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Scott/IL 12-01-2007 07:52 PM

What are this guys chances?
 
I shot a buck in early November with my bow. I knew he was a good and really tall buck, but we could never find him after several 100 yards of tracking (broadhead issues, but thats a WHOLE different story).

Anyways I was shotgun hunting Thursday morning and I had to get down an hour after dawn. Well go figure it gets to be that time so I start packing up and I see a deer coming my way. It just so happens I notice a really nice looking 3.5 yr old 8 pointer coming. I'm checking his rack out and notice he is about 130 inches maybe drops into high 120's.

As he comes closer I check the time and know that there is no way I can shoot him as I would not have time to track him, field dress, etc... Instead I just continue to watch him. As I notice closer I see he is walking with a noticable limp on his front right shoulder. I grab my bino's and check him out closer and can't believe it's the same buck. There was what looked like a scabbed over hairless black spot on his side about where the rib cage ends, in the middle of the body. (Thats the broadhead issue). I keep watching him and he is limping pretty badly and I see him bed down eventually about 250 yards away.

I came back that afternoon and he had since left, but I am wondering that this buck has survived this long. He should be a great one next year and I really want to know if he is going to be alright. The shot should have been lethal had proper penetration taken place, however when we recovered my arrow from him only a few inches were really in him and the arrow had not been in him that long. Maybe 40-50 yards. I'm still hating the fact that he is walking around out there hurt because of me.

bawanajim 12-01-2007 07:58 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
May be we could move this post over to the one with the buck eating with an arrow sticking out of his fore head. We could call it dumb and dumber.[:@]

bawanajim 12-01-2007 08:05 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
I'm going to bed nowbefore some one ask "If I hit a huge buck just a little far back with my F 250 will he still die if my tires arekinda some what bald" MY sisters boy friend says he will be fine because it is still cold out side. And we always keepthe radio on real low. [8D]

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Scott/IL 12-01-2007 08:08 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
bawanajim...I apologize for injuring a buck and you having to learn of it. I did not take what I felt was an unethical shot at all. From my visual Thursday I hit the buck in what should have been a kill shot, however the arrow did not penetrate. I don't even remember how many hours we looked for him, but it was coming close to20 by the time we figured he had survived. This confirmed it. I did not post thisto be ridiculed for the shot, simply asking come winter is this deer going to survive. If so will there be any negative effects to his body health, or rack.

Scott/IL 12-01-2007 08:12 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 

ORIGINAL: DropTine249

His rack is going to show signs of injury next year. If he ws THAT bad, do him a favor and take him out if you can.

But, remember that deer can bounce back nearly 100% from some serious injuries!!
I wouldn't say he was THAT bad. I did not even notice him limping while looking through my scope at him moving through the brush. Once he got within 60 yards and turned broadside I saw him. I would have taken him, but like I said I did not think I had time to properly do the after work.

bawanajim 12-01-2007 08:14 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 

ORIGINAL: Illinois Buck Hunter

bawanajim...I apologize for injuring a buck and you having to learn of it. I did not take what I felt was an unethical shot at all. From my visual Thursday I hit the buck in what should have been a kill shot, however the arrow did not penetrate. I don't even remember how many hours we looked for him, but it was coming close to20 by the time we figured he had survived. This confirmed it. I did not post thisto be ridiculed for the shot, simply asking come winter is this deer going to survive. If so will there be any negative effects to his body health, or rack.
Hell no effects at all he sounds justfine. After a short hospital stay ,couple dozen stiches & six weeks of phyiscal therapy he will be good as new.:eek:

Scott/IL 12-01-2007 08:16 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
Thank you for reminding me not to post such topics on here.

bawanajim 12-01-2007 08:24 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
Your welcome.:eek:

peregordusmc 12-01-2007 08:42 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
Hey Illionois Buck Hunter dont worry about hawanajim. Some people can be real jerks. It is unfortuanate that this happened and if you are honest about taking a well aimed shot then thats that. Crap happens. But like Drop tine said if you get the chance to take him out of his misery do it. If he his limping he is suffering. And just because the wound is scabed over doesnt mean that there isnt an effection that will kill him even slower. No matter what you need to take him out of his misery and hit the targets harder, and make sure something like this doesnt happen again. If it does you might want to think about changingsomething inyour set up or not hunting. I commend you on owning up to this unfortunate event anddont let a little critisism keep you from asking questions and finding solutions to problems.

Scott/IL 12-01-2007 08:45 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
peregordusmc...The afternoon the hunt occured was the first night I had hunted with the new broadheads. I took them off my arrows as soon as I got back to the house and put my others back on.

peregordusmc 12-01-2007 08:54 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
Did you practice with them and tune them?

Sport4 12-01-2007 09:07 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
Wow bawanajim ease off a little. You do not know what actually happened because you were not there. So you cannot assume that it was unethical at all. He made what sounds like a good shot with no penetration.

How far was the shot, and what are you pulling on your bow? I would say he will be fine. Deer are tough animals, but you will notice him next year if you see him. His rack will show the signs of his injury.

wyliescrib 12-02-2007 04:47 AM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
shoot him and he has 0% percent chance of being a very nice buck next year... from what i have noticed, even with people by the way, if something is truly in dire straights they have no appite and dont care to move much if any at all..... this guy appears to be fine just a bit uncomphy with the unicorn thing going on.... just relax guys and give nature time to take care of it.... if you need to shoot something shoot that stump... 'corse that just my opinion... but to answer your question i would say a very good chanch of making it......

rybohunter 12-02-2007 07:53 AM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
Well he obviously is a tough deer. Your wound isn't causing his limp, so he had another encounter that he survived. If you tried to shoot him once, I don't understand why you wouldn't if given another chance. (Besides the whole time restriction thing, I got that) But if he come by again, do what you want.

Hunter Dan7 12-02-2007 09:44 AM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
Bawanajim he made a good shot on him but the arrow dident penatrate. its not his fault so why dont you stop harrasing him. you know how your P.S. thing says long haired freaky need not apply, maby i will put on mine Bawanajim need not Reply.

ero112 12-02-2007 10:14 AM

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Much agreement here Dan

dprsdhunter 12-02-2007 10:16 AM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
Bawaanajim seems like a real jerk---among otherthings
he must be some sort of super hunter

bawanajim 12-02-2007 10:19 AM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 

ORIGINAL: Hunter Dan7

Bawanajim he made a good shot on him but the arrow dident penatrate. its not his fault so why dont you stop harrasing him. you know how your P.S. thing says long haired freaky need not apply, maby i will put on mine Bawanajim need not Reply.
Reread the part about him passing up a 60 yard broad side shot with a scope sighted shoot gun at the same severly limping buck that he previously wounded.

AT this point and time maybe you could point out justexactly whoms fault this little misadventure might be.

bawanajim 12-02-2007 10:27 AM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 

ORIGINAL: dprsdhunter

Bawaanajim seems like a real jerk---among otherthings
he must be some sort of super hunter
Oh yea you write stuff like that.................I just might have feelings don't ya know.;)



The "super hunter" partmight be pushing ita little bit but , thanks just the same. I'm truly humbled.

dprsdhunter 12-02-2007 10:30 AM

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and once again he opens his mouth and prooves Im right

in da woods 12-02-2007 10:37 AM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
I agree with the others, bawa, why don't you back off the guy & give him the benefit of the doubt. there could be alot of factors as to why that arrow didn't penetrate. If it's a mechanical blade, and the shot is on an angle, the broadhead will start opening before fully penetrating, causing the arrow to whip around. Resulting in little penetration. The thing that bugs the hell out of me on this site lately, is the almighty authorities (that have never ever in all eterenity, had a shot go wrong) sit here & condemn people wtih out finding all the facts first. I have backed off from responding or starting forums because of people like you. Let's hear the whole story first. I don't think he took a hundred yard shot with his bow in the first place. As for the gun hunt, can you say with complete authority & knowledge that the deer is limping from his earlier shot? I just went through the same kind of situtation, where I though for sure I killed a buck last month, but to my dismay, could not find him after the hit. My arrow was completely covered in bright red blood. I even brought out people to help me track him. He apparantly only recieved a wounding shot. That is the first deer that I have not killed in 15 yrs of hunting. Now if I had posted that story, I'm sure that I would have been ripped to shreds. IBH- that deer will survive, they have an amazing ability to survive & recover. Whether or not his antler growth will be affected remains to be seen. Should you have taken him? Only you can answer that for sure.

dprsdhunter 12-02-2007 10:39 AM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
Im in agreement with in da woods. Great post

shawnfogelman 12-02-2007 10:40 AM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 

ORIGINAL: bawanajim


ORIGINAL: Hunter Dan7

Bawanajim he made a good shot on him but the arrow dident penatrate. its not his fault so why dont you stop harrasing him. you know how your P.S. thing says long haired freaky need not apply, maby i will put on mine Bawanajim need not Reply.
Reread the part about him passing up a 60 yard broad side shot with a scope sighted shoot gun at the same severly limping buck that he previously wounded.

AT this point and time maybe you could point out justexactly whoms fault this little misadventure might be.
Ok Ladies...Here is my take. For those of you who doen't understand...bawanajim has seen time after time these posts from people stating how they have wounded this BIG beautiful animal and they haven't found him. For guys like Jim, myself and others on this site, we take pride and put forth a large amount of time and effort in making sure that all of our equipment is working properly to ensure a clean, ethical and quick kill on these animals that we hold so dear to our hearts. Remember, we are passionate about this... With that said, I'm not defending bawanajim, I can relate to his frustrations though. Although a bit harsh, he does mean well. As another guy put it..."Poop happens" as we all know. ILL Buck Hunter...at 60 yards in the evening hours with a scoped shotgun... You should have put him out of his misery and collected your wounded deer. you have friends that would have helped you retreive that buck in the late night hours. And worse case scenerio...you wait till morning to track him down. I'm not sure if you practiced with these "New" broadheads before hunting with them, but anytime you change even the slightest thing on your set up. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU TRY IT BEFORE HUNTING WITH IT. Remember, if it's not broke...Don't fix it. Good luck on getting another shot at your buck. And good luck the rest of the year.

dprsdhunter 12-02-2007 10:47 AM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
Maybe so --but he doesnt have to be a jerk

bawanajim 12-02-2007 10:57 AM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 

ORIGINAL: dprsdhunter

Maybe so --but he doesnt have to be a jerk
But it comes so easily to me.;);)

dprsdhunter 12-02-2007 11:01 AM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
....and once again

Planter 12-02-2007 04:52 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
Some guys are beyond reproach due to their hunting prowess. They have never made a bad shot and all kills are quick and clean.

Should be a poll on how many guys have made a bad or questionable shot and not recovered the beast. If you have not you will or you spend far much time watching TV and are not living in the real world. Your best bet is to never admit to a questionable shot regardless of your intentions cause someone is gonna be all over you even if they know absolutly nothing about what might have went wrong. Good luck on the next one!!

Scott/IL 12-02-2007 06:20 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
Let me first say that I had practiced with the new setup and it shot great. The shot was not what went wrong, it was after the arrow hit the deer. However, that is not what I am trying to point out in this thread.

Second, it was a morning hunt and the closest help I had was 30 minutes away. My dad was hunting too and has no cell phone, so it would have required me driving there hoping to get lucky enough to catch him off the stand and talk him into going to collect my deer. This was something that I simply did not have time to do.

I thought it to better to pass the shot since I had no gaurantee as to when I could return. That morning I set out and allowed me an hour to hunt, and an hour to take care of the deer. I was not going to take any questionable shot that would result in a wounded animal that would need tracking. I had passed my limit of an hour of hunting that morning and did not think it would be right to shoot the animal while not knowing when I would be able to make it back. It played out that I was able to return for that afternoon hunt, but there was no way of me knowing with my schedulethat I was going to be there again.

Question my ethics if you must, as you have your opinions and I have mine. I felt that shooting him at that time under the circumstances was not the proper thing to do.

Best of luck to all

peregordusmc 12-02-2007 06:33 PM

RE: What are this guys chances?
 
And thats what the majority of the people have said. Its what you think is in the best interest. only you know what can be done for you are the one there. Lets just hope the deer doesnt suffer too much and hopefully you get him. If you do post a picture of him up here if you can. Good luck to you.


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