to make a quick clean kill, & a shot off mark thru the neck has a much better chance of wounding/killing.

gt2003 12-04-2007 07:10 PM

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I wouldn't personally take the shot but I do know afew people who say they prefer the shot so as to not ruin much meat (provided they consider it a "close enough" shot). These are the same people who take head shots. Ithink the broadside shot with or without an exit wound damages very little meatand is much more humane.

hatchet jack 12-04-2007 07:17 PM

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NEVER<EVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVREERVE!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!


Hatchet Jack

jeremy3303 12-04-2007 07:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: MNpurple

No biology expert, but if you severe a deers windpipe, is it not automatically dead or would that deer live for some time?

No, it is not automatically dead. Think of it as a person who has to have a tube in there neck due to throat cancer or something of that nature. The lungs and heart are still functional and still able to breathe. All you are doing by severing the windpipe is creating another opening for air and causing a long, painful death by infection.

MeanV2 12-04-2007 08:56 PM

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I had a Bonafide Hog at 8 yards this year and was at Full Draw. The only shot I had was the neck and yes it was tempting he was so close, but I knew better and did NOT take the shot.

As Bowhunters we have to know when to Hold and when to Let'er Go. It's not always an easy choice;)

Dan

mnbuckman 12-04-2007 10:24 PM

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No Way!

Schultzy 12-04-2007 10:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: seller

i was just asking cuz i have seen alot of guys shootat the rangeand they are very acurrate, and i was just thinking that if you are at 10 yards or less and the only thing you see on the deer is the neck if it would be a good shot. but i guess not.....i did not know i was going to get this many responses....thanks for the advice.....still trying to get my first deer.
You didn't know, thats why you asked and now you know! Very good question on your part! More people should ask questions instead thinking they know it all! Good luck on getting your 1st deer buddy!;)

Bowtech9 12-05-2007 04:57 AM

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NEVER, period.

Rickmur 12-05-2007 05:18 AM

RE: Neck shot
 

ORIGINAL: MNpurple

Dont get me wrong, I wont take this shot, BUT I would say your chances of hitting a vital in the upper part of the neck are extremely good. Say you aim at the white patch area. This part of the neck is maybe 6-7 inches wide in in that area you have to huge vital veins, a windpipe, and the spine. I would say it would be hard not to hit a vital there. It a shot I have been taught to always avoid and I do but it seems like there is alot there to hit, if your in the upper part of the neck?
And say the deer ducked when the bow went off, what your going to hit is snout or mouth or maybe even skull. I cringe even at the thought of that.
And HNI Christine how do you know that deer died 5 weeks later? Because gun season was 5 weeks prior? Could not that deer have been pouched and died sooner than 5 weeks?

OneMustFall 12-05-2007 06:09 AM

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Hunter education course for bow hunting might not be such a bad idea after all,it just amazes me how many times i see questions like this on different forums...
If some body was going to harm you or oyur family and you had a gun would you shoot them in the leg,i dont think so you plugem in the upper torso vitals right,so why should it be any different for a animal........;)

txjourneyman 12-05-2007 06:20 AM

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NEVER!

Planter 12-05-2007 06:20 AM

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20 years aga I hit a small doe right thru the wind pipe in error. I was able to get close enough to her to finish her off but only because I was able to follow the sounds of her trying to suck wind thru the extra hole. Bad Bad shot to take!!!!and an ugly way to die.

GMMAT 12-05-2007 06:25 AM

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What about the shot that's straight on......into the brisket? Would you take that one? I've seen several hit there on this board, it seems.

gt2003 12-05-2007 06:28 AM

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I think I'd stick with broadside or quartering away, maybe even very slightly quartering towards. I would be quite hesitant about a brisket shot but don't have any personal experience to go on. Thoughts?

huntingson 12-05-2007 06:36 AM

RE: Neck shot
 

ORIGINAL: MNpurple

No biology expert, but if you severe a deers windpipe, is it not automatically dead or would that deer live for some time?
It would not die from that alone. It could still breath, just not swallow, so it would die from starvation or infection first. It would be like giving the deer a tracheotomy.

EDIT: sorry, didn't read far enough before posting

Schultzy 12-05-2007 08:04 AM

RE: Neck shot
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

What about the shot that's straight on......into the brisket? Would you take that one? I've seen several hit there on this board, it seems.
Thats a risky shot as well, just not as risky as the neck shot. I won't take a brisket shot, to many things to go wrong. I've passed on 2 different140 class bucksthrough out the yearsbecause that was the only shot presented to me.

Kid 12-05-2007 08:10 AM

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Another vote for never, ever!

Jim_IV 12-05-2007 08:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

What about the shot that's straight on......into the brisket? Would you take that one? I've seen several hit there on this board, it seems.
I have done this when I was YOUNG and STUPID. I would never take that shot again. It was my first shot ever at a deer and I was 15. I should have known better. The buck ran off and I found not one drop of blood. It made me sick and I haven't done anything stupid since.

HNI_Christine 12-05-2007 11:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: Rickmur

And HNI Christine how do you know that deer died 5 weeks later? Because gun season was 5 weeks prior? Could not that deer have been pouched and died sooner than 5 weeks?
I met the oldman who shot the buck while he was outsearching for the deer. He described the buck's antlers, the shot angle, the reaction. (deer initially dropped in it's tracks)

He was looking for that deer nearly every day, for several weeks. He was convinced it had died quickly and was simply laying out there unfound.

Five weeks later...The buck was not there under my standone day when I hunted then two days later there he was. He was so emaciated that his gut was sucked in like a greyhound andhis bones were visible through his fur. What was once probably a 200lb on the hoof buck was down to no morethanhalf that. I cut out the slug, a type I didn't recognize.I posted a picture here on the gun boards and the fine folks her told me it was a brenneke KO. The same that this guy was using.

Same slug, same piece of property, same antler description, (deer that size are few and far between on this property) And unfortunately you could tell by looking at the deer that it had taken it a longwhile to succumb to it's injury. Given all that, it's a pretty safe assumption that it's the same deer.

Okay done rambling.. now to onto redundant photo posting. :)

This is rough way to go. (and the strongest argument I can make against purposeful neck shots)




YooperMike 12-05-2007 11:13 AM

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My wife shot her buck this year in the neck. Hit a limb, arrow deflected, right through the jugular. She called me crying she was so ashamed of the shot. I have NEVER seen blood like that in my life, spraying 5 feet out each side, he didn't make it far.

Definitely not a shot to take, the jugular is a big vein...but REALLY small to think you could hit it on purpose. Not a shot to take intentionally, ever with a bow.


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