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Jimimac 11-29-2007 02:44 PM

RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
 
Wow...

GMMAT 11-29-2007 02:48 PM

RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
 

Besides, the resale market isn't so greatfor a "gentlyused" bow with quiksilver stickers and sharpie drawings all over it and dried up deer blood crusted into the limb pockets. LOL

The "HC" don't help, either!

(I KID!);)

Rob/PA Bowyer 11-29-2007 03:29 PM

RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
 

ORIGINAL: gplant

Spooning Specialist,Now thats Funny!!!!!!!:D

rockpile rob 11-30-2007 03:23 AM

RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
 
i also shoot a mathews drenalin and i love the way it feels in my hand, it might not be the fastest thing on the market but it is comfortable to shoot. besides unless your bow flies at 1100fps(speed of sound) and deer can duck or jump the string. does anyone remember the first bow to break the 300fps mark and what year it was?

Jimimac 11-30-2007 03:43 AM

RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
 
I remember when I bought my first top of the line Hoyt back in the 80's. It would launch arrows at a blistering fast 210 FPS.:)

Bullet Hole Bailey 11-30-2007 09:03 AM

RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
 
wow....thats dang fast!

quiksilver 11-30-2007 11:35 AM

RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
 
Rockpile: as speed increases (getting closer to the speed of sound), a deer's time window to react shrinks. Below is a chart that outlines the time (at various bow speeds)between a deer hearing the sound of your bow going off, and the actual impact of the arrow.

Just so you can actually see how the speed gains will really help you. I thought it was interesting...

fps 100 150 200 250 300 350 400
yds T I M E

10 .27 .17.12 .09 .07 .06.05
20 .54 .34 .24 .18 .14 .11 .09
30 .81 .51 .36 .27 .21 .17 .14
40 1.08 .68 .48 .36 .28 .23 .18
501.35 .85 .60 .45 .35 .28 .23
60 1.62 1.02 .72 .54 .42 .34 .27

Now, I'd argue that a deer can not possibly jump the string on a 250 fps bow at ten yards. That's about 1/10 of a second. If your bow is shooting 400 fps, in that same timeframe, you can ram an arrow through the the target from 20 yards away.

So you ARE gaining something.


goherd1111 11-30-2007 11:46 AM

RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
 

ORIGINAL: quiksilver

Rockpile: as speed increases (getting closer to the speed of sound), a deer's time window to react shrinks. Below is a chart that outlines the time (at various bow speeds)between a deer hearing the sound of your bow going off, and the actual impact of the arrow.

Just so you can actually see how the speed gains will really help you. I thought it was interesting...

fps 100 150 200 250 300 350 400
yds T I M E

10 .27 .17.12 .09 .07 .06.05
20 .54 .34 .24 .18 .14 .11 .09
30 .81 .51 .36 .27 .21 .17 .14
40 1.08 .68 .48 .36 .28 .23 .18
501.35 .85 .60 .45 .35 .28 .23
60 1.62 1.02 .72 .54 .42 .34 .27

Now, I'd argue that a deer can not possibly jump the string on a 250 fps bow at ten yards. That's about 1/10 of a second. If your bow is shooting 400 fps, in that same timeframe, you can ram an arrow through the the target from 20 yards away.

So you ARE gaining something.
Good post Fran!!! These meatheads that won't admit that speed gives you an advantage makes me chuckle every time they post.

Rick James 11-30-2007 11:53 AM

RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
 

ORIGINAL: goherd1111


Good post Fran!!! These meatheads that won't admit that speed gives you an advantage makes me chuckle every time they post.
How many extra deer has this speed put in your freezer? Just curious.......since I'm a meathead and all. I know I can tell you exactly how many deer a slow 280ish FPS hunting bow has cost me. ;)

goherd1111 11-30-2007 12:01 PM

RE: 428 fps? New HCA Speed Force
 

ORIGINAL: Rick James


ORIGINAL: goherd1111


Good post Fran!!! These meatheads that won't admit that speed gives you an advantage makes me chuckle every time they post.
How many extra deer has this speed put in your freezer? Just curious.......since I'm a meathead and all. I know I can tell you exactly how many deer a slow 280ish FPS hunting bow has cost me. ;)
I don't shoot a bow that fast. Never have...So it really hasn't put any extra meat in "my" freezer. However, it's an undeniable fact....the less time it takes the arrow to get to it's target, the less time the target has to react. Why is this so hard for people to understand. How can it not be an advantage. Maybe not much of one, but it definitely can't hurt.


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