428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
11-29-2007, 02:48 PM
#12
Dominant Buck
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RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
Besides, the resale market isn't so greatfor a "gentlyused" bow with quiksilver stickers and sharpie drawings all over it and dried up deer blood crusted into the limb pockets. LOL
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11-30-2007, 03:23 AM
#14
Join Date: Oct 2007
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RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
i also shoot a mathews drenalin and i love the way it feels in my hand, it might not be the fastest thing on the market but it is comfortable to shoot. besides unless your bow flies at 1100fps(speed of sound) and deer can duck or jump the string. does anyone remember the first bow to break the 300fps mark and what year it was?
11-30-2007, 11:35 AM
#17
Giant Nontypical
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RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
Rockpile: as speed increases (getting closer to the speed of sound), a deer's time window to react shrinks. Below is a chart that outlines the time (at various bow speeds)between a deer hearing the sound of your bow going off, and the actual impact of the arrow.
Just so you can actually see how the speed gains will really help you. I thought it was interesting...
fps 100 150 200 250 300 350 400
yds T I M E
10 .27 .17.12 .09 .07 .06.05
20 .54 .34 .24 .18 .14 .11 .09
30 .81 .51 .36 .27 .21 .17 .14
40 1.08 .68 .48 .36 .28 .23 .18
501.35 .85 .60 .45 .35 .28 .23
60 1.62 1.02 .72 .54 .42 .34 .27
Now, I'd argue that a deer can not possibly jump the string on a 250 fps bow at ten yards. That's about 1/10 of a second. If your bow is shooting 400 fps, in that same timeframe, you can ram an arrow through the the target from 20 yards away.
So you ARE gaining something.
Just so you can actually see how the speed gains will really help you. I thought it was interesting...
fps 100 150 200 250 300 350 400
yds T I M E
10 .27 .17.12 .09 .07 .06.05
20 .54 .34 .24 .18 .14 .11 .09
30 .81 .51 .36 .27 .21 .17 .14
40 1.08 .68 .48 .36 .28 .23 .18
501.35 .85 .60 .45 .35 .28 .23
60 1.62 1.02 .72 .54 .42 .34 .27
Now, I'd argue that a deer can not possibly jump the string on a 250 fps bow at ten yards. That's about 1/10 of a second. If your bow is shooting 400 fps, in that same timeframe, you can ram an arrow through the the target from 20 yards away.
So you ARE gaining something.
11-30-2007, 11:46 AM
#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Jacksonville, IL/ Huntington, WV
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RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
ORIGINAL: quiksilver
Rockpile: as speed increases (getting closer to the speed of sound), a deer's time window to react shrinks. Below is a chart that outlines the time (at various bow speeds)between a deer hearing the sound of your bow going off, and the actual impact of the arrow.
Just so you can actually see how the speed gains will really help you. I thought it was interesting...
fps 100 150 200 250 300 350 400
yds T I M E
10 .27 .17.12 .09 .07 .06.05
20 .54 .34 .24 .18 .14 .11 .09
30 .81 .51 .36 .27 .21 .17 .14
40 1.08 .68 .48 .36 .28 .23 .18
501.35 .85 .60 .45 .35 .28 .23
60 1.62 1.02 .72 .54 .42 .34 .27
Now, I'd argue that a deer can not possibly jump the string on a 250 fps bow at ten yards. That's about 1/10 of a second. If your bow is shooting 400 fps, in that same timeframe, you can ram an arrow through the the target from 20 yards away.
So you ARE gaining something.
Rockpile: as speed increases (getting closer to the speed of sound), a deer's time window to react shrinks. Below is a chart that outlines the time (at various bow speeds)between a deer hearing the sound of your bow going off, and the actual impact of the arrow.
Just so you can actually see how the speed gains will really help you. I thought it was interesting...
fps 100 150 200 250 300 350 400
yds T I M E
10 .27 .17.12 .09 .07 .06.05
20 .54 .34 .24 .18 .14 .11 .09
30 .81 .51 .36 .27 .21 .17 .14
40 1.08 .68 .48 .36 .28 .23 .18
501.35 .85 .60 .45 .35 .28 .23
60 1.62 1.02 .72 .54 .42 .34 .27
Now, I'd argue that a deer can not possibly jump the string on a 250 fps bow at ten yards. That's about 1/10 of a second. If your bow is shooting 400 fps, in that same timeframe, you can ram an arrow through the the target from 20 yards away.
So you ARE gaining something.
11-30-2007, 11:53 AM
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Albany, NY
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RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
ORIGINAL: goherd1111
Good post Fran!!! These meatheads that won't admit that speed gives you an advantage makes me chuckle every time they post.
Good post Fran!!! These meatheads that won't admit that speed gives you an advantage makes me chuckle every time they post.
11-30-2007, 12:01 PM
#20
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Jacksonville, IL/ Huntington, WV
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RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
ORIGINAL: Rick James
How many extra deer has this speed put in your freezer? Just curious.......since I'm a meathead and all. I know I can tell you exactly how many deer a slow 280ish FPS hunting bow has cost me.
ORIGINAL: goherd1111
Good post Fran!!! These meatheads that won't admit that speed gives you an advantage makes me chuckle every time they post.
Good post Fran!!! These meatheads that won't admit that speed gives you an advantage makes me chuckle every time they post.