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Old 12-04-2007 | 11:57 AM
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Gross all the way! Nets are for fishing!
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Old 12-04-2007 | 12:01 PM
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Gross is the way to go IMO....... Another new take on scoring would be water displacement. Take the total mass of a rack by water displacement would give you the total bone growth of that deer. Kinda wierd but would be a new spin on things. WCL
Now this would be really interesting to see where some of the great ones stack up. Interesting idea.

I'm for gross as well.nets are for fishing and hot women to wear!
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Old 12-04-2007 | 12:13 PM
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gross for sure!
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Old 12-04-2007 | 12:17 PM
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Gross.....
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Old 12-04-2007 | 12:50 PM
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Gross, because the origination/concept of antler scoring came from scoring horns, not antlers.

Symmetry is far more predominate in hornsversus antlers.

There should not be any deductions, one class, throw them all in it.. Big Nontypicals would rule the world! .....


all joking aside... I like to see.......one typical catagory and one straight gross catagory... Why deduct "main frame differences" in a NT as B/C and P/Y do???


If we really want to score them truely, submerge them in water and measure displacement.
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Old 12-04-2007 | 01:10 PM
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The only problem with water displacement, which I originally thought was a terrific idea as well, is how accurately you could really measure them. You would have to have a very large tank, which would mean that to the average Jow, it would be very difficult to measure any better than 1ml, which is equal to 1 cubic centimeter. That isn't very accurate really. Plus, how could your average hunter who just wants to see for fun what his rack scores measure it at all. Another point is how do you measure the rack for displacement at all? Part of the skull would have to be submerged, which would obviously affect everything, unless you dunked 1 side at a time. If you did that, then you would have to split the skull, thus disqualifying it for P&Y or B&C. These are only a few of the problems I ran in to when first thinking this over.
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Old 12-04-2007 | 01:48 PM
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Jim, just a few kinks to work out! we officiallynominate you to create this new scoring system, provide training and change the world of antler measuring!


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Old 12-04-2007 | 01:50 PM
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ORIGINAL: wingchaser_labs

Gross is the way to go IMO....... Another new take on scoring would be water displacement. Take the total mass of a rack by water displacement would give you the total bone growth of that deer. Kinda wierd but would be a new spin on things. WCL
Gotta agree 100%. I have seen both the World record typical (Milo Hanson) buck and the deer it replaced (Jim Jordan) buck and in my opinion the Jordan buck is much more impressive due to it's sheer mass. Even the tines have incredible mass. I would bet if you weighed both racks, or used water displacement, the Jordan buck would be the hands down winner!
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Old 12-04-2007 | 01:51 PM
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I can hear it now...."That buck looks like a 73 ouncer for sure!" Hard to guestimate water displacement on the hoof. You guys sound like advocates for the Buckmaster scoring system: every inch counts but spread is left out (Cant say I agree with that part).
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Old 12-04-2007 | 02:23 PM
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WHY should a deer with a wider rack score higher than one with a narrower rack.....all else being equal?

Somewhere along the way, in deer hunting history........I can see some guys sitting in a room....trying to figure out how the deerthey're shooting are superior to the deer someone else is shooting....and trying to devise a measuring system totilt things their way.
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