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solobowhunter 11-05-2007 08:26 AM

Wait or Get in?
 
Should you wait until you can see before walking to your stand in case you see a deer before you spook it or get in before light to let the woods settle down?

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GR8atta2d 11-05-2007 09:00 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
If you know where you are going (tree-wise) absolutely get in under the cover of darkness. If it's an area where you're unsure of the tree. I get in just prior to light, find a tree as predawn hits, and get up and settled as quick as possible.

Picking a tree in the dark is a gamble that may require resetting..so I don't do that if it's a newer area.

GMMAT 11-05-2007 09:12 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
I go in a LOT earlier than most. I bump less deer this way, plus I sleep like a CHAMP in my climber.

GR8atta2d 11-05-2007 09:15 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I go in a LOT earlier than most. I bump less deer this way, plus I sleep like a CHAMP in my climber.
And due to location you don't battle the bone chilling cold that most of us do.. Sitting 2 hours in the dark at 50 degrees is a little easier to take than 2 hours at 27 degrees (Saturday) or less.

buckhunter14 11-05-2007 09:15 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
Get in under darkness.. hands down!!!

GMMAT 11-05-2007 09:26 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
Fair enough, GR8.....but a search will show I got into my stand at 3:45 last year when I took my 8 pointer that's on my wall, now. I recall the temp being 14 deg., that morning;).

Here's the story....


I'd have to say taking my best buck on the second to last Saturday of the season. Lisa and I had gone out to my Co.'s Christmas party the night before.......then met some friends out for a drink. We came home.....settled into the hot tub for a bit.....then I had a decision to make. Either go to bed......and risk not getting up (It would have been easy to stay in the bed ;))......or stay awake and go hunting. I took a shower.......and went hunting. When I left the house.....it was 14 degrees.

I got in my tree a good 3 hours before first light. I napped a bit.....but it was the "coolest" feeling in the world being up there and being warm. I watched a few deer file through (seeking a doe to take.....but not getting a clean shot at any I saw)....until I saw the one I took. He offered a shot (FINALLY!) after teasing me by chasing a doe my way, twice. I figured it at 27yds or so......but later walked it off at 33. Either way.....it worked out, fine.


Gundeck 11-05-2007 09:36 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
I like to get in early and settle before the sun comes. GR8, I am a little more north than you and I spent an hour and a half in my blind before first light Saturday. All I can say is LAYERS. That, and good boots and socks. Of course, the blind does take most of the wind out of it, but we had none to speak of Saturday. Maybe years of standing watch in freezing cold temps for four or six hours at a shot have helped.

GR8atta2d 11-05-2007 09:45 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
KUDOS GMMAT..I'm all for getting in an hour or so before light.. If you see me in my stand at 3:45am. I either have the next "hole on the horn" patterned or I've gone plum loco..!



GMMAT 11-05-2007 09:50 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
"Plum Loco" probably fits.

I don't make a habit of THAT kind of thing....but I'll be on stand in the morning no later than 5:00. I've just learned through trial and error that I bump WAY less deer the earlier I arrive. I'm hunting a staging area that is really hot right about now.....so I do this out of necessity.

NY/Al 11-05-2007 09:51 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

"Plum Loco" probably fits.

I don't make a habit of THAT kind of thing....but I'll be on stand in the morning no later than 5:00. I've just learned through trial and error that I bump WAY less deer the earlier I arrive. I'm hunting a staging area that is really hot right about now.....so I do this out of necessity.
Are you taking daylight savings into account here as well??;)

GMMAT 11-05-2007 09:55 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
Yeah. I "think" I'll have shooting light about 6:20, tomorrow....so 5:00 isn't "that" early. I think sunrise is about 6:50-ish.

Kojak248 11-05-2007 09:55 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 

ORIGINAL: solobowhunter

Should you wait until you can see before walking to your stand in case you see a deer before you spook it or get in before light to let the woods settle down?
Get in before it gets light. You'll bump less deer plusyou'll be ready whenthey start moving.

mohunter82 11-05-2007 10:01 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
difinitely before light. i like at an absolute minimum an hour early. even if i jump one in the dark they settle down alot quicker. on average i like to get there an hour and a half before i can see to shoot. lets everything settle down including me. if you wait till light you could take the chance of not being ready when he comes in.

Plus One 11-05-2007 10:54 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
I get in early, I like to give it about an hour for them to settle down and forget me before it starts getting light. I got into that habit when I huntedon a military baseand there was only one other guy who was in the same area, but he came in just after first light.

I said to myself that I could probably sneak in early and let him push deer to me, worked like a charm and I've done it ever since out of habit.

Ken

kevin1 11-05-2007 10:58 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
I creep in as soon as it's light enough to see the ground, flashlights just tip them off, even red lenses. Most deer have gone to their bedding area well before sunrise, so the Dawn Patrol is mostly the slackers and dumb ones except for rutting bucks.

madvilledoc 11-05-2007 11:06 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
It all depends on where I'm hunting and what time I expect deer to be there. That said, most of the time I go in at least 30-40 minutes before daylight. If my game camera show deer to be there frequently before daylight, I'll wait until first light and sneak in. I'll observe the area from a distance to see if any deer are there and then act accordingly.

waiting_for_a_gift 11-05-2007 11:08 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
I agree with most here in principle, but I think anythingmore than30 - 45 minutes before shooting light is going overboard. It is a really good hunting strategy to get into your stand well before daylight, but only if you can accomplish that without too much stress on yourself and without too much disturbance of your hunting area. I agree with several that in a big woods situation, going in that early is really hard. If you have to travel cross country more than a couple hundred yards off a road or trail, it is very dicey. It can be especially bad if the sky is heavily overcast, and / or if the leaves are still on the trees.

Human beings are basically diurnal animals. That means we function primarily in daylight. We are out of our element when traveling through the woods in the dark. I just hate stumbling through the woods making all that commotion at that time of day. Maybe I'm stupid, but I was never a fan of using a flashlight to go in the morning. Choose a location that is reasonably easy to get to, and allow plenty of time. Leave your car or house maybe 90 minutes before shooting light,walk really slow, don't be in a big hurry to get there and set up. Allow your eyes to adjust to the dark. Your priority should be a smooth entry and setup, minimal noise and disturbance.

GMMAT 11-05-2007 11:47 AM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
The amount of activity I heard Saturday morning before shooting light only confirms why I go in as early as I do. If I'd waited....I'd have ruined ALL of that. Those deer weren't there when I went in. If they had been....I'd have bumped them.

I have never heard so many deer around me.....as I did before daylight on Saturday. I am hunting a staging area that I have to get into early. If I had to wait til first light to get in there.......I'd stay home rather than risk all the deer seeing me.

My opinion is....(and I have nothing to base this on, factually)....a deer don't know what in the world we are in the dark. We could easily be another deer.....a coyote....a cow or a sasquatch as far as they're concerned. In the daylight.....there is little doubt. I'll take my chances in the cover of darkness.

We each have to assess our own unique situations....even differing situations in separate woodlots. I have places I could wait 'til after light to go into. I know where they're staging.

GR8atta2d 11-05-2007 12:09 PM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
As a side note to all this.. I always use a flashlight going in and coming out in the dark. It's less for me..I'm comfortable moving in the dark and if you allow your eyes to become a custom to the the available light you can see very well in the darkness.

I use a light for the rest of you guys..and the new guy who sees the horizontal line of my bow as a deers back in conditions when he shouldn't even be considerring a shot! I use my light because the thought of scaring a deer concerns me, a hell of a lot less, than the thought of being on the business end of someone elses broadhead.

It's like the guy on the motorcycle who wears a helmet, not because he doubts his skills..he just doesn't trust the "other" drivers.

Dr Andy 11-05-2007 01:07 PM

RE: Wait or Get in?
 
half hour or so before shooting light.


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