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Rhody Hunter 10-23-2007 01:41 PM

scent lock clothes in the store
 
Am i the only one who thinks it is wierd that they sell these scent blocking clothes in the store right on the shelf . There
absorbing all the smells and touching of dirty hands that the store offers. when you buy activated charcoal in a resperator or for fish tanks it is sealed ready for use.I would think that what little carbon that is in the clothes is saturated with what ever by the time you buy it.Why wouldn't they sell it in sealed bags?

txjourneyman 10-23-2007 01:43 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
Because it doesn't REALLY matter?

mcouey 10-23-2007 01:47 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 

Why wouldn't they sell it in sealed bags?
I suspect that would tip some folks off to the fact that it won't work forever, and perhaps not very long at all. Suddenly that price seems a lot steeper.

cooter144 10-23-2007 01:50 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
I wore a scent lok suit for many years and I don't believe the technology really works

I seemed like deerwould wind me just as often if not more

I do use scent killing type soaps for clothing and showers

HNI Jim 10-23-2007 01:56 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
well even tho scent lok got sued people still going to buy it. LOL

Buy this product that is not effective at stoping non replicated human odors.

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HNI Jim 10-23-2007 02:07 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
hmm i didnt know that dryers got to the needed 400 degrees to reactivate carbon. Hmm i must be living in the past.

Rhody Hunter 10-23-2007 02:11 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 

ORIGINAL: DropTine249

My Scent Lok base layers definetly work. I washed them on a setting for over an hour and then dried them for 80mins. Heat reactivates them. Also, I wash them after everytime I use them. They are supossed to last for 30-40hours of normal hunting activities, whatever that means, spot and stalk would be different from stand hunting, anyway, I wash them and dry them for 80mins and then store them in a Tinks abg so that they dont absorb odors. EVERYTIME I WEAR THEM. Washing has NO affect on the carbon, so its all good.
30 -40 hours thats it . that means that they are inaffective after a few hunts. the heat of a dryer isn't hot enough to reactivate them

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SD_Gobbler 10-23-2007 02:19 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
You are definately not the only one who wonders about this. I thought this the first time I saw scentlok stuff just sitting on the shelf. Im not personally a big believer in it, I just figure if I use enough of the scent remover sprays Ill be fine, its worked so far

Justin 10-23-2007 02:24 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
Just a few quick points:

1. Washing Scent-Lok garments does have an effect on their lifespan, and they should be washed sparingly. Every time you wash them, carbon is removed from the fabric. Most people can get away with 2-3 washings tops per year, if they maintain them properly. Don't wear them in your truck, in your house, at work, etc. And don't wear them when you're dragging out your deer, gutting your deer, etc. This will help maintain their effectiveness and longevity.

2. The garments are meant to be worn for 30-40 hours under normal hunting conditions before being reactivated in the dryer. If you take care of them as I mentioned above, you don't need to wash them.

3. Scent-Lok says that a suit will last 3-4 years under normal hunting conditions with proper care.

That's all for now.

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burniegoeasily 10-23-2007 02:30 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 

ORIGINAL: txjourneyman

Because it doesn't REALLY matter?
I agree. Ive got buddies who spend$100son scent loc,and have less success than I. They get a false sense of security and dont realize that most of ourstink comes from our mouth. Play the wind, and save the money.

statjunk 10-23-2007 02:40 PM

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Scent lok has a replacement gaurentee I believe. I wonder if they'd let you return the suit after cutting it open and exposing the fact that there's hardly any carbon in the suit to begin with. My suit tore open in season one and the amount of carbon in the suit looked like a slighly spinkled cup cake.

I bet a sprinkle cup cake would work better than scent lok or blocker.

All for cup cake cover scents say I.

Tom

txjourneyman 10-23-2007 02:41 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
Aye!

dukemichaels 10-23-2007 02:42 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
Ahhh.. the great scent lok debate. Does it work? Doesn't it work? Is their life after death? Will the world end? What ever happened to Scott Baio?

I will tell you this and it is honest god's truth. I have had no less than 20 deer downwind of me over the past 8 weeks while hunting. I am as ANAL as it gets when hunting and scent control. (I do use scent-lok, baselayers, dead down wind, gum-o-flage etc.) Not one deer has spooked. A couple have stopped for a brief moment to smell the air and that is all. One of those include a 145" buck that was DIRECTLY downwind of 1 hunter, 1 cameraman, and lots of equipment.

As a matter of fact the last deer who even MILDLY got nervous (while I was hunting) and was also completely downwind is the buck you see below...



Justin 10-23-2007 02:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: DropTine249

Also, Scent Lok was rejected by the U.S. Patent Office
Just about every new product is rejected by the patent office at least once before their patent is granted. So how can you use the fact that their first patent was rejected in an argument when subsequent patents were approved?

Having a patent rejected has very little to do with your product, and a lot to do with the wording of your application.

Also, the amount of success a particular individual has or doesn't have has a lot more to do with where they hunt, how they hunt, and about a million other factors besides whether or not they use Scent-Lok. A guy can wear as much Scent-Lok as he wants but if he's hunting in the wrong spot at the wrong time on a farm that doesn't hold monster bucks, chances are he's not going to kill one. And likewise, you can be the stinkiest person in the world and if you're on a great farm with big deer and one walks upwind of you, you're going to kill him Scent-Lok or not.






Germ 10-23-2007 02:50 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 

ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily


ORIGINAL: txjourneyman

Because it doesn't REALLY matter?
I agree. Ive got buddies who spend$100son scent loc,and have less success than I. They get a false sense of security and dont realize that most of ourstink comes from our mouth. Play the wind, and save the money.
Two types hunters buy scentLok

1.AHunter looking for every advantage he can

2.AHunter looking to help cover up his poor hunting methods

To say it does not work for some, and does for others is pointless. More about hunter than anything.
I know guys who buy the best and fastest bows and still miss, and then I know guys who shoot the slowest most beat up bows I have ever seen and never miss;)

You know I watch a realtree comercial this weekend, Bill said I would vanish.I put some on, and to my suprise, I was still visble to my wife:eek:


statjunk 10-23-2007 02:52 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
Dukemichaels,

Cut your suit open and see for yourself. If you can sew then this shouldn't be that big of deal.

All you proved by your story and pic is that you don't stink to a deer (ie scent control)or that the wind pattern is most of the time in your favor. You're doing lots of things right is most likely the best answer to why you have sucess.

I sleep in an old mildewy trailer and wear my hunting clothes even to bed some nights and my buddies smoke and I've had deer right under me with no clue on multiple occaisions. I've also had them blow and bolt too.

Tom

burniegoeasily 10-23-2007 02:54 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 

ORIGINAL: dukemichaels

Ahhh.. the great scent lok debate. Does it work? Doesn't it work? Is their life after death? Will the world end? What ever happened to Scott Baio?

I will tell you this and it is honest god's truth. I have had no less than 20 deer downwind of me over the past 8 weeks while hunting. I am as ANAL as it gets when hunting and scent control. (I do use scent-lok, baselayers, dead down wind, gum-o-flage etc.) Not one deer has spooked. A couple have stopped for a brief moment to smell the air and that is all. One of those include a 145" buck that was DIRECTLY downwind of 1 hunter, 1 cameraman, and lots of equipment.

As a matter of fact the last deer who even MILDLY got nervous (while I was hunting) and was also completely downwind is the buck you see below...



Now for the $100 question, what was the conditions? Up draft, I would suspect? Ive been stinky as all get out, and had lots of deer down wind while I work. It was all in the fact the wind was rising, or blowing over the deer.

Germ 10-23-2007 02:56 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
Tom

Don't takes this the wrong way, but having a MI 1.5 year deer as your test is not very good one.

I have walk right up to them, I have thrown my quiver at them in NE LP to get them to leave. Start knocking down mature deer on year to year bases with a bow with your tactics and then I will listen.

Which is why burniegoealily is a guy I respect and listin to about products and tactics.

We are hunting two differnet animals, nothing wrong with that at all.

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burniegoeasily 10-23-2007 02:59 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 

ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily


ORIGINAL: txjourneyman

Because it doesn't REALLY matter?
I agree. Ive got buddies who spend$100son scent loc,and have less success than I. They get a false sense of security and dont realize that most of ourstink comes from our mouth. Play the wind, and save the money.
Two types hunters buy scentLok

1.AHunter looking for every advantage he can

2.AHunter looking to help cover up his poor hunting methods

To say it does not work for some, and does for others is pointless. More about hunter than anything.
I know guys who buy the best and fastest bows and still miss, and then I know guys who shoot the slowest most beat up bows I have ever seen and never miss;)

You know I watch a realtree comercial this weekend, Bill said I would vanish.I put some on, and to my suprise, I was still visble to my wife:eek:

Very true. Ive seen this very same debate over mechanicals vs fixed heads.

To each his own. If it helps, and you are a good hunter, great. I have found little use for them, but if others like them, no problem. Im a fond believe in the notion, "hunt the way you want. Its no bodies buisness. If it makes you happy and secure, thats all that is important". Im just putting forth my oppinion, nothing more. What is my oppinion worth? Well if you take my oppinion and 50 cents, you can get a cup of coffee. Not at Starbucks though.:D

cooter144 10-23-2007 02:59 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
I find it funny watchingsome huntingshows likedrury outdoors (they endorse scentblocker) and hear them say things like this while hunting "if that buck turns theother way he will wind us for sure".

Wait a second...I thought you didn't have to worry about getting winded if you are wearing a carbon suit! They say forget the wind;)

I think a lot of times when people who make claims of deer not winding them even though the animal was downwind of them it may be due to other reasons than carbon suits.Why do I think this? Because thesame thing happens to people who are NOT wearing carbon suits at times

For instance when hunting in the morning while the sun is risingthermal currents can carry your scent over a deer

burniegoeasily 10-23-2007 03:01 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 

ORIGINAL: Germ

Tom

Don't takes this the wrong way, but having a MI 1.5 year deer as your test is not very good one.

I have walk right up to them, I have thrown my quiver at them in NE LP to get them to leave. Start knocking down mature deer on year to year bases with a bow with your tactics and then I will listen.

Which is why burniegoealily is a guy I respect and listin to about products and tactics.

We are hunting two differnet animals, nothing wrong with that at all.
Awwww, gorsh, Thanks. That made me feel good.;)

Scott/IL 10-23-2007 03:02 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
IMO this stuff works. It's not the cureto all scentcontrolhowever.I've always been real careful with my clothes and taking scent free showers before every hunt.

I can honestly say that I have NEVER had ONE deer wind me in the 2 years I have been wearing Scent Blocker.

So far this year I have experimented with wearing it on some hunts and not on others. One morning without Scent Blocker I had 4 deer come in downwind and bust me..the next day same stand, same preperation, just with my Scent suit on and different results.

I always make sure everything I wear has been washed properly and sprayed down with Scent Killer, I wear rubber boots, and only wear my last layer while driving my truck to my hunting spot. I use Scent Blocker as another tool in my arsenal, and not as the answer to all scent stopping problems.

Germ 10-23-2007 03:03 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 

ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily


ORIGINAL: Germ

Tom

Don't takes this the wrong way, but having a MI 1.5 year deer as your test is not very good one.

I have walk right up to them, I have thrown my quiver at them in NE LP to get them to leave. Start knocking down mature deer on year to year bases with a bow with your tactics and then I will listen.

Which is why burniegoealily is a guy I respect and listin to about products and tactics.

We are hunting two differnet animals, nothing wrong with that at all.
Awwww, gorsh, Thanks. That made me feel good.;)
Well don't let it go to your head:D Still p!ssed about shaving a perfectly good head of hair:D

Scott/IL 10-23-2007 03:07 PM

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Also, if I remember correctly there were a suggestion to wash the Scent Blocker outfit after I bought it and to leave it to dry outside. I could be wrong, but I thought that is what I had to do.

dukemichaels 10-23-2007 03:09 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
I love everyone on this site..!!!

And as soon as I have a bit of free time I will CUT my suit open and sew.. DAMMIT!

I'm not even really sure what that means.... but none the less you have thwarted me and my attempts to prove a point statjunk. Kudos to you sir!

[8D]

lpv77 10-23-2007 03:11 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 

ORIGINAL: Illinois Buck Hunter

I can honestly say that I have NEVER had ONE deer wind me in the 2 years I have been wearing Scent Blocker.


None that you saw atleast!!

nothinspecial 10-23-2007 03:11 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
They say scent lok works...but, to quote a great line from a great movie "they alsosaid that artificial sweetners were safe, they saidthere were WMDs in Iraq, andthey saidAnna Nicole married for love" ~ Mr. Rate from the movie ''Shooter''.


In my opinion scent lok/scent blocker is over priced crap. Way too hyped up. I admit, I too fell into the trap and bought some a few years ago, but I try out alot of different products (such as the Nikon ragefinder retractable tether, which is the loudest thing I've ever heard, and is going back to the store tomorrow, thats a whole new rant). I still wear a pair ofpants with scent lok, simply because they are the most comfortable pair of camo pants I own for cool weather.

This debate will go down in hunter's history just like the great debates of all time (i.e. chevy v. ford, glock v. beretta, and matthews v. every bow on the market)

If it works for you buy it, use it, and good luck. But, always remember when a company tells you to "forget the wind, just hunt'' That's garbage.

dukemichaels 10-23-2007 03:12 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
I am also sorry that I hunt old deer who are not stupid.

I am sorry for this.

Please continue gents... So the 1.5 yr. old got downwind and then what.....:D

shed33 10-23-2007 03:16 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
I have always wondered the same in regards to scent lok clothing hanging openly instores.

-I wear it and everything that I have personally bought has been sealed. I do believe that the fabric traps and holds human odor. Especially in the early stages of use. When I pull it out of the hot dryer, it definately has a smell to it. A very clean smell if you will. I always place it directly in an air tight container. I put it on in the woods and take it off outside.

-I suspect like with rubberboots having a distinct odor that I am positive deer can smell, once any deer or deer begins to assoicate those smells (rubber boots) with danger it begins to work against you... I guess thats why its mostimportant to play the wind and mix it up. With scent lok I would rather smell clean like it does versus like human sweat..but on the other hand I have wondered at times if that smell even becomes a red flag to say a deer that I have hunted for many days in and around his bedding area.. just my thoughts..they really do have incredible noses..once ANY odor that we are using strikes them as dangerous.. the gigs up when they smell that smell again.. again.. if you use the wind there is really no better way.

-to me, these days, scent lok in my arsenal has its place. I agree I am guilty in the past of putting TOO MUCH stock in it, sprays etc.... Today I look at is as added help or aiding how much residual scent I leave in an area versus how much I would have left without it.. I do know this. Deer track and pattern us as hunters and they do a lot of that snooping around after dark, in and around our stands and set ups... This is when they often learn to skirt us, its not always in the daylight. I then feel its important to minimize as much human odor as possible .....OR get a good rain, which is probably best for residual odor..

Anyway.. I will keep wearing it and I do feel that coupled with a very strict cleasning routine and spraying down that we can minimize human odor to the point that many deer will tolerate it.. still at times.. some deer, especially old bucks and old does tolerate very very little..

peace

Scott/IL 10-23-2007 03:18 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 

ORIGINAL: lpv77


ORIGINAL: Illinois Buck Hunter

I can honestly say that I have NEVER had ONE deer wind me in the 2 years I have been wearing Scent Blocker.

None that you saw atleast!!
A very good point, but I can come up with a pretty good idea of how this stuff works for me when the deer are within eyesight. I do about 25% of my hunting from blinds that I make before afternoon hunts. When I've had does and bucks 10 yards from me downwind while sitting on the ground, I'm not going to argue with the effectiveness of this product.

atlasman 10-23-2007 03:22 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 

ORIGINAL: Germ

Tom

Don't takes this the wrong way, but having a MI 1.5 year deer as your test is not very good one.

I have walk right up to them, I have thrown my quiver at them in NE LP to get them to leave. Start knocking down mature deer on year to year bases with a bow with your tactics and then I will listen.

Which is why burniegoealily is a guy I respect and listin to about products and tactics.

We are hunting two differnet animals, nothing wrong with that at all.



The first sign of desperation when trying to prove something you know you can't.

dukemichaels 10-23-2007 03:26 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 
the car... debbie.. the car.... debbie....

atlasman 10-23-2007 03:28 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 

ORIGINAL: dukemichaels

I am also sorry that I hunt old deer who are not stupid.

I am sorry for this.

Please continue gents... So the 1.5 yr. old got downwind and then what.....:D

So EVERY one of those 20 deer you used as an example of your magic suit working were old, wise, crafty, mature, ghosts of the woods??

Please continue............:eek:

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Germ 10-23-2007 03:29 PM

RE: scent lock clothes in the store
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: Germ

Tom

Don't takes this the wrong way, but having a MI 1.5 year deer as your test is not very good one.

I have walk right up to them, I have thrown my quiver at them in NE LP to get them to leave. Start knocking down mature deer on year to year bases with a bow with your tactics and then I will listen.

Which is why burniegoealily is a guy I respect and listin to about products and tactics.

We are hunting two differnet animals, nothing wrong with that at all.



The first sign of desperation when trying to prove something you know you can't.
Ummm Atlas I was not wearing anything when I did this, LOL Almost 20 years ago:eek: When I hunted anything, which is way differnet than I hunt today.

Today I am scentLok free;), just get tired of listenting to the same few with their tired message;)

If you read my first post, I stated it has more to do with the hunter;) For example I bet you can kill a deer in a pink bunny suit;)

MOTOWNHONKEY 10-23-2007 03:32 PM

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Yea, continue Dukie:D


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